true, or maybe i'm just a contrarian! -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Maybe the likelihood of the movie earning more money is raised with those demographics - or maybe our culture is just youth obsessed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > and 18 -25 year olds only watch movies staring others their age? Wasn't that > way when I was 18 - 25? That's up there with "boys only watch movies about > boys" and "whites only watch movies staring whites (and Will Smith)" > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Mike Street" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > This pretty much started with the 80's moves that started Molly > Ringwald and the likes in the Brat Pack. Those movies where so popular > that more and more of them started to be turned out as marketers saw a > new market as the baby boomers started getting older and older. > > We can move forward to Gen X, Gen Y, and now the MySpace/YouTube Gen > where all of the money is being made and spent. It all has to do with > where you should be spending your ad dollars at. Right now the big > spend is all for online social media and that demographic is mainly > 18-25. > > On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> see, that's what confuses me. When i was younger, i of course related to >> films and TV shows that had people close to my age. But at the same time, i >> absolutely enjoyed movies and shows that had people significantly older than >> i was then. i didn't have an issue when i was 19 watching a James Bond who >> was clearly in his late '30s or early '40s. Didn't complain about Kirk being >> 34-which is old to some---when i was only 14. Never said "McCoy is too old" >> about Bones. Even in the comic world back in the day, the typical age for >> many superheroes was around 28, some a bit younger like Peter Parker, some a >> bit older like Stephen Strange or Reed Richards. But still, that's darn >> close to 30 and i never had a problem with it. Now, the likes of Alias, >> Buffy, and others seems to focus more on kids 18 - 25, with 25 being at the >> high end. And contrast Wonder Woman, where Lynda Carter was 25 when the >> series started, with Joss Whedon's goal when he was on the project to craft >> a Wonder Woman barel >> y out of her teens. >> >> I went back and looked at classic action and scifi films from back in the >> day. From "The Towering Inferno" and "The Poseidon Adventure" to "The Omega >> Man" and "Bullitt". In many, many of those old films--which set the standard >> for their day--the stars were typically middle-aged. I found ranges from >> early 30s on the low end to mid-50s in the likes of Ernest Borgnine and Paul >> Newman. There were of course youngsters, but even the lesser known stars in >> these films are about a decade older than the characters Abrams and crew >> seem to favor. >> >> So what changed? Is it just the likes of Abrams and Joss Whedon who love >> the younger stars? Is Hollywood more focused on younger stars because kids >> have more disposable income nowadays and thus support movies with these >> characters more? >> >> >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> ain't gonna happen. It seems to me, he is keeping to the studio >> demographic formula applied in Star Trek. Maybe some of the supporting >> characters will be a little older. Let's face it. Most of us over 28 >> are not going to the theatre every week, where the initial bulk of a >> studios money is made. >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> yeah, though i still wonder, why is Abrams so fascinated with young >>> >> people. all the main stars in Cloverfield seem to be in their early to >> mid-20s. Even the little blurb I read describes it as "Five young New >> Yorkers". Hopefully, like with "Lost", there'll be some old fogies my age >> who get meaty roles! >> >>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> >>>> maybe he is returning to his roots as a master storyteller >>>> >>>> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for >>>>> >>>>> >>>> "Cloverfield", the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, >>>> >> MI-3, >> >>>> Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a >>>> >> suspenseful >> >>>> buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing >>>> >> through the >> >>>> air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. >>>> >> There's also >> >>>> a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never >>>> >> see. It >> >>>> reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's "War of the Worlds" when >>>> >> the >> >>>> military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area >>>> >> literally >> >>>> lights up with weapons fire. >>>> >>>> >>>>> The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled "trailer" is longer >>>>> >> and shows >> >>>> more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled >>>> "teaser" gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't >>>> >> see the >> >>>> Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page >>>> >> with lots >> >>>> of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a >>>> >> darn >> >>>> thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no >>>> >> real >> >>>> officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the >>>> trailers. >>>> >>>> >>>>> If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced >>>>> >> story, and >> >>>> he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a >>>> >> fan of >> >>>> old-fashioned monster flicks like "Godzilla". So this looks to be a fun >>>> >> ride. >> >>>> The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of >>>> >> the >> >>>> creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to >>>> >> this >> >>>> movie! >>>> >>>> >>>>> Trailers: http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ >>>>> http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ >>>>> >>>>> ******************************* >>>>> >>>>> http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What is Cloverfield? >>>>> >>>>> This is the question that has been debated across North America in the >>>>> >> hours >> >>>> since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. >>>> >> Shrouded in >> >>>> mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most >>>> carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. >>>> >>>> >>>>> BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally >>>>> >> leads to >> >>>> more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we >>>> >> unveiled the >> >>>> voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do >>>> >> so here >> >>>> in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams >>>> production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key >>>> >> players >> >>>> from Abrams' television shows are on board. >>>> >>>> >>>>> The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias >>>>> >> and Lost >> >>>> and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. >>>> >> Fans of >> >>>> Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we >>>> >> sometimes >> >>>> double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several >>>> >> episodes of >> >>>> Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on >>>> >> Dirty >> >>>> Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the >>>> >> return of >> >>>> Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently >>>> >> canceled >> >>>> Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of >>>> >> the >> >>>> cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's >>>> >> final >> >>>> season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, >>>> >> and >> >>>> earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The >>>> >> Immortal in >> >>>> The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and >>>> >> imaginative >> >>>> young writers in the industry. His presence alone is >>>> >>>> >>>>> indic >>>>> ative of a quality work in the offing. >>>>> >>>>> Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one >>>>> >> of his >> >>>> most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this >>>> >> project. BOP >> >>>> has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. Reeves >>>> >> is the >> >>>> writer/director of the 1996 David Schwimmer comedy, The Pallbearer, and >>>> >> he >> >>>> served as executive producer during the run of Felicity (pre- and >>>> >> post-Keri >> >>>> Russell haircut). Reeves and Abrams created that project together with >>>> >> Reeves >> >>>> even writing and directing the pilot, so their working relationship goes >>>> >> back a >> >>>> decade now. When Goddard came up with the premise for Cloverfield, >>>> >> Reeves was >> >>>> the easy choice to helm the project. >>>> >>>> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]