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________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Yasha Karant <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 1:18 PM To: Mailing list for Scientific Linux users worldwide <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Code bias video, watch it ASAP For those of us one this list who are ACM members, I quote: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Furldefense.proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F-5Fwww.acm.org-5Fcode-2D2Dof-2D2Dethics-2526d-253DDwID-2Dg-2526c-253DgRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA-2526r-253Dgd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-2DP-2DpgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A-2526m-253DrvvKgjCdyxB3pmR8XX9sSUyDJj91jQ8He2RzBGLFsWE-2526s-253DwFYH-5FRV7rQLOGae55WLKa5Ve3lYcqfdera6gdLL3ajU-2526e-253D-26amp-3Bdata-3D04-257C01-257Csteven.z.queen-2540nasa.gov-257Ca17ab3bd8e1741159c6f08d909a08464-257C7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b-257C0-257C0-257C637551407289493580-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C1000-26amp-3Bsdata-3DNmsOqa-252FLPqEGv893Voz5APCahCSgC0q-252FTIJZc1Mrrss-253D-26amp-3Breserved-3D0&d=DwIFAw&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=9vN5yrwyJ43ZZVrBXc3heOGC341KYj6SU6iWv8c9l7w&s=B9eHffkdKCWVfMUYH6B6rLLGCPehok6sjus7c5um2ic&e= A computing professional should... 1.1 Contribute to society and to human well-being, acknowledging that all people are stakeholders in computing. Similar statements exist in the ethics codes of other computing/informatics professional societies. Despite that fact that others have indicated that this, or other societal issues, are inappropriate for this list, and have threatened to unsubscribe, some discussion of this matter is appropriate and correct within the ACM code (and most other codes). This list does not conform to the codes from the former Third Reich, former USSR, present PRC, etc., for which any discussion of societal failings of the in-power control group persons is prohibited and often punishable by the government controlled by the relevant in-power group. On 4/27/21 9:49 AM, Queen, Steven Z. (GSFC-5910) wrote: > I don't think this list is an appropriate place for political > discussions. Hopefully an administrator will intervene. > If this continues, I will unsubscribe. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] > <[email protected]> on behalf of Nico > Kadel-Garcia <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 27, 2021 9:04 AM > *To:* LaToya Anderson <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Andrew C Aitchison <[email protected]>; Keith Lofstrom > <[email protected]>; Mailing list for Scientific Linux users worldwide > <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Code bias video, watch it ASAP > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:24 AM LaToya Anderson > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Data does not remove bias. And one can and should both read the article and >> watch the movie. >> >> STEM Academy Instructor > > Data rather than mere exposition helps prevent bias. How do you refute > or counter unfair bias except with data? > > The movie is, itself, profoundly biased. It didn't explore at all why > a public housing project might benefit from cameras on the door of a > densely populated building with numerous poor, old, or unhealthy > tenants. The movie was an icon of "Critical Theory", portraying the > attempt to use science and engineering for social problems as a plot > against the oppressed. > > I've lived in scary neighborhoods of London. London accepts and > expects a degree of CCTV monitoring that is outrageous to Americans. > Sadly, citizens can't *get* the videos when a crime occurs, and > photographic evidence can be misused against the innocent. Been there, > done that, watched a London parking cop frame the photos they took to > document a parking ticket, really ticked him off when I very obviously > took photos at angles that showed the car was, in fact parked near a > sign that gave permission and curb markings that matched.
