Come one, she shouldn't have started an altercation. What is this WWF? :) that's the same problem we have in Congress: people want to rise (or fall) to the level of their attackers, rather than standing back and pulling things back up to a civil level.
I only zoomed by to see the MJ tribute, and caught his act. I don't watch this awards show because I find much of it boring, and tire of seeing people clown exactly like this. But whether I watched or not, he was out of line. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryle Lockhart" <dar...@darylelockhart.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:16:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment And to be fair, most of my issue was with the piece you forwarded, not you. It's cool. I DO think she should have taken the mic back and cursed him out. I do. I think this is 2009. It's MTV. Yes, you curse out Kanye West. Yes. I think we all have issues with megastars, those who believe they are megastars, and their egos. But the fact is, it's the MTV VMAs. You, as a viewer, are co-signing this kind of behaviour just by staying tuned. On Sep 14, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Keith Johnson wrote: To be concise, I didn't like it the first time he did it, and I didn't like the second, etc., nor now. There's a time and place to act this way. And, MTV awards are known for cursing, women kissing, etc. But even there, people jumping up on stage is just tasteless. I'm not being stuffy, i'm just saying that acting a fool is acting a fool, regardless of one's "genius". I hate it when Madonna gets condescending to people, I hate it when Kanye acts like this. And I don't know taylor Swift at all, but I think saying she pulled out the "poor lil' me" act is a bit harsh. She's basically a kid who had a great moment, ruined by a fool who literally stole her moment. What did you want her to do? Grab the mic back, curse him out? Hit him on the head? She shouldn't have even had to think of doing any of those things. As for being a pro, I give her props for coming back like she did. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryle Lockhart" <dar...@darylelockhart.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:13:54 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Kanye West Again Ruins Award Recipient's Moment What's wrong with him is that every time he does this and releases and album it sells millions of copies and downloads. What's wrong with him is that he's been a jerk on records for years now and everybody loved him. When his mom died, everybody blogged about how they "understood". Really? Well then how does everyone turn on him when he acts a fool? Who's been checking on and mentoring Kanye during all of this? The first paragraph of this piece is the most important. Kanye's village is the entertainment industry. What I love about everyone's criticism of this is that nobody finds it strange that these kinds of things happen around MTV events. How, exactly, does one get to go on stage during someone's acceptance speech, in New York City, in September? Is there NO security? Furthermore, how is there no contingency plan for KANYE WEST, a dude who has done this before. FURTHERmore, how does Kanye West get into Radio City with an open bottle of Hennessey, unchecked? How does MTV's parent company have to pay millions of dollars in fines to the FCC over Janet Jackson's "wardrobe malfunction" and then, the event where she's one of the opening acts, there's no contingency plan for something to happen on stage? Additionally, Taylor Swift did NOT handle it gracefully. She reacted like the line judge at the US Open this weekend, acting like her life was in danger. She had just got finished talking about how she was a country artist. Good luck taking the mic from Dolly Parton. Kanye would have gotten HANDLED at the Grand Ol Opry. No, Taylor went into "little ol me" mode, but still held it together enough to perform. This is show business. I am so tired of media companies getting a pass when stuff happens on their dime. If this were Johnny Rotten all the blogs would be talking about how "cool" it was and how "real rock and roll is back". Why can't a Black artist be rude? the dude's whole act is being rude and cocky. The guy has a song about his BIG EGO. WTF is "he's lost it this time". No, he lost it when he said "George Bush Doesn't Care About Black People", but because we all AGREED with that, we let it go. If THIS is wrong, THAT was wrong. And finally, spare me the "poor Taylor Swift". When Beyonce gave her the opportunity to "have her moment", the child literally went out there and finished her speech. No dap to Beyonce, no acknowledgment that she didn't direct the video, and that the DIRECTOR really deserved the award...just "mememememe", turned, and left. This is show business. Everybody has an act. Everybody bought the "Kanye is weird and might be crazy" act and DID NOT SAY ANYTHING. Now it's doing what it said on the box, and everybody's up in arms? Come on. Let's not be this stuffy. On Sep 14, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Keith Johnson wrote: To get away from healthcare, rude Republicans, and terrorists. As Monty Python gang said, "And now for something completely different..." what the heck is wrong with the brother?? ************************************************** Kanye West Has Truly Lost It This Time Posted 6 minutes ago by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training You know that saying, it takes a village to raise a child? Apparently, Kanye 's village has failed him. He obviously doesn't have a real friend in the world. There does not appear to be anyone who can get through to him, to make him understand that he needs to curb his obnoxious behavior. I thought it was a joke when Kanye showed up on the MTV Video Music Awards stage next to Taylor Swift , right in the middle of her acceptance speech for Best Female Video for " You Belong With Me ." It was the first Moon Man for the 19-year-old country starlet, who has become an equally huge star in the pop world. "I always dreamed about what it would be like to win one of these one day," Taylor said with surprise. "I never thought it would happen." As Taylor continued, Kanye interrupted, saying he thought Beyonce's "Single Ladies" video was wrongly overlooked. "Hey Taylor, I'm really happy for you, but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time." Taylor looked humiliated. I felt humiliated for her. The audience booed him, and gave her a standing ovation. I didn't expect Taylor to win that award, and I'm not upset about Kanye's opinion. However, bum-rushing the stage wasn't the appropriate time and place to express his disagreement. Not only was Kanye's approach disrespectful, it was especially a disrespectful act directed towards a woman--a teenage girl, actually. Taylor won't turn 20 until December. I can only imagine how her father feels. I'm sure he would like to have a talk to Kanye. I'm not related to her, and I'd like to have a talk with him. If Kanye wants people to win the awards he thinks they deserve, he should create his own event. He should name it after his website, KanyeUniversecity.com , and webcast it. Kanye is a guest at the MTV Video Music Awards. He does not determine the winners. The winners are determined by popular vote. Furthermore, aside from the fact that Taylor Swift is a top-selling artist, who has revolutionized teen country pop, she did not have any competition in this category as her competitors Beyonce, Lady GaGa, Pink, and Kelly Clarkson split the pop vote. Taylor had to get 100 percent of the country vote, plus some of the pop vote as well. It's simple math that even a "College Dropout" should be able to figure out. Ironically, a MTV writer joked that Kanye's rant was an indication that he might be inebriated. "Kanye West ruins Taylor Swift's big moment," the MTV.com editor wrote. "Further proof that he's on the Hennessy. In my humble opinion, that is." MTV also reported that Perez Hilton and Hayley Williams started a #TeamTaylor trend on Twitter. Pink tweeted about her annoyance with Kanye. "Kanye West is the biggest piece of sh-t on earth. Quote me," she wrote. "My heart goes out to Taylor Swift. She is a sweet and talented girl, and deserved her moment. She should know we all love her." Kanye has previously made award show rants about Gretchen Wilson, Justice and Simian, as well as Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake, but this was the worst. I give credit to Taylor. She handled it gracefully. The audience countered him by giving her a standing ovation, and booed Kanye throughout the night whenever his name was mentioned. Taylor performed "You Belong With Me" live just minutes later. I watched, wondering if she would feel flustered, and if it would show in her performance. But it didn't. I think she channeled that negative energy into a positive. Good for her. Fortunately, Taylor got another chance to complete her acceptance speech. When Beyonce accepted the Best Video Award for "Single Ladies," she invited Taylor back on stage. "Wow, this is amazing," Beyonce said when receiving her award. "I remember being 17-years-old and up for my first MTV award with Destiny's Child. It was one of the most exciting moments in my life. So, I'd like for Taylor to come out and have her moment." Taylor then joined Beyonce on stage and recited her acceptance speech without making reference to Kanye. Still, MTV should have thrown Kanye out of the event. Had any other heckler had the audacity to interrupt the broadcast, they would have been thrown out and probably charged. He should not be treated any differently. This dude needs help.
