Cool no rush.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Tobias Leich <> wrote:

>  Hi, I tried exporting that machine from virtualbox, but it fails with a
> stupid errormessage that I dont understand.
> You cant access that box from internet, I'm sorry. I'll let you know when
> I got an export of that machine.
> Cheers.
> Am 24.08.2012 18:21, schrieb Kartik Thakore:
> Ok i will twiddle with it. Do you have a freebsd machine I can ssh too? Or
> a vmware image?
> On Aug 24, 2012 4:11 AM, <> wrote:
>> Hi pals!
>> In the last time we did, in my opinion, a big mistake. In test scripts we
>> checked for libpng like: SDL::Config->has('png'). But this didnt ever
>> returned true, Simply because the HAVE_PNG was only set when actually
>> building that lib in SDL. (Note: not Alien::SDL)
>> This ->has() method works pretty fine for stuff like SDL_gfx, since it
>> will return true if we found SDL_gfx*.h. But there was no check for png.h
>> at this stage. So even if we found libpng in system dirs or when we build
>> it on our own, ->has('png') never returned true.
>> I changed the tests so it checks now for libpng in the shlib-hash that we
>> get from Alien::SDL. This hash contains all found/build libs, and their
>> path.
>> And why does it fail then?
>> BSD. LibPNG needs libz to run. Normally you would think that libpng is
>> actually linked against libz, but hey, the BSD ppl dont think that way. I
>> dont know the reasons but they decided to somehow build libpng without
>> linking against libz.
>> when you do: ldd /path/to/ you will get all the dependencies
>> printed as a list. This works pretty fine on most systems, like on our
>> ubuntu's and what not.
>> On OpemBSD it prints an error message that the lib cant be loaded. But if
>> you do LD_PRELOAD_LIBS=/path/to/ ldd /path/to/ it will
>> work. So we have to preload the lib in order libpng will use it.
>> Doing this needs to happen on a very early level. Doing it from within a
>> running perl is to late, even if we load libpng using DynaLoader.
>> The only thing I can think about atm is that we run a perl, load that
>>, and start a child perl process that does the stuff we do now.
>> This problem applies to libpng (needs libz), libtiff (needs libjpeg) and
>> libvorbis (needs libogg).
>> Before YAPC::EU I was working hard on that thing, I guess I can supply a
>> patch in a few days.
>> Another problem that exists right now is that the old G4-Macs dont have a
>> header file we want to use, I will debug that at some point. I dont think
>> that there are so many users with a G4. These fails only come from BinGOs
>> so far.
>> And there are still SDL::Controller(::Interface) fails. But since I dont
>> really understand whats happening there it would be cool if the author (you
>> kathekore ;o) would have a look at it.
>> So far from me, I will write a msg about the YAPC later.
>> See ya and take care,
>> Tobias
>> Zitat von Kartik Thakore <>:
>>  Awesome thanks.
>>> Kartik Thakore
>>> On 2012-08-23, at 9:40 PM, Jeffrey Palmer <>
>>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I think the problem is TIFF support on BSD and Solaris, but FROGGS will
>>> know for sure.
>>> Jeff
>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Kartik Thakore <
>>>  Hey guys,
>>>> It looks like SDL lastest experimental has quite a few bit of fails.
>>>> May I
>>>> get a summary of what the fails are?
>>>> Regards

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