Dave, Thanks for your response. My message was going to everyone on the list, not necessarily just the decision makers. To me/us it’s important to involve the whole community not just any specific decision makers.
Thanks for your feedback. If you don’t mind, can you just give me more insight/feedback as to why you think that Rocky is better positioned? I’m curious to hear your opinion. Thanks, Jack > On May 4, 2021, at 11:30, Dave Dykstra <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Jack, > > I am not involved in the decision-making regarding Linux here at > Fermilab, so I'm just a community member as well. I think it's good > to have options but in my opinion the Rocky Linux effort is better > positioned for long term support by the community than AlmaLinux is. > > Dave > > On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 05:54:35PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote: >> Hi Bonnie, Dave, et. al. >> >> I am a long time Fedora person and now the community manager of AlmaLinux. >> >> We certainly understand the quandary you are now in and we deeply value the >> work that you and the scientific (both capital S and lower-case) community >> do. It is of utmost importance to humanity. Likewise, we can only begin to >> image the loop that the CentOS EOL announcement must have caused you. >> >> We are ready, willing and able to help. We released our x86_64 STABLE a drop >> over a month ago and are working on other architectures now. We are also in >> the process of opening up our-next generation build system, amongst other >> things. >> >> I extend a hand to the Scientific community-at-large to work together with >> you all to build whatever it is that you need. We are even open to offering >> a board seat (yes despite what FUD people try and spread, we are >> community-governed) to someone from fermilab/cern (or some other >> representative) to ensure that the relevant voices are heard and acted upon. >> >> I'm reaching out to you out of my own volition, because I respect you and >> the work you do and its vital impact in the humanity both present and future. >> >> Seriously, anything we can do for you guys, any way we can help in order to >> promote and foster scientific research, we stand at the fore ready to get it >> done. >> >> I am sure there may be questions and I would be glad to answer anything >> anyone would like to know more about. >> >> Thanks >> Jack >> >>> On May 3, 2021, at 07:25, Bonnie King <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Konstantin, >>> >>> There hasn't been any official statement. On the Fermilab side we are >>> holding discussions and gathering feedback from experiments and other >>> collaborators. >>> >>> We are working on it and will make an announcement soon. >>> >>> Bonnie King >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: [email protected] >>> <[email protected]> on behalf of Konstantin >>> Olchanski <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:27 AM >>> To: Dave Dykstra >>> Cc: scientific-linux-users >>> Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation? >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:35:02PM +0000, Dave Dykstra wrote: >>>> Both Fermilab and CERN have stated that they plan to use CentOS 8 stream >>>> for now (or Scientific Linux 7 or CentOS 7) and will evaluate later >>>> whether or not to switch to one of the clones. >>> >>> Interesting. I do not see any information about this and I believe >>> I receive both internal and external official communications from CERN. >>> >>> Do you know who and when made this "centos stream" statement? >>> >>> K.O. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:35:18AM -0700, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: >>>>> Any news or updates on the status of CERN Linux? >>>>> >>>>> Per https://linux.web.cern.ch/centos8/ CERN users are strongly encouraged >>>>> to use CentOS-8 while the same page states that support for CentOS-8 will >>>>> end at the end of this year. Update is promised "during Q1 2021", today >>>>> we are 1/3 into Q2 2021, and there is no new information. >>>>> >>>>> The CentOS forums are graveyard quiet. (censored?) >>>>> >>>>> Any information from the FermiLab side of things? Any information from >>>>> the SL side >>>>> of things? Any rumours? >>>>> >>>>> I opened a support ticket with CERN about this, let's see what they say. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Konstantin Olchanski >>>>> Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! >>>>> Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca >>>>> Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada >>> >>> -- >>> Konstantin Olchanski >>> Data Acquisition Systems: The Bytes Must Flow! >>> Email: olchansk-at-triumf-dot-ca >>> Snail mail: 4004 Wesbrook Mall, TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., V6T 2A3, Canada
