I know it's two words, it has become muscle memory for some reason to type redhat instead of Red Hat or maybe because of seeing seeing the domain redhat.com come across my screen alot :) I see your point as in why would Red Hat want to cause users to move from rpm based distros to deb based distros. Maybe I am just overly paranoid
when it comes to the future. I think I will just have to try to let it go and take a leap of faith. Thinking it a bit now don't think CERN and Fermilabs have taken this decision lightly, and have probably thought this through. I'll decide when CentOS8 comes out what I will do for my future systems ;) On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 23:26, David Sommerseth wrote: First of all, it is Red Hat (two words) :) But I don't really understand this Red Hat scepticism. What would Red Hat, even from a commercial standpoint, win by crippling CentOS or it's open source efforts in any way? Yes, what Red Hat does costs money, but they also earn money on exactly what they do. I don't think Red Hat's biggest fear is that CentOS will "overtake" RHEL. I would suspect Red Hat biggest fear is users moving *away* from the RHEL universe, moving to other non-RHEL based distributions, that the mindset changes to be something else than RHEL - because migration from SL/CentOS to RHEL is simpler and smoother than any other distro. I would expect Red Hat to be far more concerned about users moving towards SUSE, Debian or Ubuntu. Nowadays in the container oriented world, even Alpine Linux might be a growing concern. And just because of this, it would be little market gain to "experiment" with CentOS and risk upsetting its users. I've lost count how big Red Hat has grown, but they're at least somewhere in the 12-15k people today. The vast majority here are geeks who embraces open source development. The company markets open source as it's key motivation. Even Jim Whitehurst runs Fedora on his home computers (unless something has changed the last few years). If Red Hat does a bad move, I would expect quite an uproar inside the company as well. Keyword here is: memo-list [0]. And *if* Red Hat messes up CentOS ... what do you think would happen? Red Hat can't shut-off complete access to the source code RHEL/CentOS requires. I would expect a massive part of the CentOS community to pick up where Red Hat dropped the ball. Remember, CentOS has only been part of Red Hat the last 5 years. This has been done before, it can still happen again. CentOS is first of all a downstream Linux distribution, based on RHEL. RHEL is a downstream distribution, based on packages from Fedora. So Red Hat doesn't really need CentOS to be anything like experimental. It already has that playground with Fedora. And IIRC (please correct me if I'm wrong), SL is mostly built from the CentOS source RPM packages. [0] -- kind regard, David Sommerseth
