Pascal Georges wrote:

Hi!

 >     + clocks when I play
 >     + messages that my opponent sends me
 >     + big lists that FICS rely on to know who's here and who's playing

This kind of thing is what I call the usual problem with the
docked windows. Probably it's easier to arrange with (an)
undocked (FICS) window(s)?

Anyway, I really like the tabs _within_ the FICS console.
This is IMHO sensible usage of them :)

 >     I am sure I could come up with more suggestions, but
 >     that would be a very big improvement.
 >
 > I don't see any obvious way to achieve this. I am thinking
 > of adding a tab next to the "offers" one to display games
 > list, but this is not trivial without adding an extra
 > dependency (TkTable).

Couln't it just be a mle field like the console? I could
imagine that colouring the background of each second line
already is far enough to get a good layout.

As I've a similar list in CC code, I found it helpful to
mark the game currently "observed" by writing this line in
bold face.

I'd suggest to use a tab though instead of cluttering up the
console instead of cluttering up the console. This seems a
good improvement.

I also think that "relayed games" should probably be a
similar tab. I don't know how this tab-thing is working but
probably one could add a suitable refresh call (tell realy
listgames) to the tabs invocation, and the tab might only
show once this command was triggered? Sorry, I lost my note
about the tell relay listgames response. :( <argh!>

As you asked for additional suggestions:

- As FICS window is scalable (a good thing indeed) probably
   the offer graph could resize with this window? (I usually
   use a console of approximately 80 chars width, as FICS
   output assumes this.)

- Maybe some caption/scales for the axes of the seek graph?
   I admit that I like the graph of eboard which uses some
   colour shades and thin lines to give an idea where a
   certain dot is located, though they should put the tick
   marks outside the graph. And also babas chess uses a
   pretty nice graph which is quite close to your current
   implementation.
   (http://www.babaschess.net/showss.asp?i=soughtgraph)

- In the offers graph, could the game info probably come up
   in a tooltip? Just to get the background coloured and
   avoid overlapping of text and dots.

   Currently, if there're a lot of dots in a small area the
   text is sometimes hardly readable, and occasionally (all
   the time the text shows up to the right below the mouse
   pointer) the mouse pointer covers some of it.

   Alternatively, the games details could also show up in a
   certain area on the screen all the time regardless of the
   dots location one is pointing at.

- Maybe a small caption for the meaning of the markers would
   be helpful. (I described them in the associated help, but
   I think especially a newbe would appreciate it right
   there.)

- I think also a "who" tab might be a good thing as well to
   fascillitate chatting.

- And while I'm at tabs (I really like this concept for this
   dialogue) probably the channels could be sorted into a tab
   each.

And from the "ToDo" I might add that sending a bunch of
userdefined lines after login would be a good thing.

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