i hear you, it's just odd. I spent some time looking at all kinds of action/fantasy/scifi movies and TV shows from when I was younger. Did a lot of Star Trek research of course. The vast majority of the men and women in many roles are in their late 20s to late '30s. There doesn't seem to be a youth-oriented push, other than if you start counting stuff like the Beach movies with Frankie and Annette. Even the Star Trek vixens of the week were often around 25 and older. I guess the rise of Generation X or Y or Zeta or whatever has got the suits doing the calculations, as you said.
-------------- Original message -------------- From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I remember feeling the same when I was young. I did not need every character to be young like me, however, if truth be told I did relate more to the younger characters. But in our world people are different ages, so it felt like something of our world. It felt right. Not every part seems to fit someone in their mid-twenties. I think they did surveys and focus groups with the people who were the most frequent movie goers and uncovered that most of the related more closely to those closer to their age and perhaps were more motivated to go see a movie with characters closer to their age and as a result, 60% of all movies feature characters in their mid-twenties. Ugh... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to > films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i > absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than > i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who > was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being > 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said "McCoy is too old" > about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for > many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a > bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn close > to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, Buffy, and > others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the high end. > And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the series started, > with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft a Wonder Woman > barel > y out of her teens. > > I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the > day. From "The Towering Inferno" and "The Poseidon Adventure" to "The Omega > Man" and "Bullitt". In many, many of those old films--which set the standard > for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from > early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul > Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in > these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew seem > to favor. > > So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love the > younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids have > more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these characters > more? > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio > demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting > characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 > are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a > studios money is made. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young people. >> all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to mid-20s. Even >> the little blurb I read describes it as "Five young New Yorkers". Hopefully, >> like with "Lost", there'll be some old fogies my age who get meaty roles! >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >>> maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for >>>> >>>> >>> "Cloverfield", the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, >>> MI-3, >>> Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a >>> suspenseful >>> buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through >>> the >>> air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's >>> also >>> a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. >>> It >>> reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's "War of the Worlds" when the >>> military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally >>> lights up with weapons fire. >>> >>> >>>> The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled "trailer" is longer and >>>> shows >>>> >>>> >>> more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled >>> "teaser" gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see >>> the >>> Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with >>> lots >>> of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn >>> thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no >>> real >>> officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the >>> trailers. >>> >>> >>>> If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, >>>> and >>>> >>>> >>> he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan >>> of >>> old-fashioned monster flicks like "Godzilla". So this looks to be a fun >>> ride. >>> The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the >>> creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this >>> movie! >>> >>> >>>> Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ >>>> http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ >>>> >>>> ******************************* >>>> >>>> http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 >>>> >>>> >>>> What is Cloverfield? >>>> >>>> This is the question that has been debated across North America in the >>>> hours >>>> >>>> >>> since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. >>> Shrouded in >>> mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most >>> carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. >>> >>> >>>> BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally >>>> leads to >>>> >>>> >>> more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled >>> the >>> voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so >>> here >>> in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams >>> production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key >>> players >>> from Abrams' television shows are on board. >>> >>> >>>> The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and >>>> Lost >>>> >>>> >>> and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. >>> Fans of >>> Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we >>> sometimes >>> double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several >>> episodes of >>> Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on >>> Dirty >>> Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the >>> return of >>> Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently >>> canceled >>> Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the >>> cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final >>> season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and >>> earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal >>> in >>> The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and >>> imaginative >>> young writers in the industry. His presence alone is >>> >>> >>>> indic >>>> ative of a quality work in the offing. >>>> >>>> Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of >>>> his >>>> >>>> >>> most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. >>> BOP >>> has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves is >>> the >>> writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and he >>> served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and post-Keri >>> Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with >>> Reeves >>> even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes >>> back a >>> decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, Reeves >>> was >>> the easy choice to helm the project. >>> >>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
