On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 11:26 AM Larry Linder <[email protected]> wrote: > > The solution: > > Make a bootable usb flash on widnows 10 laptop and it works. The > application sees that a couple of files are missing from Alma 8.5 and > adds them. > > If you use "dd" it only copies what it sees. I tried several other > Linux distribution using "dd" and they all work. > > Compaing the unbootable usb flash of alma 8.5 .iso and other bootablke > usb flash insatalls you can see what is missing.
Larry, you need to take this to almalinux, or perhaps to RHEL for negotiating it the way you want it in an upstream environment. It has nothing to do with Scientific Linux, which apparently plans not to produce new major releases. Almalinux is a new OS, and I'm not horrifically shocked that there are some issues with its deployment tools. > Once we got past the first layer of the onion and got alma installed by > disconnecting all drives but the install drive - it worked. However > the structure is not compatible with what we need to do. > GNOME is worse that a moronic. > We tried another desk top and could do very little. Same. Many people don't like Red Hat's selection of increasingly complex gui's, there are many published guides on how to switch to a lighterweight one. Talk to the upstream vendor. > We showed the Alma 8.5 system to the boss and all the guys. The comment > from the shop forman was that if he had to use pile of shit he was going > to quit. Let him say that for himself. Don't interpret for people who are upset by vendor choices. Asking the very nice people here to interpret through your anger to his anger is not going to help him, or you, get to a workable solution. "su -" won't work, nor will "sudo" for X applications. "ssh -X -l root" normally will, might try that to run root applications as a non-root GUI user. > So when you become "x" as super user with a password of "x" we loaded a > number of our 3 d Cad, Circuit Layout, and our spice program. We were > never able to get anything to run. It just says it "cant find file". > They have done away with the command line to run an executable program > or script. Root users as X still works. Logging into a GUI as root has always been a security and safety problem, "rm -rf /" is so easy to do, and even easier with an unfamiliar GUI. The gods only know what "become x as super-user" means. Does that mean you are using ssh to log in as the other "x" user? Or you are using some kind of string of 'su' commands? Details matter. > A third install with 3 disks installed. We tried to load it with the > "std Partition" and a "custom install" After two days of working on it, > we give up - its hopelessly broken. Nice piece of work IBM - if it > compiles just ship it - no testing required. Thank god they don't work > on aircraft engines. Almalinux is brand new, built from RHEL. I'll urge you to ease up on the handwaving and and lay out what you need, in a more detailed sense, in the AlmaLinux help groups. I'm not completely happy with the anaconda installer myself, and share some sympathy with frustration with needing to accomplish more sophisticated. > At the end of the demo. The boss handed me check for 6,000 to go get a > couple of Macs to try.. Ask in the AlmaLinux groups. > New Paragraph: > > We tried a number of new linux releases, for example Devian without > systemd. The security at install was so bad we were never able to > install it and make it work. > > The Linux community's decision to cancel "root" is the dumbest Idea I > have ever experienced. If you have another account with root priveladge > - what is the point. If its hacked the same result. Please, stop that. They've not "cancelled root". The vendors have decided to limit root access, partly because it's getting more used commercially and doing so much as root has been a real risk. > It is a "nugatory contrivance". There have been some mistakes. I don't think you're helping anyone this way. > What are we going to do fro an OS to run a small engineering / > manufacturing company. We will still use SL 6.5 that still supports 32 > bit application, and up date it to 6.10. Continue to update libs as > necessary to make things work. We all realise that this a dead end, but > it buys us time and its running out. > > Hate be be a complainer but this is getting too close the "J?W" axis > from my point of view. The *heck*? You did *not* just make the anti-semitic reference I think you did?
