Hi Curtis, Use Insert-V to open Jaws Quick Settings in any window and you'll find a tree view where you can set auto-read functionality, including Touch Cursor and a whole lot more.
Hth, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Scripting [mailto:scripting-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Scripting Sent: May 31, 2017 4:14 AM To: Doug Lee <doug....@ssbbartgroup.com>; Window-Eyes Scripting List <scripting@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: migrating apps and, hey, I use Becky, and every time I "open" any message, window-eyes auto reads the pertinent lines of the message automatically, NVDA does with references to headers which window-eyes ignores by default, and JFW, and Becky does not auto read at all. I wish it did! and did it like window-eyes, and it seems it could be an easy fix for some talented individual who knows what I am referring too about the auto-read capability of window-eyes of the 24 or so lines of the first page of the Becky! mail message. Reads it like a "field" I think, not sure. THANKS! -- Curtis Delzer, H.S. WB6HEF Rialto, CA. <curtis1...@verizon.net> On Tue, 30 May 2017 16:32:10 -0400 Doug Lee via Scripting <scripting@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Speaking as a professional JAWS scripter, I admit I'm surprised to hear you > needed 22 files for what sounds like a simple script. Typically you would > have these: > > - A jss file, which compiles to a jsb file, for the code itself. We'll count > that as two. You type your code into the jss file and the JAWS Script Manager > makes the jsb file when you compile it. > - A jsd file for the help text for the scripts. Handled automatically by the > JAWS Script Manager in many cases. > - A jkm file for key mappings. Handled automatically by the Script Manager in > many cases. > > You may also include a jcf file for configuration options and/or a jdf file > for dictionary entries, though I doubt your script set for Window-Eyes had > the latter. If you want to name graphic icons, you could use a jgf file. > Frames, though rarely used these days, would involve a jff and a jfd file; > but again, I doubt those would be involved in your project. > > I'm still a ways from 22. :-) > > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 04:20:46PM -0400, Tom Kingston via Scripting wrote: > JAWS scripting is a proprietary mish mash of this that the other and his > brother. So there's no such thing as real world resources such as with Python. > I wrote the Window-Eyes script for Reaper and was then surprised to find that > the JAWS script was not locked up. So I downloaded it and took a quick look. I > couldn't believe that what I did in one small VBS file, an XML file, a set > file, and a we file required 22 files to be done in JAWS. > Needless to say, I have no interest in learning a proprietary scripting > method. And I suspect it will probably seem nonsensical to a real programmer's > mind. But that's just speculation. It comes from an experience years ago when > a friend of mine wanted to learn JAWS scripting. Knowing nothing about it I > assumed that at least the common denominators of virtually all programming > languages would apply. Boy was I wrong. My understanding is that it has become > at least somewhat more conventional. But unless all else fails it's not a mess > I wish to drown in. > Regards, > Tom > > > On 5/30/2017 10:54 AM, Dennis Long via Scripting wrote: > > What about scripting for Jaws? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scripting > > [mailto:scripting-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On > > Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn via Scripting > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:53 AM > > To: Chip Orange; Window-Eyes Scripting List > > Subject: Re: migrating apps > > > > Mr Lee of NVAccess / NVDA proposed on twitter yesterday having a one day > > class on scripting NVDA. I guess it is time to learn Python. Anybody > > interested in doing a set of regular discussions like Chip did way back to > > migrate our common knowledge into NVDA scripting knowledge? I wonder how > > difficult it would be to have an NVDA that emulates the favorite parts of > > WindowEyes. I expect the hardest part considering that NVDA doesn't appear > > to have a virtual mode would be the User Windows functions but then it seems > > that WindowEyes wasn't supporting that very aggressively. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Jonathan Cohn > > > > On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 7:01 PM Chip Orange via Scripting < > > scripting@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > You could look at the possibility of running your app as a Windows > > > VBScript rather than a Window-Eyes VBScript. You'd have to do without > > > the WE dialogs and all the other WE features of scripting which we all > > > used, but if you don't make use of these features very much, you might > > > be able to get a Windows VBScript version to run. If you could, this > > > would be the easiest way to get some apps converted away from WE. > > > > > > VBScript does have some very basic input and output commands (you can > > > display a dialog and get a string response from the user), this could > > > possibly be enough for your needs. It has no equivalents to MSAA or > > > Windows etc., so nothing which assisted you with accessibility is > > > likely to run. > > > > > > Of course, Window-Eyes will continue to run for some indefinite amount > > > of time ... and I'd be glad to share the source code to Remind Me > > > Where with anyone who'd like to try tinkering with it while it does. > > > If you wanted to keep something big like it is running, I would guess > > > learning VB.net might be the closest to what you're used to. > > > > > > Like Richard, I feel something like the end of Animal Farm as well. > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > Chip > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Scripting > > > [mailto:scripting-bounces+lists3717=comcast....@lists.window-eyes.com] > > > On Behalf Of David via Scripting > > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:49 AM > > > To: Aaron Smith; Window-Eyes Scripting List > > > Subject: migrating apps > > > > > > I do understand that an app that has been developed under the great > > > scripting capability of WineEyes, will not be possible to simply plug > > > in under Jaws. At least, it is my understanding, that Jaws has its own > > > dedicated scripting system. > > > > > > Still, a number of apps, both officially released and many that I have > > > developed for my personal usage, would be a great miss when migrating. > > > Whenever the migrating will be. Smile. > > > > > > Now, is there a way for me, to make my apps become stand-alone, in the > > > sense that they could be run under any screen reader? That they still > > > would be using features like the UI capabilities and other > > > functionality of for instance GWToolkit? I do understand, that apps > > > that make great usage of, or directly works with internal features of > > > WinEyes, may not be possible to run under any other screen readers, > > > since they won't have any functionality to hook on to. But an app like > > > for instance the "remind me where", that Chip Orange developed, and > > > which base its main functionality on information from the net, and > > > greatly on the UI environment of WinEyes scripting, sould such a > > > program be possible to make go general? Sure I could have thought of a > > > good number of other apps that I have come to rely on, and which would > > > have been great to see under other screen readers. > > > > > > Guess my basic question is, what would I need to do in my app code, to > > > make it possible to run outside the WinEyes environment, if that is at > > > all possible? And if realistic, does there exist any sample code that > > > I can look at, so as to see it done in practicality? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > > > For membership options, visit > > > > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/lis > > > ts3717 > > > %40comcast.net > > > <http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/li > > > sts3717%40comcast.net> > > > . > > > For subscription options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > List archives can be found at > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > > > For membership options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/jon > > > .c.cohn%40gmail.com > > > . > > > For subscription options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > List archives can be found at > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > <http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/attachme > > nts/20170530/13d902d4/attachment.htm> > > _______________________________________________ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/dennisl19 > > 82%40gmail.com. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%40charter.net. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/doug.lee%40ssbbartgroup.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > > -- > Doug Lee, Senior Accessibility Programmer > SSB BART Group (soon to be Level Access) > mailto:doug....@ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, > it was done." --Helen Keller > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com/curtis1014%40verizon.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/scripting-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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