That's a bit of a different assertion. ;) He has made successful films but they aren't my cup of tea either.
His work after Showgirls isn't anywhere as good as stuff you mentioned or his more Dutch films like Spetters and Soldier of Orange. I totally agree with you that point. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Kelwyn" <ravena...@...> wrote: > > I know "Black Book" was critically acclaimed (I still haven't seen it) but > "Starship Troopers" is a hot mess. I still assert Verhoeven hasn't done > anything post-Showgirls to rival his work pre-Showgirls. > > ~(no)rave! > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "B Smith" <daikaiju66@> wrote: > > > > Rave, > > Verhoeven did Starship Troopers and Black Book post-Showgirls. Starshp > > Troopers isn't a fave but it was well received and Black Book was > > critically acclaimed. > > > > Unfortunately he also squeezed Hollow Man in there too. > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I *tried* to watch it for the first time back in '07. The laughter put me > > > in too much pain to finish. > > > > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > > > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > From: ravenadal@ > > > Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:06:16 +0000 > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the Last > > > Decade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I HATED "Showgirls" the first time I saw it because, at > > > the time, I adored Paul Verhoeven's films: "Fresh and Blood," "RoboCop," > > > "Total Recall," and "Basic Instinct." The phenomenal success of "Basic > > > Instinct" is the worse thing that could have happened to Verhoeven. He > > > hasn't made a successful movie since. "Showgirls" is SO big, bloated, > > > overblown, underwritten and BAD, it is almost "good." > > > > > > > > > > > > ~rave! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin Baxter <truthseeker013@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rave... you were able to *watch* "Showgirls"? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're my hero... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in > > > > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > From: ravenadal@ > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:05:53 +0000 > > > > > > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Rotten Tomatoes Picks Worst Movies of the > > > > Last Decade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I miss something? I don't see "Catwoman" on this > > > > list. "Catwoman" clocked a mighty 10% fresh rating and this list > > > > starts with "Whiteout" (number 100) with a 7% fresh rating. It is all > > > > down hill from there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While this list is strictly based on the fresh rating these films > > > > accrued (or failed to), there should be a distinction between something > > > > like "Basic Instinct 2" which is high gloss trash(like "Showgirls") but > > > > watchable and "Glitter" which is utterly unwatchable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~(no)rave! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not at all surprised to see "Catwoman" on tis list, despite some of > > > > > you who inexplicably thought it was some kind of sly tongue-in-cheek > > > > > masterpiece.(George, didn't you send a favorable review of it from > > > > > England? ) Also not surprised to see "Battlefield Earth" on there. > > > > > I tried to watch that one rainy Sunday morning when I didn't want to > > > > > go anywhere--and turned the channel after ten minutes. Never saw > > > > > this "Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever" flick. 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