On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Andy <t3k...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  You give the roc_auc_score the result of "predict". You should give it
> the result of "predict_proba".
>
> This came up already quite a bit, not sure how we can avoid people making
> this mistake.
>

We can encourage people to use the scorer API more. But we need to
strengthen the API and improve the documentation.

# We still haven't fixed the problem with regressors and decision_function.

Mathieu


>
>
>
> On 02/19/2015 04:56 AM, Tim Head wrote:
>
> Hi Gilles,
>
> On Thu Feb 19 2015 at 8:35:35 AM Gilles Louppe <g.lou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> By default, cross_val_score uses on StratifiedKFold(shuffle=False) to
>> create the train/test folds while train_test_split uses ShuffleSplit.
>> The discrepancy you observe might therefore come from either
>> shuffling, the stratification of the labels or both of them.
>>
>> Can you set the CV parameter in cross_val_score to
>> - ShuffleSplit(n_folds=3, shuffle=True)
>> - ShuffleSplit(n_folds=3, shuffle=False)
>> - StratifiedKFold(n_folds=3, shuffle=True)
>> - StratifiedKFold(n_folds=3, shuffle=False)
>> and then try to determine in which cases scores are consistent?
>>
>>
>    The two classes are pretty balanced ("mean" label value = 0.529 with
> labels 0 and 1) so naively the stratification should not change anything.
>
>  Below what I get for four options I tried:
>
>  cv=3
> [ 0.77333168 0.77171963 0.77402341]
> ------------------------------------------
> cv=ShuffleSplit(670000, n_iter=3, test_size=0.33, random_state=None)
> [ 0.7745969 0.77283909 0.77140412]
> ------------------------------------------
> cv=sklearn.cross_validation.KFold(n=670000, n_folds=3, shuffle=False,
> random_state=None)
> [ 0.77326581 0.77155045 0.77374548]
>  ------------------------------------------
>  cv=sklearn.cross_validation.KFold(n=670000, n_folds=3, shuffle=True,
> random_state=None)
> [ 0.77298131 0.77332662 0.77225896]
> ------------------------------------------
>
>  Conclusion they all give the same answer, which is what I'd expect given
> that the dataset is balanced and already in random order :-/ and still
> splitting X_dev "by hand" with train_test_split() gives me a different
> answer.
>
>  For the moment I think there must be an (obvious) bug in my script that
> I need to find.
>
>  T
>   p.s I posted a minimal script here
> https://gist.github.com/betatim/a31777c36e3b4b6f21bb it uses the first
> million samples from this dataset which is quite large:
> http://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/datasets/HIGGS
>
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