You didn't like "The Dark Knight"? Is that because it was a bit long and could have used some editing, or did you just dislike the overall thing? The one complain I have about the Dark Knight--two actually--were the camera work (way too fast in fight scenes) and slight characterizations of Bruce Wayne/Batman. I tend to like Wayne as a bit grimmer when alone (not playing to the masses). Nolan's Bruce Wayne is a bit more "normal" or "balanced". Not a bad thing, very subtle. An example: In "Batman Returns", with Michael Keaton, there's a scene where the Bat signal is shown, and an elaborate system atop Wayne Manor alerts Wayne. When we see Wayne, he's literally sitting in the dark, just brooding. Nolan's way is ever so slightly less brooding than that. In "The Dark Knight", he told Alfred "I wanted to inspire the people of Gotham". I've never seen Wayne as wanting to inspire the people of Gotham first and foremost, but, rather, to defeat and cow criminals, with people feeling safe as a nice byproduct.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelwyn" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 12:48:52 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception I understood you were going to see "Inception," today. I was anticipating your reaction. Although, since you LOVE "The Dark Knight," which I do not, you may, indeed, love "Inception." I am in convo with someone on another list who has loved everything Nolan has done since "Momento." I LIKE "Momento" and I LOVE "Inception," but I HATE "Insomnia." I sit corrected regarding your take on "The Matrix." I believe I am correct regarding Bosco's take, however. In either case, I take solace in the fact that even when I am wrong I was born Wright. ~rave! --- In [email protected] , Keith Johnson <keithbjohn...@...> wrote: > > Dude, put on your reading glasses! :) > > I haven't even *seen* "Inception" yet. Like i said, I am looking forward to > seeing it, and am curious to compare glowing reviews against Bosco's more > measured assessment. As for "The Matrix", no your memory doesn't serve well > at all. I loved the Matrix. Indeed, I'm one of the few who loves the second > and third Matrix films. So much of the mainstream public who was pulled into > the first film more for the innovative FX and action, bailed as the Wachowski > brothers moved more into philosophy and spiritualism. Hence, the sequels are > almost legendary as examples of a franchise's quality diminishing, but no, I > wasn't on that boat. I loved all three flicks. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kelwyn" <ravena...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, September 5, 2010 11:10:23 AM > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Finally Saw Inception > > > > > > > I am roping off the Keith Johnson/Bosco Bosco curmudgeon section of the > theater (not that anything is wrong with that). If memory serves me correctly > both of you were in the same (wrong) camp regarding the first Matrix movie - > and, for many of the same reasons. > > As an old (former) friend once told me: "There is no accounting for taste - > AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY!" > > You can both be right and still be wrong. I recently saw "The Hangover" and I > don't get it. It is stupid, pointlessly violent, (racist even) - but not > funny. Millions beg to disagree with me. > > You two gentlemen obviously have both taste and erudition so I will just > chalk this up to different strokes for different folks. > > ~rave! > > --- In [email protected] , Keith Johnson <KeithBJohnson@> wrote: > > > > I plan to see it later today, having been late to the party as well. I'm > > looking forward to it, based on your take, to compare against the hype. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bosco Bosco" <ironpigs3@> > > To: "Sci Fi Noir" < [email protected] > > > Sent: Saturday, September 4, 2010 11:44:59 PM > > Subject: [scifinoir2] Finally Saw Inception > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots of cool visual effects and technical complexities. It turns out the > > tech complexities are mostly irrelevant. In fact the entire dreaming and > > reality part of the story is pretty much pointless. It's a basically a sci > > fi twist on some really old themes. The sci fi part is really fun but those > > old themes have been conquered by better men with better skills both in > > director's chair and in front of the camera. I would hazard a guess that > > beyond some simple nostalgia in a few years no one will remember this one > > or care about it. It won't hold up. You can boil the entire movie down to > > father issues and regret issues and both have been done better and more > > intelligently. I know I'm late to the party and I'm clearly old because I > > don't find the hype accurate but I figured I would weigh in anyway > > > > Bosco > > >
