On 2014-01-31, at 15:51, Pat Riehecky <riehe...@fnal.gov> wrote:

> This documentation suggests rsyslog and journald coexist in the 7 Beta.

They do. By default, rsyslog is installed by default as usual, journald stores 
in /run (= tmpfs) only, and I like it.

NB the systemd authors have stated very clearly that they're not going to 
implement remote logging. Rsyslog won't go away.

> https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7-Beta/html-single/Migration_Planning_Guide/index.html#_new_logging_framework
> 
> On 01/31/2014 12:25 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Reference: 
>> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/sect-Release_Notes-Changes_for_Sysadmin.html
>> 
>> I just noticed FC20 changed system logging.  That is going to
>> take some getting use to.  RHEL 7 perhaps?
>> 
>> -T
>> 
>> 
>> 2.8.1. Syslog removed from default installation
>> syslog is no longer included in default installations. journald
>> logging serves most use cases as well as, or better than, syslogd.
>> 
>> Users accustomed to checking /var/log/messages for system logs should 
>> instead use journalctl.
>> 
>> journalctl command examples:
>> 
>> newjournalctl                   |  old messages
>> --------------------------------+-----------------------------
>> journalctl                      |  less /var/log/messages
>> journalctl -f                   |  tail -f /var/log/messages
>> journalctl --unit named.service |  grep named /var/log/messages
>> journalctl -b                   |  Shows logs from current boot,
>>                                |  no simple equivalent.

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