Makes sense. If felt like that. Too bad. Both films would have worked better as separate entities then as one film.
So what do you think about the new plan? -----Original Message----- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:37 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Riddick 3 Is On Its Way Part of the problem with Chronicles was that it was two movies of story crammed into one film. Twohy and Diesel wanted to do a trilogy and when the suits balked they ended up cramming too much material into one movie. So the Riddick on the run, events on the prison planet and intro of the Necros was the first movie, the later events were the second film and the quest into the Underverse and Necromonger backstory would have been the third. I wonder if this movie fits into that original plan. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@...> wrote: > > Misreading, I always post as I work and try to rush to get back to work, > leading to a garbling of my posts. I agree that they do try to drive what > they want the public to want, instead of what it might really want > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Aubrey Leatherwood > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:19 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > > > I don't know if you mean to type "misleading the tea leaves" instead of > "misreading the tea leaves", Tracey, but on purpose or not, I loved that > turn of phrase and it seems more like the industry, y'know driving what the > audience wants instead of deriving it. > > Aubrey Leatherwood > <http://www.aubreyleatherwood.com/> www.aubreyleatherwood.com > <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918> FaceBook * > <http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood> MySpace > Dime <http://www.king-cart.com/Phaze/product=Dime/exact_match=exact> > Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? > <http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html> Imperfection > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > <http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.html> > The People You Know, The Sex They Have > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0 > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: tdli...@... > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:58:17 -0800 > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > I think they are misleading the tea leaves. The second movie didn't work in > terms of box office , but I do not thing they understand why it did not work > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Keith Johnson > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 3:33 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > > > > > Good point, but I agree with you. I don't want a return to the world of the > first movie. I think we need to see what the heck he's going to do with the > Necros, now that he's the leader? > Oh--and give Thandie Newton the "Best Overacting in a Melodramatic Role" > award for her performance! The way she was slinking and slithering around, > conniving and planning and pushing her husband forward? Well, that was just > plain funny. Talk about over-the-top! And everytime that scene comes up when > she thinks her husband's killed the Lord Marshall, only to discover it's > Riddick, and then lets out that anguished cry of "Nooooooo!" I 'bout bust a > gut! Carol Burnett couldn't have overdone that scene any better! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@...> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:41:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > Perhaps the prison planet was a comprise to the suits to give them more of > what was similar to the first movie, which made them a boatload of money. I > desolate planet, where the other part of the story introduced new elements. > Personally, I was riveted by the new elements and feat when they say they > are going back to their roots, we will get more prison planet stuff in > Riddick three > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Keith Johnson > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:15 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > > > Yeah, look at the tropes: outer space bounty hunters...a prison planet with > violent temperature extremes, giving us all that "outrun the deadly > sunlight" scenes...the dirty, sweaty, crooked prison guards on the > take...crazy outre prison dogs (looking like a Klingon Targ) running around > menacing the inmates....the hero having to fight the cons-- > every time I watch the movie (and I really like the movie) this scene takes > me out of the movie. I've seen this done so much with everyone from Van > damme to Lundgren, to Christopher Lambert. > But the other storyline, ah, that is amazing! I mean, when I first saw the > trailers in teh theatre, and heard great actress Dame Judy Dench speaking, i > was intrigued! That shot of Dench floating in and out of physicality, was > cool and magical. And the first approach of the Necros, what appeared to be > a comet approaching, was chilling. The site of those giant statues, towering > hundreds of feet above devastated landscapes, disgorging fighting ships, had > me literally on the edge of my seat. Everytime I watch the movie--and I > watch it every tme TNT or FX airs it--I get swept up in that grander story, > only to get disappointed with the prison planet stuff, and the abbreviated > time spent in the Necro courts. I believe the intrigues and dynastic stories > they were trying to tell with the Lord Marshall and Thandie Newton and her > husband could have been fleshed out, and more satisfying, with more time > given to them. Instead they're a bit cartoonish and not satisfying. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@...> > To: scifino...@... > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:54:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > I agree about the prison planet arc being a distraction from the main story. > That could have been a separate story > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Keith Johnson > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:48 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > > > I liked the second, but constantly get disappointed at how it missed its > potential. The trailers for that film had "Epic" written all over them. Some > of the concepts are amazing, sweeping: The Necromonger forces, those giant > statues they landed on planets, the whole strange holy war thing. Great > stuff, should have resulted in a film as impressive as LOTR. But too much > time was wasted on standard scifi cliches, like the whole prison planet > thing, and not enough time actually with the Necros. Just missed the mark, > and I've always wanted a return to that world to see it done right. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C.W. Badie" <astromancer2...@...> > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:46:49 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > > Gosh....I guess I'm the only one that did NOT like the second movie... > > "Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet" > From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. Badie > > --- On Sat, 2/13/10, Tracey de Morsella <tdli...@...> > wrote: > > > From: Tracey de Morsella <tdli...@...> > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 2:48 PM > > > > No you misunderstood. My puritanical sensibilities were shocked about your > "Maybe I'm distracted by the regions below the neck.' > > > > I never noticed such things, I was drawn to the character's cerebral > prowess. ( I typed that with a straight face) > > > > > > However, I agree with you about both movies. I liked the universe that they > created in Riddick > > > > From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On > Behalf Of Aubrey Leatherwood > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:24 AM > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > > > Just sayin' Tracey, no resemblance in that area :) I am really excited that > the movie is greenlit, although I'm conflicted about the return to Pitch > Black atmosphere. I love that movie and it's small quarters grit, but I love > Chronicles for its bigness and hubris. Hmmm, whatever it turns out to be, > I'm sure I will see it. > > Aubrey Leatherwood > <http://www..aubreyleatherwood.com/> www.aubreyleatherwo od.com > <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918> FaceBook * > <http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood> MySpace > Dime <http://www.king-cart.com/Phaze/product=Dime/exact_match=exact> > Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? > <http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection.html> Imperfection > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love... and perfect sex. > > <http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have.....html> > The People You Know, The Sex They Have > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > From: tdli...@multicultur aladvantage. com > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:17:45 -0800 > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > Oh my.. > > > > From: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@ yahoogroups. com] On > Behalf Of Aubrey Leatherwood > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:00 AM > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > > > I get the similarity. The nose, the mouth, but I've never naturally made > that connection. > > Aubrey Leatherwood > www.aubreyleatherwo od.com <http://www..aubreyleatherwood.com/> > FaceBook <http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1400087918> * MySpace > <http://www.myspace.com/aubreymleatherwood> > Dime <http://www.king-cart.com/Phaze/product=Dime/exact_match=exact> > Can Nicole resist the call of the stage or the call of her heart? > <http://www.lyricalpress.com/imperfection..html> Imperfection > A tale of perfect commitment, perfect love.... and perfect sex. > > <http://www.lyricalpress.com/the_people_you_know_the_sex_they_have......html > > The People You Know, The Sex They Have > ROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008 > CAPA and PSYCHE AWARD NOMINEE FOR 2009 > ISBN: 978-0-9818905- 0-0 > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > To: scifino...@yahoogro ups.com > From: astromancer2002@ yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 01:56:17 -0800 > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Riddick 3 Is On Its Way > > > > > This is a question that I've been dying to ask....Does Vin Diesel remind any > of you of Jose Ferrer? > > "Such music flows on the Fringe, and no one can resist singing to Scarlet" > From "THE SIDE STREET CHRONICLES" by C.W. 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