I don't think that analogy quite fits :) If the 'grunts' aren't doing
their job, then yes - let's blame them. Or at least help them find
ways to do it better.

-- Michael

[Ed. Let's consider this the end of the thread, please.  Unless someone
wants to say something that is directly relevant to software security,
I'm going to let it drop.  KRvW]

On 4/13/05, Dave Paris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So you blame the grunts in the trenches if you lose the war?  I mean,
> that thinking worked out so well with Vietnam and all...  ;-)
> regards,
> -dsp
> > I couldn't agree more! This is my whole point. Security isn't 'one
> > thing', but it seems the original article [that started this
> > discussion] implied that so that the blame could be spread out.
> >
> > If you actually look at the actual problems you can easily blame the
> > programmers :)

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