No, I didn't know, and I'm not trying to pry. There are many of us on the list whose ethnicities are easily known because we talk about it so often. I mean, you'd have to be brain dead not to know that people like Martin, Astro, and me are black. But others? How many of us are white, and how would we tell if the person doesn't say so? When we discuss Star Trek, politics, idiot conservatives, even the evils of racism, none of that cries "i'm white" or "I'm black" necessarily.
And beyond that, how many members are Asian, Latin, Pacific Islander? How many are of multiple categories, such as some Latinoes who are both that, and black? For that matter, how many are Latinoes who don't even check the "Black" box? Anyway, "painfully caucasian"? that's hilarious. Though now I gotta think back to see if I've said anything really fierce about painful caucasians that might have offended you... :( ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bosco Bosco" <ironpi...@yahoo.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 7:58:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed You didn't know? I refer to it as "painfully caucasian." --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net> wrote: From: Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 1:01 PM Interesting. okay, let me be plain: are you "melanin-challenged "? :) I only ask 'cause of those self-descriptions of Tennessee White Trash. I'm sure I have some European blood in me, but i'm basically just a "Colored" man! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bosco Bosco" <ironpi...@yahoo. com> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 1:46:25 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed I figured that's about as self defining as possible. We rose up from the birthplace of Ugly, the Cumberland Plateau and headed west to Texas with the land grants from the Mexican Government. I am at least a 7th Generation Texan on my Mom's side and probably more on my Dad's. There's some seriously distrubing Okie heritage as well. I try not to talk about that. It hurts my soul. On the other hand, I'm a quarter German from my Maternal grandmother. Her folks came over from Germany and settled in with all the other Tuetonics in Central Texas. Texas, like every other place in the US, is derived from a history of land thievery, murder and deceit. We're just prouder of it than everyone else. Bosco --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net> wrote: From: Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:32 PM Too funny. Not to pry, but "Tennessee White Trash"?? Wanna expound on that? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bosco Bosco" <ironpi...@yahoo. com> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 11:41:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Those of us with a proud heritage of Tennesse White Trash that nobody else wanted still see ourselves as Southern and Texan. My family came down with the land grants from Mexico and promptly began to the scurge of ignorant hillbilly entitlement that scars this fine state to this day. You can leave the trailer behind but you never really wash the whole stink off of ya. What are ya gonna do? Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net> wrote: From: Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@ comcast.net> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 10:58 PM Interesting points you make, but I have one quibble: If you live in Austin, you're *not* a Southerner, you're a *Texan*!! Trust me, after growing up in Texas, and living in Atlanta for two decades, I can tell you the differences are many, former Confederate membership aside. I confound people here all the time when they say I'm from the South, and I say, "No, I'm not from the South, I'm from Texas". "Well, it has to be the South, 'cause Texas isn't really the Southwest like Arizona and New Mexico" is often the smart retort. "That's right", I drawl, "I'm not a true Southerner, and I'm not a true Southwesterner- -I'm a Texan". And that says it all... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bosco Bosco" <ironpi...@yahoo. com> To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:30:40 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed Obviously there is a relationship between ratings and success. Even an dopey southern, half wit like me can figure that much out. On the other hand, If your network goes out of it's way to ruin your ratings before your show is even on the air, you have to place the blame where the blame is due. In this case, the network is the problem. To be less than polite, Fox is totally fucking retarded. There's a bar here in Austin where the patrons play bingo with live chickens. The player who's chicken shits in the appropriate places first wins. The idiots at Fox could make their programming decisions with the chickenshit bingo method and it would be exponentially better than the first full drool cup method they currently use. Worst network in the history of television ever. Bosco --- On Thu, 11/12/09, bruce harden <bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com> wrote: From: bruce harden <bhsleepystudent3@ gmail.com> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 4:06 PM DONT BLAME THE NET WORK IF YOU DONT WATCH YOU DONT GET RATINGS .PERIOD.AND people dont want to seem to want to be challenged when those plain jkane shows csi navy spin offs are winning there time slots . Me ,I would like to see those dvr numbers because from what i can tell the genre stuff does well on ater time On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Bosco Bosco < ironpi...@yahoo. com > wrote: and we succumb to the inevitable. I hope he never works with them again. Bosco --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Tracey de Morsella < tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com > wrote: From: Tracey de Morsella < tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Dollhouse' axed To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:09 PM This just in: 'Dollhouse' axed This has been a busy week for cancellations. The latest addition to the TV graveyard: Dollhouse . According to multiple insiders, Fox has informed Joss Whedon that it will not be ordering additional installments of his low-rated drama beyond the current 13-episode order. On the bright side, the network still plans to burn off the remaining unaired episodes beginning in December. Hey, it’s something. Dollhouse has been averaging a mere 3 million viewers this season. Last season — when fan support, together with significant budget cuts, helped it to get an odds-defying second-year pickup — the show averaged 4.7 million. Bottom line: Dollhouse is lucky it ever saw a second season. Remember that when you’re posting your eulogies below. UPDATE: Whedon just posted the following statement on Whedonesque. com : “I don’t have a lot to say. I’m extremely proud of the people I’ve worked with: my star, my staff, my cast, my crew. I feel the show is getting better pretty much every week, and I think you’ll agree in the coming months. I’m grateful that we got to put it on, and then come back and put it on again. I’m off to pursue Internet ventures/binge drinking. Possibly that relaxation thing I’ve read so much about. By the time the last episode airs, you’ll know what my next project is. But for now, there’s a lot of work still to be done, and disappointment to bear. Thank you all for your support, your patience, your excellent adverts. See you again.” Tracey de Morsella, Managing Producer The Green Economy Post http://greeneconomy post.com tra...@greeneconomy post.com