Page Nomenclature: I am new to Scribus, and to this mailing list, but not to DTP. I may be entereing this discussion in the middle, so if I am my apologies.
I have been following the discussion on page nomenclature. I also use Adobe InDesign, Adobe FrameMaker, OpenOffice Writer and Microsoft Word. I have, in the past--a long time ago--used Quark. Here is my understanding of the terms under discussion: Template: a collection of page (including master pages), paragraph and character formatting commands. A template is used for documents, and can include graphics. A template is designed to improve productivity when creating repetitive documents (for example, a legal brief or a newsletter, as only two examples). Master Page: a collection of paragraph and character formatting commands. A master page can also included graphics, but it is designed to protect repetitive design elements within a document whether the document is used repetitively (such as a newsletter) or not. A document may have multiple master pages. These distinctions hold true for InDesign and FrameMaker (at least in the US versions). It is my impression (I may be wrong), that this terminology has become a defacto standard (again, in the US). I realize that these distinctions are somewhat blurred with the word processors (Word and Writer), as they use "Master Documents" and/or Templates and do not have an equivalent of Master Page. My suggestion is that this terminology be retained; that is, do not substitute new terms. I expect both users and commercial printers will appreciate the consistent terminology. On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Gregory Pittman <gpittman at iglou.com> wrote: > hjh at mail.fsub.de wrote: > > - 'Master pages' = ? - continued, but more general - > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > Hedley, developers and users: > > > > > > A nomenclature is important for easy understanding. I suggest : > > > > Document: In comparison: > > Scribus OpenOffice > > English - German English - German > > > > templates - Vorlage Templates - > Dokumentenvorlage > > > > > > Mastering the documents: > > > > masters - Matrizen Styles+Formating - Formatvorlagen > > > > page masters - Seitenmatrizen page styles - Seitenvorlagen > > paragraph masters - Absatzmatrizen paragrah styles - Absatzvorlagen > > line masters - Zeilenmatrizen > > list styles - Listenvorlagen > > character styles - Zeichenvorlagen > > frame styles - Rahmenvorlagen > > > > "master" is the perfect English term. The master masters a page, a > paragraph, > > etc.The Webster (edition 1994) says: > > 3: controlling the operation of other mechanism (e.g. master cylinder) > > 4: establishing a standard for reference (e.g. master gauge). > > > > > > To use "page master" instead of "master page" stresses, what the > function > > is, namely "mastering". > > > > > Page master or master page, I think, may be a bit overstated. Perhaps > Master Layer might be better, since that is closer to what it is - a > separate layer over which other content can be placed. Pages are made up > of one or more layers. > > "master" means "ruling". There is no equivalent in German, I think, > which > > could we used here. In German "Mutter" (mother) is a possible solution, > which > > means "stems from" (e.g. Mutterbaum, Mutterpflanze). In the printing > trade > > there are in the German nomenclature two terms, that stem from Latin > "mater", > > (Mutter, mother): > > > > 1. Mater = a mould for a founding patterns for printing > > It was positive, as the printing block had to be negativ. > > > > 2. Matrize = a stencil, positive, the ink was pressed through or > > those, where the printing colour was imposed on the back > > and then used with a kind of alcohol for copying > > > > These techniques are gone. Laser copies or digital (offset) printing we > use > > instead. But we could save the term by using it. > > > > Of course we could use the same terms as OpenOffice. But scribus is a > > professional tool and therefore we might / should use special terms. > > > > But anyway - "Musterseiten", the word I started off, is not an adequate > > term: Either "Seitenvorlagen" oder -preferred- "Seitenmatrizen". > > > > > > Does this mail reach the developers, too? I think, they are important > > in coining terms. > > > At the moment, our resident linguist Christoph Sch?fer is a bit > disconnected due to computer problems. I would be interested in what he > has to say about all this. At this point, we need to make changes > carefully and as a whole somewhat reluctantly to avoid confusing the > users. > > These are all good thoughts, though. Thank you. > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > scribus mailing list > scribus at lists.scribus.info > http://lists.scribus.info/mailman/listinfo/scribus > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.scribus.info/pipermail/scribus/attachments/20080512/445714c9/attachment.htm
