> -----Original Message----- > From: Pascal Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Tim Hollebeek; sc-l@securecoding.org > Subject: Re: [SC-L] Coding with errors in mind - a solution? > > On 8/31/06 8:05 PM, "mikeiscool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > His point, I think, is that if you wrap a series of > statements in an > > try/catch block, you might not roll back every statement you needed > > to, or checked appropriate conditions. > > > > For example: > > try { > > openFile(); > > getData(); > > writeToFile(); > > setSomeFlag() > > moveFile(); > > deleteTempThings(); > > } catch(Exception e){ > > ... > > } > > [...] > > Ah, yes, I can see a bad (or under pressure) programmer > lumping together the handling of exceptions that should be > handled separately, or making just one giant try block so > when there's an exception, even if you specify the type > there's still ambiguity as to where it came from and > therefore can't handle it properly. That could be quite a > mess. Thanks. > > >Exceptions simplify the code? I don't think so. They also > don't reduce > >code duplication [per se] you need to add extra functions, > etc, to do > >that. > > They can simplify the code because > -as previously mentioned by Tim, they separate error handling > from normal logic, so the code is easier to read (it is > simpler from a human reader's perspective).
But they only really "separate" the error handling if you have one big try block, and that can make proper diagnosis difficult. For example, in the above case, if you get a FileNotFound exception, did it come from openFile or moveFile? It may be possible to figure that out, but the extra logic will be more than you would have had if you had just checked the return value of the call. > -if an exception is handled several call layers above, you > don't have to copy/translate and relay the error at each > layer, with the attached loss of context and possible > translation mistakes (error #3 in one layer/module may mean > something different in another...). So, there's less > (duplicated) code. But the intervening stack frames have to be (painfully) aware of the fact that they might terminate abruptly. Experience has shown that getting this right is very hard, offsetting the benefits of being able to quickly pop back up to a frame where the error can be handled. > -It is common (and bad, IMO) practice for errors to be > signified to callers by returning an out of range or > different type (or null) value when something else is > semantically expected. This is especially true when there is only one value available for all errors (like zero). GetLastError/errno is a silly substitute for not having another 'out' parameter, justified on the basis that sometimes you don't care what the error was. Except that you should! Exceptions can be useful, but they really aren't what you want for error handling, and are often cause as many problems as they cause. What you really want is for all the (partial) side effects of a function to disappear when it unrolls, but that's hard to do. Even cleanup code is tough to get right due to the fact that (A)(B)(A^-1) != B (can we reboot the universe with that feature disabled? It causes problems all over the place ...) That said, Windows Vista will have transactions for file system/ registry modifications, so perhaps that will make life a bit easier... -Tim _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php
