Dude

That argument is like telling me Star Wars is the story of two droids who have 
a grand adventure in space. It's factually accurate but ignores that fact that 
there are several other important and worthwhile stories being told. 

Clearly there's some exploitation going on and it's ugly. Then again, it's a 
show about remaining human in the face of exploitation. I'm relatively certain 
that's a hard story to tell without some exploitation being represented. In the 
end, the exploitation is not the reason for the show. It's the driving force 
behind some really really creative and human character development.

It's clear that your down to dislike Dollhouse and I'm certainly not gonna 
abandon ship so I'm gonna bow out of this little exchange. 

Bosco

--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Kelwyn <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Kelwyn <[email protected]>
Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: catching up on dollhouse
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 12:48 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      Lessee...



Echo is a "doll" who is sold to the highest bidder to fulfill their (often 
sexual) fantasies.



In Episode 1 (actually Episode 2 but the first one shown) Echo is "the perfect 
date," both a prostitute (she sleeps with the client on assignment) and the 
human prey of the same sadistic sicko (after he beds her he sets out to kill 
her - nice) - AND she is fully compliant because she is a programmed "doll" and 
not a fully functioning human being in control of her thoughts and actions. 



In Episode 2, she is a "video ho."



In Episode 3, she is a "call girl/antiquities thief/lost little girl."



In Episode 4, she is a "powerless and compliant cult member."



Episode 8:(I personally found episode 8, where Victor is sent on a "lonely 
hearts" mission and the client turns out to be his "boss" extremely creepy)



SEASON TWO



Episode 1, she is perfect "wifey" - a role she has played more than once.



Episode 2, she is a hot "baby mama."



Episode 3, she is the student "muse" to a college professor.



And I haven't even mentioned the misogynistic symbolism of a character having 
her face razor sliced.



At least Larry Flynt had the good grace to call the dolls he sold "polyvinyl 
perversity."



~(no)rave!



--- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Bosco Bosco <ironpi...@. ..> wrote:

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> You're about 180 degrees off the mark here and over simplifying in the 
> extreme. It's unfortunate but hey if you wanna ignore amazing work from one 
> of the finest character development folks in the history of television, 
> that's certainly your business. I'll continue to enjoy some of the finest 
> Whedon so far.

> 

> Bosco

> 

> --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Kelwyn <ravena...@. ..> wrote:

> 

> From: Kelwyn <ravena...@. ..>

> Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: catching up on dollhouse

> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com

> Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:27 AM

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>       What kinky sexual fetishes did Whedon explore in these episodes?

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> --- In scifino...@yahoogro ups.com, Bosco Bosco <ironpigs3@ ..> wrote:

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> > I'm really really busy these days and my outside work and family 
> > activities, like reading and watching TV are at a snails pace. I just 
> > caught up on the last three episodes of Dollhouse. I'm completely 
> > overwhelmed with how good it's gotten and how expertly Whedon is weaving 
> > the story line. I feel 100% redeemed in my prediction that he would make a 
> > great series out of this concept and I'll go out on a limb here and say 
> > this is some of his absolutely best work. What an amazing piece of 
> > television.

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> > Bosco

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