Sorry, I just saw that your submission is on Melange.

I think the proposal could use some discussion on what issues might be
faced.  Many people here have expressed concerns about including "deep
stuff", the difficulty to have sensible defaults, the difficulty to
having a general-purpose efficient implementation that can be used on
different domains without hacking the code.  In the very simple RBM,
the example is still unsatisfactory because it is hard to show off the
algorithm on too small a dataset.  This might be even trickier with
deeper things.

In tuning a good neural model some know-how and tricks are needed,
many times you need to look over the training process and measure
statistics.  It would be useful to describe this kind of difficulties
and how we might be able to avoid them, what kind of hyperparameter
heuristics / initialization should be used, etc.  It is early to go
into it too deeply (pun intended) but I think the proposal can benefit
by your embracing the skeptic side.

Hope this helps,
Vlad


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Vlad Niculae <zephy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Issam,
>
> The deadline is fast approaching.  How is your proposal going? Could
> you share a version so we can give some feedback?
>
> Yours,
> Vlad
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 3:57 AM, amir rahimi <noname01....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry, I didn't see Andy's note ;)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:23 PM, amir rahimi <noname01....@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I recommend Theano if you want to use python with GPU for deep learning.
>>> It is tightly integrated with numpy....
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Amir
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Wei LI <kuant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> @Andy What do you mean by "blackbox" algorithm? Does that mean something
>>>> similar to pylearn2?
>>>>
>>>> @Issam, It seems to me that scalablity is a key factor to train deep
>>>> models and make them work. Do you have any suggestion how to make it
>>>> scalable while still fits in sklearn framework? I think sklearn cannot
>>>> supports GPU easily. I wanna know is training a deep model for a mid-level
>>>> scale(maybe like cifar?) painful on CPU only with numpy?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Wei
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Andreas Mueller
>>>> <amuel...@ais.uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Issam.
>>>>> Thank you for your interest. Have you looked at the
>>>>> MLP and RBM pull requests that are currently open?
>>>>> How would your project relate to those?
>>>>>
>>>>> A real problem is that we don't want to replicate theano
>>>>> and rather have a somewhat "black box" algorithm that people can
>>>>> apply....
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/18/2013 06:07 PM, Issam wrote:
>>>>> > Hi scikit,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Here I am proposing to work on deep learning topic for GSOC 2013. Deep
>>>>> > learning is a relatively new research area that  is progressing fast
>>>>> > with a lot of potential for contributions. It involves an intersting
>>>>> > idea by trying to imitate the brain, as it uses many levels (hidden
>>>>> > layers) of processing. Where the levels are at decreasing order of
>>>>> > abstractions!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In this project, I'm planning to work on each step carefully, first I
>>>>> > look into "Deep Boltzmann machines",  then "Deep belief
>>>>> > networks","Deep
>>>>> > auto-encoders", "Stacked denoising auto-encoders", and more. I could
>>>>> > create a complete plan for this, once I get your feedback :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I have been involved in quite a number of machine learning projects,
>>>>> > from dealing with imbalanced datasets (software quality prediction),
>>>>> > to
>>>>> > XML classification, from recognizing gender out of handwriting, to
>>>>> > breast cancer prediction using mammograms. I'm in my second semester
>>>>> > as
>>>>> > a graduate student (MSc), and machine learning is my research area. My
>>>>> > thesis would involve deep learning, which i will apply on
>>>>> > bioinformatics
>>>>> > and face recognition.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I would be more than happy to work with a mentor on this!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thank you!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best regards,
>>>>> > --Issam Laradji
>>>>> >
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