On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:30:30 +0200, Christopher Roy Bratusek wrote: > Teika suggested rename-window to rewrite _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME rather > than _NET_WM_NAME. But: this does have no effect here.
Theory first: Ewmh specifies that _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME is set by the WM if the WM "changes" a window's name, like "xterm <1>". On the other hand, WM_NAME and _NET_WM_NAME are set by clients, not WMs, but rename-window breaks this. It is implied pagers should respect _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME over WM_NAME / _NET_WM_NAME. (Ewmh says "allowing pager to display...") Your observation shows that GNOME / KDE / ... pagers (you mean trayers?) don't follow ewmh, i.e., they've got a bug. It's too hackish to check the DE and change the behavior to kill their bug in Sawfish (javascript?). Anyway DE check is not a safe detection of trayers. Sawfish is already breaking ewmh in this respect, too, so simply adding _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME suffices here, as a practical solution. (Maybe better to file a bug to ewmh group. [email protected] still exists. If you like, you can go http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/wm-spec-list ) So please revert 3b72e3. Anyway it can't be included in 1.7.1. A strict solution is more difficult. (I don't enlarge on it now.) Ah, which was ineffective exactly? _NET_WM_VISIBLE_NAME only, or _NET_WM_NAME either? Thank you very much for your work. Teika (Teika kazura)
