Your taxes will not depend on what state your LLC or S-Corp is in, since
both are "pass-through" vehicles, and just hand the income to you to pay
taxes on. Shopping among states for better tax treatment is for larger
corporations.

I don't believe that's exactly correct when it comes to an S-Corp. I don't
deal with that part of our business, so don't quote me on that, but when I
filed my personal tax, I only paid income tax on my income. (what I gave
myself as a salary)  The rest is dealt at the business level.

- Matt


On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Scott Olmsted <[email protected]> wrote:

>  At 01:19 PM 6/17/2009, you wrote:
>
> A couple thoughts related to 1 & 4:
>
> You can still maintain full control with the LLC, but you gain all the
> benefits of being incorporated.  If you are thinking about getting a lawyer
> involved, that means you are trying to protect yourself.  With the LLC, you
> mitigate personal risk associated with the business.
>
> You should look at setting up shop in Nevada.  Just get a PO box in LV.
>
>
> Having a Nevada presence requires more than a PO Box, but there are
> companies that will supply what you might want for relatively little.
>
> On the other hand, I don't see any advantage. To do business in California,
> you still have to register your Nevada LLC here and pay the $800 annual
> corporate fee. Might as well just set up a California LLC. It's very
> standard these days. I set up one of the first LLC's in California about
> 1994 and I had to educate banks, county personnel, city clerks, just about
> everyone about just what this LLC thing was. You can get create the
> paperwork you need from books (see Nolo.com), or even from what you find
> online.
>
> An alternative is an S-Corp, there are pros and cons you can find online. I
> think the S-Corp pays lower fees when the gross gets big enough
> ($250,000/yr? $500,000/yr?). I like LLC's because it's so easy to do it all
> yourself, though follow-through with all the steps is important.
>
> Your taxes will not depend on what state your LLC or S-Corp is in, since
> both are "pass-through" vehicles, and just hand the income to you to pay
> taxes on. Shopping among states for better tax treatment is for larger
> corporations.
>
> If you do your books in Quickbooks and your taxes in Turbotax for Business,
> you might never need an accountant, just a bookkeeper, perhaps. But get tax
> advice if you think you need it.
>
> The LLC may give you a little more clout than being a sole proprietor, but
> no one should fool themselves into thinking it represents any sort of real
> protection. If someone wants to sue you, they'll sue your LLC or corporation
> and name you personally in the suit as well. Your attorney can argue to have
> you taken off if you've done things correctly, maintained separate books,
> not mingled personal funds or expenses in there, kept up with what you owe
> the state, etc, but being sued will still cost you, win or lose.
>
> You may want to read up on trademarks at Nolo.com .
>
> Keep asking questions and doing your own research. Asking lawyers is a very
> expensive way to learn and letting them do work you can do is even more
> expensive. Make what seems the best detailed plan you can, including writing
> your own contracts, and then run it all by an attorney in an hour or two and
> let him tell you where it needs fixing. That will keep you out of trouble
> and save you a bundle. That's how attorneys are best used, to keep you out
> of trouble in the first place, and that shouldn't cost very much if you
> prepare.
>
> Scott
>
> P.S. +1 on avoiding employees. You can get almost anything done by a
> contractor. Just follow the rules that keep contractors from being
> classified as employees. But if you have something where someone has to show
> up every day for at least a few hours, you may find hiring an employee
> cheaper. Just plan on them quitting at the worst possible time.
>
>
> Try to avoid employees as long as possible, then you can avoid
> accountants.  You should be able to find consultants that charge a bit more,
> but it's a good thing for you.
>
> --
>
> 2 & 3
>
> Not sure about the trademarks... What's insurance? Be risk adverse.
>
> --Dan
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Erik Pukinskis <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey friends,
> I am starting a little web business, and since I've started interacting
> with customers it's time for me to legally get off the ground.
> Unfortunately, I don't have any expertise with this, beyond what I've
> learned from teh internets, and I could use some help.
> First, can anyone recommend a good, affordable, web-savvy San Diego small
> business lawyer?  And an accountant?
> Otherwise, does anyone know anything about these things....
> 1) Should I file for my permits in CA or in somewhere with nicer tax laws,
> like Delaware?  If I and my employees are working from San Diego, does
> that just mean I have to register as a business here? With city, county,
> etc?
> 2) What international trademark classes do people use for the trademarks
> for web business?  My site is providing instructional materials, but I'm
> also mailing people products and printed guides. I'll be building an
> iPhone app too.  Should I just drop $1200 and cover all my bases, or can I
> get by with a trademark under one $300 class?
> 3) What do people recommend for business insurance?  And where do you get
> it?
> 4) I'm leaning towards a Sole Proprietorship, since I want to maintain full
> control and I think the liability will be minimal.  Has anyone done this?
> Are there any pitfalls?  Should I look more closely at an LLC?
> It seems like I'm definitely going to need a lawyer soon enough, but maybe
> I can get by for a while without it.  I'm supporting the business out of
> pocket and am trying to keep expenses to a minimum.
> Love, Erik
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
>

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