Alexander Wagner,  niedziela, 20 lipca 2008:

>> I still don't get it why can't we really care about users.
>Michal, you're wrong here. Acutally, I always care about
>users. More that you may notice. ;)
I understood you insist on removing/not implementing features requested by 
users, just because these features can be achieved in power user's way.
I may be wrong, but I was trying to oppose 'doing it developer's way' policy 
too many times.

>> I think that is one of the reasons why Open Source
>> applications so often fail.  Whether we like it or now, it
>> s more important to make it is easy for average user than
>> to make in clean and/or really powerful for advanced
>> users.
>I'd second that. I do not second the though, that any
>application should take care on its own about life, earth
>and everything. Actually, I find this pretty userunfriendly
>as you have to learn everything for every app again and
>again.
I understand your point but the features we discuss are neither really 
complicated nor easy to do the other way.

>> And I find File Finder useful, mostly because Tcl file
>> dialog is so user-unfriendly.
>Well, it takes about half a minute to fill in and then I get
>a pretty unstructured list. Anyway, I do not need to like
>it as I do not need to use it ;)
I think I am lost here.

>> Do you think all the features you don't use should be
>> removed from Scid?
>No.
>I just feel adding Drag&Drop (if this is possible in TCL at
>all) would be much more usefull compared to an not even
>second class file manager.
Why should we only have one of these? As I wrote before, File Finder is just a 
better file browser than a very awkard Tcl one.

>Think about the ability to click on a PGN file from within
>your normal file manager and it fires up in Scid, opens
>there if scid is already running or starts Scid if not. (The
>second part is easily done, the first AFAIK no possible
>now.)
If I remember correctly, there was a script to do both (writtern by Shane 
himself?) I will try to check this.

>I think that the main point to get things easy for the user
>is to integrate with the stuff that the user already uses.
>Instead of building a file manager I'd think it is much more
>usefull to reuse the existing one and integrate with that.
>Thats all.
But, what is your suggestion for a very simple case: user (this means Windows 
user in 95% of cases) wants to delete database. If we add 'Delete database' 
command, we can do it by single menu item+confirmation. Is there any other 
easy way? Is it:
1. Open my Computer or Exporer
2. Find database directory
3. Select appropriate files (how should user know which files are relevant?)
4. Remove them
5. Confirm
I find this not only more difficult, but also more error-prone.

-- 
Michal Rudolf

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