No offense taken at all, Martin! In fact, we Zebras, ok, zebras (chuckle!) NEED to get feedback from fans, coaches, etc. I've become a much better official because I was taught to listen to feedback by some great officials who were my mentors... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/>
_____ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:39 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player No disrespect intended, Reece, and forgive me if any was taken. I know what you mean by wishing that you'd been able to take back some calls (not personally). It just bothers me no end that so many refs suffer from the ego-trip borne of having life-or-death power over the destinies of games. "Tuck Rule and "Snow Plow" come readliy to mind. Martin (not a Patriots fan on general principles- they've never done anything to offend me) Reece Jennings <mcjennings124@ <mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com> wrote: I am a Zebra (note the capitalization!), and I know and agree with the words. We are human, and mistakes with calls, while hard to take, are sometimes made. That's the reason for instant replay. I have some calls I've made that I would give anything to take back. But to put hands on a player...NEVER!!! Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com> mesavers.com <http://www.legacyho <http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/> mesavers.com/> _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: NFL Umpire Fined for Choke Hold on Player I ahve many words for zebras. Most of them would get this group shut down again. In so many words, that was the live-action version of that Bud commercial, in which the zebra overhears a defensive coordinator exhorting his squad with promises of beer for a good hit, which drives the zebra to make a monster hit on the quarterback, and do a full celebration over the fallen player. He got too caught up in the moment, forgot that he was there to be neutral. KeithBJohnson@ <mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net> comcast.net wrote: WTF?? What's up with this umpire that he's tackling and choking players--in more than one game? Shouldn't he just get out of the way if the melee gets out of hand? Heck, what does he do if a maddened player inadvertently starts whaling on him--bring mace or a stun gun to the stadium? Maybe this ump needs to audition for the new American Gladiators!! ************************************** [From Wisconsis radio and AP sources] GREEN BAY - After saying earlier in the week that it wouldn't take discipline umpire Jim Quirk, who pulled Green Bay Packers linebacker Nick Barnett down from behind in a choke hold during a skirmish during last Sunday's game at Chicago, the NFL announced Friday that it fined Quirk for "inappropriate physical contact with players." Quirk was notified he was fined one game check ($8,150) by NFL executive vice president of football operations Ray Anderson. Quirk can appeal the fine to commissioner Roger Goodell. Quirk was notified in person at the NFL office on Friday morning, when Goodell spoke to Quirk in his office. Goodell also spoke by phone on Thursday to Barnett and Packers coach Mike McCarthy, the league said. The fine includes a similar incident involving Falcons running back Jason Snelling on a kickoff return in the Atlanta-Tampa Bay game on Dec. 16, according to an NFL spokesman. Quirk was also involved in another incident just before halftime of the Arizona-Washington game on Oct. 21, when he took Cardinals lineman Elton Brown to the ground with a similar move. The NFL made the announcement after the Friday locker-room availability period was over. Asked during the availability whether he'd gotten the apology from Quirk he was looking for, Barnett said, "No ... well, sort of.".... Barnett might not file a formal grievance against NFL official Jim Quirk after all. The Green Bay Packers linebacker's agent says he is more interested in having the league admit that Quirk's rough treatment of Barnett was wrong. "Look, I don't think there's a lot to be gained by a grievance," agent Chuck Price said Thursday. "All we're trying to do is to protect Nick."...Price previously told several media outlets he was considering filing a grievance with the league over the incident. League officials haven't announced any action against Barnett or the official. Price says Barnett gets fined all the time for actions that aren't as serious, such as wearing the wrong color wristband or committing a routine face mask penalty during a game. "This guy comes with a WWF choke hold, and just gets let go," Price said. Packers coach Mike McCarthy called Quirk's actions "totally unprofessional" earlier this week... Barnett said he didn't want to cause any further trouble and was letting McCarthy handle the incident, but joked that the official might have a future in professional wrestling. "I got in a choke hold, I couldn't really breathe a little bit," Barnett said. "He got a good one on me. I don't know how he got under that face mask, but he got a good hold on me." 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