Generally speaking, if its internal, its not USB. I should have been a little more political with that statement. :-) I would check to see if you can say "boot from floppy" either in the bios, or at an F-Key menu or something. Since it is USB, you might be able to say "boot from usb device".

One reason I was hesitant to think the internal drive would be USB is for this problem... USB is usually considered LAST as a boot device by default, so maybe not such a good idea... I have installed rack systems from USB cd-roms drives, so its not undoable.


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On Mar 23, 2007, at 11:13 AM, P. Larry Nelson wrote:

Donald Tripp wrote on 3/23/2007 3:24 PM:
Is the floppy internal? If so, it can't be USB. Also, it can't be ATA (Hard Drives and CD-ROM drives only). You're boot options also don't

If by "internal" you mean that it's part of the system and not attached with an external cable, yes, it sits just below the cdrom in the chassis.
Why can't it be USB?  Couldn't it be wired internally to a motherboard
USB port?

show a floppy. It is common to have more boot devices than can fit in the list, so does it give you the option to change the devices? Usually if you highlight it with the keyboard and hit enter or something.

Not sure about that. Can't get to it right now - I'm home having a beer!
I'll check on Monday.

If you watch the machine boot, is there an option F12 or something, to select boot devices? Some motherboard have this.

Not sure about that, either - will investigate.
Thanks!
- Larry

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On Mar 23, 2007, at 10:11 AM, P. Larry Nelson wrote:
Thanks Connie!

In the bios, under "Advanced", I see:

+--------------------------------------------------------+
 - Processor Configuration
 - Memory Configuration
 - ATA Controller Configuration
 - Serial Port Configuration
 - USB Configuration
 - PCI Configuration
 - System Acoustic and Performance Configuration
+--------------------------------------------------------+

Ok, I'm assuming it can't be in the ATA Controller Configuration.
Everything there is Enabled anyway.

In the USB Configuration, I see:

+--------------------------------------------------------+
 - Detected USB Devices
1 Drive

 - USB Controller [Enabled]
 - Legacy USB Support [Disabled]
 - Port 60/64 Emulation [Disabled]

 - USB Mass Storage Device Configuration
 - Device Reset Timeout [20 sec]

 - Storage Emulation
 - TEAC FD-05PUB  3000 [Auto]

 - USB 2.0 Controller [Enabled]
+-------------------------------------------------------+

Now, I hope you don't say I have to enable the Legacy USB Support
and the Port 60/64 Emulation, because (from a previous posting last
month) I have to have those disabled otherwise the keyboard and
mouse don't work.

Side question: is the "1 Drive" it detected the cdrom or the floppy?

Further data points:
Under the "Boot Options" in the BIOS, I see:

+-------------------------------------------------------+
 - Boot Option #1 [PATA: SR244W      ...]
 - Boot Option #2 [Intel(R) MB RAID]
 - Boot Option #3 [IBA GE Slot 0500 v...]
 - Boot Option #4 [[EFI Shell]]
+-------------------------------------------------------+

Is one of the above a floppy?

Ideas?
- Larry

Connie Sieh wrote on 3/23/2007 2:33 PM:
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, P. Larry Nelson wrote:
Ok, here's my dumb question of the week (might have more next week).
Does SL 4.4 not support floppy drives?
I indeed does support floppy drives.
You should check that your bios has the floppy enabled. Sometimes the floppy will show as a scsi device.(because it is really usb and usb shows as a scsi device)
-Connie Sieh
Reason I ask is I have an Intel Server System SR1500AL (mother board
is Intel Server Board S5000PAL), 1U rack mount, that came with two
internal disks (set up to be RAID 1, mirrored), a CDROM drive, and
a floppy drive.  I need to add the Intel RAID driver at install
time and Anaconda is only giving me the choice of sda (I'm assuming that's the hard disk) or hdb (is that the CDROM drive?) at the "Driver Disk Source" page. If I choose hdb and have the appropriate floppy
loaded and hit "ok", it just comes back asking me to insert the
driver disk again.  I'm pretty sure the floppy device should be
/dev/fdb (or fd0 or something like that).

So, my suspicion is that SL 4.4 does not support floppies, which
is a bummer since our entire legacy server installation and rebuild
process (that I need to migrate to SL 4.4) is based on floppy
diskette kickstarts.

Now, pending resolution of that major hurdle, I'm wondering
(assuming /dev/hdb is indeed the cdrom) how do I get the .img
driver file properly onto a cdrom from my Windows desktop (none
of our linux servers has a CD burner)?  The rawrite program works
only (I suspect) with floppies.  I tried using Roxio to put the
dd.img file on a cd-r, but that didn't seem to work either.
I suspect it's not in the right format.  When I open the cd on
my Windows box, all I see is a file called dd.img, which, of
course, I can't open.  When I do the same with the floppy I
created with rawrite, I can see the files contained in the dd.img.
Thanks!
- Larry


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