true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian!

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From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with 
those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that 
> way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with "boys only watch movies about 
> boys" and "whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith)"
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> From: "Mike Street" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly
> Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular
> that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a
> new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older.
>
> We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen
> where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with
> where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big
> spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly
> 18-25.
>
> On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to
>> films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i
>> absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than
>> i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who
>> was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being
>> 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said "McCoy is too old"
>> about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for
>> many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a
>> bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn
>> close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias,
>> Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the
>> high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the
>> series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft
>> a Wonder Woman barel
>> y out of her teens.
>>
>> I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the
>> day. From "The Towering Inferno" and "The Poseidon Adventure" to "The Omega
>> Man" and "Bullitt". In many, many of those old films--which set the standard
>> for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from
>> early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul
>> Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in
>> these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew
>> seem to favor.
>>
>> So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love
>> the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids
>> have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these
>> characters more?
>>
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>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio
>> demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting
>> characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28
>> are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a
>> studios money is made.
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>> yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young
>>> 
>> people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to
>> mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as "Five young New
>> Yorkers". Hopefully, like with "Lost", there'll be some old fogies my age
>> who get meaty roles!
>> 
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>>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
>>> 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>> 
>>>> maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>>> 
>>>>> Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>> "Cloverfield", the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias,
>>>> 
>> MI-3,
>> 
>>>> Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a
>>>> 
>> suspenseful
>> 
>>>> buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing
>>>> 
>> through the
>> 
>>>> air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome.
>>>> 
>> There's also
>> 
>>>> a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never
>>>> 
>> see. It
>> 
>>>> reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's "War of the Worlds" when
>>>> 
>> the
>> 
>>>> military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area
>>>> 
>> literally
>> 
>>>> lights up with weapons fire.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled "trailer" is longer
>>>>> 
>> and shows
>> 
>>>> more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled
>>>> "teaser" gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't
>>>> 
>> see the
>> 
>>>> Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page
>>>> 
>> with lots
>> 
>>>> of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a
>>>> 
>> darn
>> 
>>>> thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no
>>>> 
>> real
>> 
>>>> officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the
>>>> trailers.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced
>>>>> 
>> story, and
>> 
>>>> he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a
>>>> 
>> fan of
>> 
>>>> old-fashioned monster flicks like "Godzilla". So this looks to be a fun
>>>> 
>> ride.
>> 
>>>> The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of
>>>> 
>> the
>> 
>>>> creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to
>>>> 
>> this
>> 
>>>> movie!
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/
>>>>> http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What is Cloverfield?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the question that has been debated across North America in the
>>>>> 
>> hours
>> 
>>>> since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release.
>>>> 
>> Shrouded in
>> 
>>>> mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most
>>>> carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally
>>>>> 
>> leads to
>> 
>>>> more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we
>>>> 
>> unveiled the
>> 
>>>> voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do
>>>> 
>> so here
>> 
>>>> in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams
>>>> production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key
>>>> 
>> players
>> 
>>>> from Abrams' television shows are on board.
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias
>>>>> 
>> and Lost
>> 
>>>> and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes.
>>>> 
>> Fans of
>> 
>>>> Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we
>>>> 
>> sometimes
>> 
>>>> double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several
>>>> 
>> episodes of
>> 
>>>> Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on
>>>> 
>> Dirty
>> 
>>>> Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the
>>>> 
>> return of
>> 
>>>> Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently
>>>> 
>> canceled
>> 
>>>> Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of
>>>> 
>> the
>> 
>>>> cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's
>>>> 
>> final
>> 
>>>> season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight,
>>>> 
>> and
>> 
>>>> earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The
>>>> 
>> Immortal in
>> 
>>>> The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and
>>>> 
>> imaginative
>> 
>>>> young writers in the industry. His presence alone is
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> indic
>>>>> ative of a quality work in the offing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one
>>>>> 
>> of his
>> 
>>>> most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this
>>>> 
>> project. BOP
>> 
>>>> has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves
>>>> 
>> is the
>> 
>>>> writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and
>>>> 
>> he
>> 
>>>> served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and
>>>> 
>> post-Keri
>> 
>>>> Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with
>>>> 
>> Reeves
>> 
>>>> even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes
>>>> 
>> back a
>> 
>>>> decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield,
>>>> 
>> Reeves was
>> 
>>>> the easy choice to helm the project.
>>>>
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