I can believe it. I'm looking forward to finally getting caught up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Worf" <hellomahog...@gmail.com> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:12:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 5 Reasons Caprica Is The Season's Most Promising New SF Series
I agree. There was one season where it was heart wrenching to watch, but I also believe that it was necessary on some level. The best writing that they did in the entire series was during that time frame. On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Keith Johnson < keithbjohn...@comcast.net > wrote: In the last few years, I bought a house, lost my mother, my wife's mother, my sister has fought two bouts with cancer, I got a boss I despised at my old job, then lost that job because of him, spent most of a year unemployed, helped my older brother convalesce from back surgery, and had to deal with a diagnosis of Type 2 diabetes. Not to be depressing and all, but there were times I was pulled in so many directions, that even my years long Friday night scifi fix suffered. I catch an ep of BSG here, record one there, then just forget or get behind, never to catch back up. Also--and this is really major for me, the original fan of serious scifi--I think the BSG theme started weighing on me a bit. It's a great show with its serious tone, its dark themes. But I noticed that it always seemed i was trying to watch a recording of it at night, and the darkness of the show--literal and figurative--seemed to make me feel a bit down. I guess that's my typically long winded way of saying it was a bit heavy for me during times when i have dealt with a lot of emotional stress. Again, that's unheard for me. I kept up on the Stargates, Star Trek reruns, etc., but never got back to BSG. I think I'm at a point where I'm ready to catch up now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey de Morsella" < tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 6:47:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: 5 Reasons Caprica Is The Season's Most Promising New SF Series Had I known what I know now, I probably would not have seen the Finale. Why did you miss the finale? You were one season behind right? You will probably like Caprica, because you do not have the bitter aftertaste of the finale. Lucky you. I think it’s a pretty good show. I’m a fan of Esai Morales and Eric Stolze, and they put some effort into this. Moore is not attached, as far as I know. So, despite its origins, I hope it does well Speaking of Enterprise. One storyline that surprised me in its depth was the ongoing saga with the Andorians and The captain’s evolving relationship with their leader. I really liked that From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:21 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 5 Reasons Caprica Is The Season's Most Promising New SF Series I still haven't seen the BSG finale, so maybe I'll be immune? Caprica is being shown again tonight at 11 pm EST, right after a four hour marathon of "Enterprise". The first half of that is the unfortunate time travel saga after the defeat of the Xindi, where the crew is blown back in time to a Nazi/alien occupied NYC. The second half is the good ep when Phlox is kidnapped by the Klingons in order to cure a mutated strain of the Augment DNA, which is changing its victims into the more human looking klingons of Kirk's early years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracey de Morsella" < tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:16:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Re: 5 Reasons Caprica Is The Season's Most Promising New SF Series I think I might watch it. They have showed it like 15 times this week and even though I saw the DVD, I checked out the last 30 minutes and it was really good. That being said, I have a visceral response to anything remotely related to BSG and it takes a lot for me to set it aside. I went months before I saw Moore's Space show. I think there are a lot of people who feel intense negative feeling regarding BSG after being big fans. I wonder how that is going to impact on ratings? -----Original Message----- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:36 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: 5 Reasons Caprica Is The Season's Most Promising New SF Series Three. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , Martin Baxter <truthseeker...@...> wrote: > > > That's two of us, Bosco. > > "If all the world's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: ironpi...@... > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:51:13 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] 5 Reasons Caprica Is The Season's Most Promising New SF Series > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BSG ending was unforgivable. I'm boycotting this on prinicple alone. > > B > > --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Tracey de Morsella <tdli...@...> wrote: > > From: Tracey de Morsella <tdli...@...> > Subject: [scifinoir2] 5 Reasons Caprica Is The Season's Most Promising New SF Series > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com , "'Cinq'" <cinque3...@...>, "'glenn'" <ggs...@...> > Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 3:11 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think. I'm still smarting > from BSG and a little put off that this is an original story that was blended > into BSG to piggyback off of its success. But I do like it > > 5 > Reasons Caprica Is The Season's Most Promising New SF Series > > This Friday brings the first episode of Battlestar Galactica > spinoff Caprica, a noir-scifi drama set on the planet Caprica 58 years > before the cylons nuke it into oblivion. Based on the pilot, we think this > series could become a classic. > > > Of course there are many reasons Caprica might fail, not the least > of which would be poor audience ratings. Many fans of BSG are still smarting > from that series' disappointing conclusion, and are predicting that Caprica > might take an abrupt nosedive into lameness. But the current facts are these: Caprica > is a completely different series, and based on what we've seen so far, it is > the coolest new SF show on the air. Here are five reasons why. > > > 1. Intriguing, thoughtful worldbuilding > > As I wrote > a couple of weeks ago, the worldbuilding that went into creating Caprica City > and the culture of Caprica is simply superb. We're introduced to a > culture where paganism is mainstream and sexual mores are extremely liberal, > but immigrants still suffer discrimination and monotheists are outcasts. Unlike > most SF shows, where worldbuilding is often something like "everything is > the same except the technology is better," Caprica challenges us > to imagine a society radically different from our own. Also, the concept design > of the city - which was shown off to great effect in the broadcast version of > the pilot - is breathtaking. The futuristic technology isn't bad either. > > > 2. A "birth of AI" story that feels original > > A lot of contemporary science fiction, from the Terminator franchise to Star > Trek: The Next Generation, deals with what happens when we finally create AI. > Will it rise up and destroy us ala Skynet or will it nerdily attempt to fit > into human society ala Data? We've seen dozens of vengeful bots and dorky AIs, > but a virtual religious zealot computer genius teen trapped inside the body of > a killing machine made by her manipulative zillionaire father? Not only is the > premise fresh, but so are a lot of the emotional and ethical issues it stirs > up. > > > 3. The Adama family > > Rarely has a family unit in science fiction been as interesting as the Adamas > seem to be in Caprica. Trapped between two cultures, straddling the > line between criminality and respectability, Joseph Adama is a character who > has problems I want to know more about. Plus his brother Sam, a smalltime > gangster with a heart of gold, is another guy I want to know better. I'm sold > on the idea of gangsters on another planet. > > > 4. Excellent acting > > With Essai Morales and Eric Stolz as our leads Joseph Adama and Daniel > Graystone, it goes without saying that the acting in this show is going to > rock. (There was also a lot of terrific acting in BSG, so Caprica > maintains the quality of this aspect of the franchise.) Sasha Roiz as Sam Adama > is already terrific, as is Magda Apanowicz as Zoe Graystone's friend Lacy. > Alessandra Torresani is probably the weakest link as Zoe - she's a little > one-note - but she could improve over time. Given that this show hinges on > personal drama as well as epic SF storytelling, it's crucial that the leads be > able to show us subtle emotion and conflict - and damn, they are delivering. In > the pilot, Stolz does a perfect job embodying a guy who is incredibly > manipulative while also being sincere. > > > 5. Drama that depends on science fictional plot points, but isn't > completely focused on them > > I already suggested that drama is one of this show's strong points. One of the > ways Caprica has already become a standout this season is that it manages to > give us human drama of the sort we might expect on The Wire, while also never > losing sight of the fact that its plot arc is centered on something basically > science fictional. This is a series about how two new technologies - the > holoband and the cylon - come together to create artificial life. And much of > the human drama hinges on these technologies as well. In other words, this is > fiction fueled by drama and science, which is a rare and awesome thing. > > > Who knows where the show will wind up, but for these reasons alone I think > it's worth tuning in Friday for the first episode. > > > > > Send an email to Annalee Newitz, the author of this post, > at anna...@io9. com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ > ------------------------------------ Post your SciFiNoir Profile at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/app/peoplemap2/entry/add?fmvn=mapYa hoo! Groups Links -- Celebrating 10 years of bringing diversity to perversity! 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