Pascal Georges wrote:

Hi!

>     I do not get how you want to set it up: Scid links to
>     http://www.somehwere.org/scid-binaries/
>     and the list is maintained there? You think probably of a
>     Wiki-like target for this so everybody could hook up links
>     to his individual builds?
> 
>     Or do you think of a page within scid.sf.net/scid-binaries
>     <http://scid.sf.net/scid-binaries>
>     that just contains links off-site, that might be broken some
>     day and just need to be checked from time to time?
> 
> All those solutions are ok for me, as none goes through the SF's release 
> process, which is time consuming.

Ah! Now I get it. You do not want to host rpm, deb, tgz
<whatever> beyond the current formats on the scids site at
SF. Here we perfectly agree. I think that we should add
links to the prebuild binaries though.

What are those building binaries think is the most viable
way to handle the linking?

>      > - be careful when stripping Scid (books, DB, etc...) as it
>      > breaks some features, and I don't like this.
> 
>     Actually, some parts of scid would plainly not allow it to
>     make it into some distributions if it's not removed. I
>     learned that Nalimov-code is a problem, books are sometimes
>     regarded as "unclear" and for that thrown out. Bases
>     similar. For the engines the feedback was: "its better if
>     one can use what is there from other sources and keeps that
>     part to the absolute minimum."
> 
> 
> Nalimov code has been included into Scid for a long time
> and Shane had received authorisation for the inclusion
> into Scid. I agree it is not 100% clear it is GPL, but it
> seems ok for me (see COPYING file).

Distributions have a problem. It was the first response I
got from Peter @debian that it is not compliant with
distribution policy. (Ie. no problem to scid but to the
Linux packagers.)

> Bases were generated by myself, and any license can be
> applied to them, if needed.  Some books were generated by
> myself, and some by others. Generating a book is easy
> (simply use polyglot) and I would find a pity not to
> include at least a sample book with Scid.

I agree. Here, the I was told that one would just prefer a
"scid-data" package separated from the pure binary.

>     I think, the Bases and Books part could only be overcome by
>     a "Scid Referenence Database" (CentriScid was a name for
>     this recently) and a "Scid Reference Opening Book" (call it
>     ScidBook for the time being). Here also another free book
>     could be used e.g.  Harry Schnapps book (if someone has a
>     contact there...)
> 
> HS Book is not free at all.

I know. Some times there was even a stanza about "this is
for arena only".

>     predefined DBs from scids website." Which then initiates a
>     download and install into userspace. (Jose handles
>     opening books that way. One of the few parts that work
>     pretty well in Jose I might add.) If scid e.g. first gets
>     back some structure of the offerings it could be pretty
>     flexible.
> 
> This complicates things a bit. I prefer the simplest and
> laziest solution, where everything is packaged in a
> monolithic mode.

I know that you prefer that. ;)

> But this is just my opinion. A good solution is one that
> works and is garanteed to work for a long time.

Agree. Its also nothing done right now, but I think in that
direction. I can not provide that myself now, but I've some
ideas that require fetch-by-http-code to work well, so it
could be a by-product. Anyway, I've other issues first, and
it's no pressing issue.

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