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_____ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:02 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Can't Wait for "Cloverfield" Thanks, Keith. Now I'll be walking around in the grocery store, bellowing "AtAAAAAAAAACK of the Killer To-mAAAAAAAAA-TOOOOOOOOOes..." ;D KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: you know i'm joking. i've said before, i'd rather watch the b-movies from the 50s - '70s over the SciFi Originals. Give me "The Incredible Two Headed Transplant", "Day of the Triffids", even "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes". -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> I don't even bother. I watched about four times when they first started their movies. Even the ones with good genre actors were bad. After hearing reviews both on the list and around the web, I believe all of them are bad, so why waste any time hoping for a good campy b-movie. What I do not get, is if they are going to mass produce like this, and quality is not a priority, why not use it as an opportunity to discover tomorrow's science fiction and fantasy film makers. KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: > you haven't lived 'til you've seen "Chupacabra" or one of the many bad-CGI films like "Doom Troopers" or "Gargoyles" > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com> com> > Strong??? I don't even have to put any effort in avoiding that crap...All I have to do is see a bug or psychotic animal and I'm watching the History Channel... > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote: You have to be strong, know it will be bad, REAL BAD, VERY VERY BAD, and > do not even consider watching the so-called "most dangerous night on > television". It is only dangerous for your love of the genre. It is > rarely even b-movie, campy, funny bad. It is chronic, kill your love of > campy, funny B-movies. These are W-Movies. Their star ratings on a > scale of 1 to 5 are usually negative -2 or even lower. There are no > exceptions. I know each time you hope there will be that one rare gem, > but it will not happen. > > Now, repeat after me... > I will not watch The Scifi Channel's "most dangerous night on television" > I will not watch The Scifi Channel's "most dangerous night on television" > I will not watch The Scifi Channel's "most dangerous night on television" > > Astromancer wrote: > >> Sci Fi has turned me off to just about all flicks involving animals or insects.... >> >> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com> aladvantage.com> wrote: Even so, I like shows with sea monsters >> >> Martin wrote: >> >> >>> Oh- by this I do *not* mean octopi... >>> >>> Martin wrote: Only a handful of monster flicks have scared me, and they all have one common element. >>> >>> Hideous eight-legged creatures. >>> >>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" wrote: I found script reviews, but avoided them for the same reason. I want to >>> know more, but I do not want it spoiled for me. Guest what. I think I'm >>> actually going to venture out to the theater for this one. While I used >>> to go over my friends house every Saturday afternoon to hang out with >>> the gang and watch the Japanese monster genre, I felt they were silly >>> too. Looking back it seems they likely launch my movie night. It was >>> for the company. Most monster flicks do not scare me. >>> >>> Abrams and Goddard have scared me in the past and that trailer is out of >>> this world, so I'm psyched. I couldn't even finish Rob Zombie's movie, >>> so if that is the best the US can do, we need to go back to film >>> school. There are a few gothic horrors (vampires, ghosts, >>> shapeshifters, mummies, etc) I like, but frequently, I've tuned in for >>> the character development as well as the chills and thrills >>> >>> I have not seen the Host, but thanks to you, I just added it to my >>> Netflix que >>> >>> I used to think Japan was into the mutant monsters because of the Atomic >>> bomb experience. But I have no idea >>> >>> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>> thanks for all the research, Tracey. Knew I could count on you! You know what, though? I'm going to avoid seeing any pictures of the beastie. Having come this far with the project so tightly under wraps, I think I'll wait until i'm in theatre to confront whatever it is, so I can be surprised. I'll read some more about the movie, though. >>>> >>>> I'm really excited and hopeful. the giant monster flick is something that's long languished in America. It never really took off on the level of truly scaring people, either. I mean, outside the first, awesome, frightening Godzilla movie (I've only seen the Americanized cut with Raymond Burr, hear the original Japanese version is better) I can't think of many giant monster flicks that scared American audiences. We had loads of giant monster pics, of course. We all grew up on them, from Destroy All Monsters to King Kong. But those were rarely *scary*, just exciting, entertaining, or plain silly (Smog Monster, anyone? Mothra?) I think I can recall being afraid of the man-eating Gargantuan, but that's it. >>>> >>>> I hear the movie "The Host" was really good, but it didn't do big box office here. It only did two million in America, but over eighty-six million worldwide!Contrast that with something like Rob Zombie's "House of 1000 Corpses", which despite being junk, did sixteen million here, but only four million overseas. >>>> >>>> Seems like in America most monster flicks deal with vampires or werewolves or zombies or ghosts. Wonder why Asia is more into the giant-sized type? >>>> >>>> -------------- Original message -------------- >>>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" >>>> Try these sites from imdb >>>> >>>> There have also been a number of characters' MySpace pages found, >>>> through which you can find other characters in the movie. >>>> "Rob"--http://www.myspace. <http://www.myspace.com/robbyhawkins> com/robbyhawkins >>>> >>>> www.jamieandteddy.com In September 2007 >>>> this website was discovered. It features a password protected video of >>>> the actress who plays Jamie Lascano as the character keeping a video >>>> diary for her boyfriend. The password for the video is jllovesth. There >>>> are 5 videos so far. >>>> >>>> www.theblairgodzillaproject.com >>>> is another new site that shows the characters and films that inspired >>>> J.J. Abrams to make the film. >>>> >>>> http://www.slusho. <http://www.slusho.jp/.> jp/. This site is designed to appear as a commercial >>>> website about a fictitious beverage called 'Slusho' that J.J. Abrams has >>>> so far included in both "Lost" and "Alias." >>>> >>>> Mike Street wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> try researching Slusho and you'll find out a lot more of what >>>>> Cloverfield is all about. There is a lot going on with the movie and >>>>> there are several fake MySpace pages which info on the movie it all >>>>> ties into an elaborate online game millions are playing right in >>>>> online and offline >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 27, 2007 9:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> found some pix of the monster >>>>>> http://www.massiveb <http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg> lack.com/stabby/stabbysidefinal.jpg >>>>>> http://www.massiveb <http://www.massiveblack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg> lack.com/stabby/paint16.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wanna see an exciting trailer? Then you must check the trailer for "Cloverfield", the top-secret monster movie from JJ Abrams (Lost, Alias, MI-3, Star Trek). The monster(s) isn't(aren't) shown, but talk about a suspenseful buildup! Seeing the freakin' Statue of Liberty's head come sailing through the air *all the way from the water* to crash into the street? Awesome. There's also a scene showing the military firing like crazy at something we never see. It reminds me of the great scene in Spieldberg's "War of the Worlds" when the military attacks the Martians on that hillside and the whole area literally lights up with weapons fire. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Apple site has two trailers. The one labeled "trailer" is longer and shows more stuff. it's the one you'll see at many other sites. The one labeled "teaser" gives a slightly different angle. Check 'em out. If you can't see the Apple trailers, try the second link below, which is to a MovieWeb page with lots of videos, including a two second glimpse of the monster (can't see a darn thing, though). Hard to find a lot of stuff on this film, as there's no real officiall movie site, but i included some info from a blogger below the trailers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If nothing else, Abrams knows how to tell an exciting, fast-paced story, and he actually believes in good plotting and acting as well. he also is a fan of old-fashioned monster flicks like "Godzilla". So this looks to be a fun ride. The fact that the script has been kept secret, along with any view of the creature, is only heightening the anticipation. I'm looking forward to this movie! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trailers: http://www.apple. <http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/> com/trailers/paramount/cloverfield/ >>>>>>> http://www.movieweb <http://www.movieweb.com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/> .com/movies/film/53/5153/videos/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ******************************* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.boxoffic <http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118> eprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=10118 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What is Cloverfield? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the question that has been debated across North America in the hours since Transformers debuted the teaser to this upcoming 2008 release. Shrouded in mystery since its inception, the plot of Cloverfield is one of the most carefully guarded secrets in Hollywood right now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BOP is generally not in the business of breaking news as it generally leads to more aggravation than it's worth, but for the first time since we unveiled the voice cast of The Incredibles, we are going to make an exception and do so here in order to clear up some of the mystery. Cloverfield is a J.J. Abrams production, so it should not be surprising to hear that a couple of key players from Abrams' television shows are on board. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The writer is Drew Goddard. Goddard has been a producer on both Alias and Lost and served as co-executive producer for the latter show's 2007 episodes. Fans of Joss Whedon (and BOP knows there are a ton of you out there since we sometimes double as a Firefly fan site) also know him as a writer for several episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel. Goddard was the principal scribe on Dirty Girls, the episode from Buffy season seven. This episode featured the return of Faith as well as the transition of Nathan Fillion from the recently canceled Firefly to Buffy wherein he portrayed a nefarious, misogynistic man of the cloth. Goddard's work on Angel primarily occurred during that show's final season as well. He wrote the World War II submarine epic, Why We Fight, and earned his place in permanent Whedon-lore for his invention of The Immortal in The Girl in Question. Clearly, he is one of the most inventive and imaginative young writers in the industry. His presence >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> alon >>> >>> >>>>> e is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> indic >>>>>>> ative of a quality work in the offing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Abrams has not left anything to chance, though. He has also hired one of his most trusted co-workers from the early days of Felicity for this project. BOP has confirmed that Matt Reeves is the director on this project. 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