Hi Jack, I am not involved in the decision-making regarding Linux here at Fermilab, so I'm just a community member as well. I think it's good to have options but in my opinion the Rocky Linux effort is better positioned for long term support by the community than AlmaLinux is.
Dave On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 05:54:35PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: > Hi Bonnie, Dave, et. al. > > I am a long time Fedora person and now the community manager of AlmaLinux. > > We certainly understand the quandary you are now in and we deeply value the > work that you and the scientific (both capital S and lower-case) community > do. It is of utmost importance to humanity. Likewise, we can only begin to > image the loop that the CentOS EOL announcement must have caused you. > > We are ready, willing and able to help. We released our x86_64 STABLE a drop > over a month ago and are working on other architectures now. We are also in > the process of opening up our-next generation build system, amongst other > things. > > I extend a hand to the Scientific community-at-large to work together with > you all to build whatever it is that you need. We are even open to offering a > board seat (yes despite what FUD people try and spread, we are > community-governed) to someone from fermilab/cern (or some other > representative) to ensure that the relevant voices are heard and acted upon. > > I'm reaching out to you out of my own volition, because I respect you and the > work you do and its vital impact in the humanity both present and future. > > Seriously, anything we can do for you guys, any way we can help in order to > promote and foster scientific research, we stand at the fore ready to get it > done. > > I am sure there may be questions and I would be glad to answer anything > anyone would like to know more about. > > Thanks > Jack > > > On May 3, 2021, at 07:25, Bonnie King <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Konstantin, > > > > There hasn't been any official statement. On the Fermilab side we are > > holding discussions and gathering feedback from experiments and other > > collaborators. > > > > We are working on it and will make an announcement soon. > > > > Bonnie King > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: [email protected] > > <[email protected]> on behalf of Konstantin > > Olchanski <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:27 AM > > To: Dave Dykstra > > Cc: scientific-linux-users > > Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation? > > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:35:02PM +0000, Dave Dykstra wrote: > >> Both Fermilab and CERN have stated that they plan to use CentOS 8 stream > >> for now (or Scientific Linux 7 or CentOS 7) and will evaluate later > >> whether or not to switch to one of the clones. > > > > Interesting. I do not see any information about this and I believe > > I receive both internal and external official communications from CERN. > > > > Do you know who and when made this "centos stream" statement? > > > > K.O. > > > > > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:35:18AM -0700, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > >>> Any news or updates on the status of CERN Linux? > >>> > >>> Per https://linux.web.cern.ch/centos8/ CERN users are strongly encouraged > >>> to use CentOS-8 while the same page states that support for CentOS-8 will > >>> end at the end of this year. Update is promised "during Q1 2021", today > >>> we are 1/3 into Q2 2021, and there is no new information. > >>> > >>> The CentOS forums are graveyard quiet. (censored?) > >>> > >>> Any information from the FermiLab side of things? Any information from > >>> the SL side > >>> of things? Any rumours? > >>> > >>> I opened a support ticket with CERN about this, let's see what they say. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Konstantin Olchanski > >>> Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! > >>> Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca > >>> Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada > > > > -- > > Konstantin Olchanski > > Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! > > Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca > > Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
