Hallo,

Am Montag 03 Dezember 2007 20:28:56 schrieb pgeorges:
> Alexander Wagner a écrit :
> > Good Morning!
> >
> >  > A current open point in scid's features is the import of
> >  > rating lists. Currently Franz Nagl supplies some from time
> >  > to time but as I got him in some discussion his algorithm
> >  > is not yet publishable and involves some manual work. Is
> >  > there a chance to ease this up, maybe by some
> >  > functionality to read in the current ratings from within
> >  > scid and just update the current files from time to time?
> >  > Would be a helpfull feature I think.
> >
> > Concerning this issue I contacted Franz Nagl about his
> > procedure. Here is a (free) translation of his answer to my
> > mail.
> >
> > Till 10/2006 Franz used http://www.anjo.demon.nl as input.
> > This seems no longer available as it is not updated. So he
> > changed procedures and now gets the data directly from the
> > FIDE server and parses the FIDE elo files (e.g.
> > OCT07FRL.TXT).
> >
> > There several problems show up which may be of interest to
> > solve within scid:
> >
> > * Names are not unique
> >
> >     E.g. Botvinnik, Mikhail, IDNr. 2805650
> >
> >     is not the world chapion (Botvinnik, Mikhail USR) but
> >     Botvinnik, Mikhail ISR
> >
> >     Horvath, Tamas gives 5 matches that have to be sorted in.
> >
> >     This problem was solved in Anjos list mentioned above.
> >
> > * Bugs in the FIDE List itself
> >    Franz mentioned that the FIDE-ID is _NOT_ unique. The get
> >    recycled once a player does not show up on the list
> >    anymore. (Obviously they smoked somthing very bad when
> >    inventing this... ;)
> >
> > Franz told me that he'd be willing to help the project as
> > far as his time allows. He thought about building some MySQL
> > database, but here I think that scid should be the database
> > itself
>
> There are many problems here to solve, with some kind of fuzzy logic.
> For example I just noticed some people write
> Kasparov, Garry
> or
> Kasparov, Gary
>
> How to handle all possibilities ?
This is solved in scid with Aliases like:

Kasparov, Garry         #gm  URS/RUS [2851] 1963.??.??
      %ID 4100018
      %Title gm:1980
      %Bio World Champion, 1985-93
      %Bio Non-FIDE (PCA,...) World Champion, 1993-2000
   = Kasparov, Gary
   = Kasparov, Garri
   = Kasparov, Garik
   = Kasparov, Garrik
   = Kasparov, Garry K
      %Elo 1979:?,2545 1980:2595 1981:2625,2630 1982:2640,2675
      %Elo 1983:2690,2690 1984:2710,2715 1985:2715,2700 1986:2720,2740
      %Elo 1987:2735,2740 1988:2750,2760 1989:2775,2775 1990:2800,2800
      %Elo 1991:2800,2770 1992:2780,2790 1993:2805,2805 1994:2805,2805
      %Elo 1995:2805,2795 1996:2775,2785 1997:2795,2820 1998:2825,2815
      %Elo 1999:2812,2851 2000:2851,2849 2001:2849,2827,2838,2838
      %Elo 2002:2838,2838,2838,2838 2003:2847,2830,2830,2830
      %Elo 2004:2831,2817,2817,2813 2005:2804,2812,2812,2812
      %Elo 2006:2812,2812,2812,2812 2007:2812,2812,2812

scid recognice aliases and change them to Kasparov, Garry
The same with married Players like:

Atalik, Ekaterina       #im+wgm RUS/TUR [2414] 1982.??.??
      %ID 4130189
   = Polovnikova, Ekaterina

> Using a Mysql database will not solve anything, as it is just a
> repository. To have things done in Scid is an idea, and  Tcl should be
> efficient enough even with a somewhat important base. I think a 100% Tcl
> solution would ease things. But note also I am quite happy to get Franz
> Nagl files and copy them in Scid distribution.
>
> Pascal
>
>
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