I'm currently on Fedora 20 (Heisenbug), and still have a /var/log/messages.

I would add that the old messages are still there - and journalctl simply
brings another method of finding the information you're looking for.

journalctl -b is equivalent to dmesg.

~Steven


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 2:10 AM, Andrew Z <form...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And how is this better?
>  On Jan 31, 2014 1:26 AM, "ToddAndMargo" <toddandma...@zoho.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Reference: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_
>> Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html
>>
>> I just noticed FC20 changed system logging.  That is going to
>> take some getting use to.  RHEL 7 perhaps?
>>
>> -T
>>
>>
>> 2.8.1. Syslog removed from default installation
>> syslog is no longer included in default installations. journald
>> logging serves most use cases as well as, or better than, syslogd.
>>
>> Users accustomed to checking /var/log/messages for system logs should
>> instead use journalctl.
>>
>> journalctl command examples:
>>
>> newjournalctl                   |  old messages
>> --------------------------------+-----------------------------
>> journalctl                      |  less /var/log/messages
>> journalctl -f                   |  tail -f /var/log/messages
>> journalctl --unit named.service |  grep named /var/log/messages
>> journalctl -b                   |  Shows logs from current boot,
>>                                 |  no simple equivalent.
>>
>>
>> --
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Computers are like air conditioners.
>> They malfunction when you open windows
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>


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