hi all, my preference is to lead with an Architectural Risk Analysis (and has been since 1997).
gem http://www.cigital.com/~gem On 3/20/09 3:07 PM, "Jim Manico" <j...@manico.net> wrote: This is why I'm not fond if leading with a tool. I prefer to lead with architectural/design analysis and targeted manual review of high risk applications. Jim Manico j...@manico.net On Mar 20, 2009, at 4:06 AM, "Goertzel, Karen [USA]" <goertzel_ka...@bah.com> wrote: Except when they're hardware bugs. :) I think the differentiation is also meaningful in this regard: I can specify software that does non-secure things. I can implement that software 100% correctly. Ipso facto - no software bugs. But the fact remains that the software doesn't validate input because I didn't specify it to validate input, or it doesn't encrypt passwords because I didn't specify it to do so. I built to spec; it just happened to be a stupid spec. So the spec is flawed - but the implemented software conforms to that stupid spec 100%, so by definition it not flawed. It is, however, non-secure. -- Karen Mercedes Goertzel, CISSP Booz Allen Hamilton 703.698.7454 goertzel_ka...@bah.com <mailto:goertzel_ka...@bah.com> -----Original Message----- From: sc-l-boun...@securecoding.org on behalf of Benjamin Tomhave Sent: Thu 19-Mar-09 19:28 To: Secure Code Mailing List Subject: Re: [SC-L] BSIMM: Confessions of a Software Security Alchemist(informIT) Why are we differentiating between "software" and "security" bugs? It seems to me that all bugs are software bugs, ... _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org <mailto:SC-L@securecoding.org> List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l <http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l> List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php <http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php> SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Secure Coding mailing list (SC-L) SC-L@securecoding.org List information, subscriptions, etc - http://krvw.com/mailman/listinfo/sc-l List charter available at - http://www.securecoding.org/list/charter.php SC-L is hosted and moderated by KRvW Associates, LLC (http://www.KRvW.com) as a free, non-commercial service to the software security community. _______________________________________________