| Oh, you mean like the calling conventions on the IBM Mainframe where a dump | produces a trace back up the call chain to the calling program(s)? Not to | mention the trace stack kept within the OS itself for problem solving | (including system calls or SVC's as we call them on the mainframe). And | when all else fails, there is the stand alone dump program to dump the whole | system? | | Mainframes have been around for years. It's interesting to see "open | systems" take on mainframe characteristics after all this time.... All these obsolete ideas. Stack tracebacks. Feh!
Years back at Smarts, a company since acquired by the "EMC" you see in my email address, one of the things I added to the system was a set of signal handlers which would print a stack trace. The way to do this was very non-uniform: On Solaris, you had to spawn a standalong program (but you got a stack trace of all threads). On HPUX, there was a function you could call in a system library. On AIX (you'd think IBM, of all vendors, would do better!) and Windows, we had to write this ourselves, with varying degrees of OS support. We also dump - shock! horror! - the values in all the registers. And we (try to) produce a core dump. My experience has been that of crashes in the field, 90% can be fully analyzed based on what we've written to the log file. Of the rest, some percentage - this is harder to estimate because the numbers are lower; - can be fully analyzed using the core dump. The rest basically can't be analyzed without luck and repetition. (I used to say 80-90% for "can be analyzed from core file", but the number is way down now because (a) we've gotten better at getting information into and out of the log files - e.g., we now keep a circular buffer of messages, including those at too low a severity level to be written to the log, and dump that as part of the failure output); (b) the remaining problems are exactly the ones that the current techniques fail to handle - we've fixed the others!) -- Jerry _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php