[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-24 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #54 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-24 02:09 ---
This is a duplicate of 9614.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-20 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #49 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-20 05:45 ---
No, it should be reverted for 2.6.25 - it causes a clear functional regression,
regardless of whether or not it worked by design or accident before.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-20 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #50 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-20 06:35 ---
Hmm, AFAIK even in the last RC fixing is preferred over reverting.
And patch from comment #30 fixes the issue.

If the patch is reverted, the driver should be marked experimental or broken,
that's what it is then: known broken.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-20 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #51 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-20 06:45 ---
BTW, I explained this whole ThinkPad IGD problem with the ACPI video driver
more than 4 months ago:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg10476.html
(Take the last paragraph).


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-20 Thread bugme-daemon
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9995





--- Comment #52 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-20 08:54 ---
(In reply to comment #50)
 Hmm, AFAIK even in the last RC fixing is preferred over reverting.
...

That's wrong.

Fixing can introduce new regressions.

If reverting makes the kernel not worse than 2.6.24 then reverting is the
preferred solution.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-20 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #53 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-20 15:50 ---
Zhang, this bug scares me a little.  It sounds like the OpRegion based
interface is correctly giving us hotkey notifier events, but not giving us a
way to actually change backlight levels.  Is there a separate set of ACPI
methods we need to use to actually change the backlight brightness?  Are we
supposed to use the LBB  BLC_PWM_CTL regs?  Won't that conflict with the
external controller in these machines?

I think you and Hong have tested this on T61s, so I'm curious to hear what
you've found...


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-19 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #36 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 01:22 ---
 (not sure whether out of the box, it must take the right (or say wrong) VID
 device)
That was wrong from myself, it does not use the video device at all (for
brightness switching), therefore it should always work. Henrique said something
about not working brightness_mode=1 in comment #32..., but from Len's and
Lukas' comments it just seem to work, right?


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-19 Thread bugme-daemon
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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-19 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #37 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 01:48 ---
(In reply to comment #36)
 That was wrong from myself, it does not use the video device at all (for
 brightness switching), therefore it should always work. Henrique said 
 something
 about not working brightness_mode=1 in comment #32..., but from Len's and
 Lukas' comments it just seem to work, right?

No, I use brightness_enable=1, I do not use brightness_mode=1. So I cannot tell
the latter works.

Though, I wonder why gnome increases or decreases brightness by 2, not just by
1, but it is most probably userspace issue.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-19 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #38 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 02:04 ---
(In reply to comment #35)
  Using the native mode, if I decrease the brightness to 0, I'm unable to
  return it to any higher value.
 Why do you open a kernel bug, if you know it's X to blame?

the kernel bug was opened due to nonfuctional /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0

 Lukas could you give this a last test, pls. When you load the video driver
 you should get a
 message that brightness control is ignored and it should work out of the box
 (without a param) when loading the thinkpad_acpi driver). Then you could even
 get video output switching on console and with vesafb working instead of
 writing to some arbitrary HW which does not exist.

with the patch #30 I got:
[   11.216611] thinkpad_acpi: Lenovo ThinkPad found. Taking control over
brightness switching

so it seems it works even if X.org uses the kernel method instead of native
one.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-19 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #39 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 06:08 ---
Better take off the kid gloves.

1. NVidia-GPU-based thinkpads are NOT Intel-GPU-based thinkpads. DO NOT CONFUSE
WHAT IS SAID ABOUT ONE WITH THE OTHER. EVER.

2. *IF* you have an Intel GPU (*NOT* AN NVIDIA OR ATI GPU), FIX X.org. 
It must either be completely out of the way, or working.  And right now X.org
is only completely out of the way if it is NOT running.

3. *IF* AND ONLY *IF* thinkpad-acpi brightness_mode=1 *can* control your
backlight, you can bypass X.org, ACPI and the BIOS completely and talk
semi-directly to the backlight hardware.  In that case, you might be able to
work around issues in ACPI video and X.org using thinkpad-acpi.   I DOUBT THIS
HOLDS TRUE FOR ANY *61 THINKPAD.

(if it is not clear yet: thinkpad-acpi calls the same crap ACPI video
ultimately uses in a ThinkPad, unless it is in brightness_mode=1.  It can be
used to check if something hosed ACPI video (e.g. X.org), because if neither
thinkpad-acpi nor ACPI video can change brightness, SOMETHING blocked the
ThinkPad BIOS itself).

Now, about how to fix it.

Can we, for once, stop destroying any possibility of fixing backlight support
and actually start fixing the underlying BUGS instead of band-aiding over it
please?  Forget the last minute *anythings*.  Fix the real bugs and address
the design issues, because the haphazard way this was done till in kernel,
distros and X.org created a LOT of design incompatibilities between them.

ACPI Video and X.org HAVE to talk to each other.  X.org must be able to tell
ACPI Video driver to go into an I'm not here mode, where it just acts as an
ACPI notify-ACPI event repeater.  And X.org is NOT to do *anything* to
backlight hardware registers UNLESS it disabled ACPI video first (if it is
loaded).

X.org hardware drivers needs to be fixed, if they are not controlling backlight
properly.  Until X.org is fixed, the user gets broken backlight.  Don't work
around it breaking things further in the kernel side, especially while X.org
still doesn't know how to tell the kernel to butt off, nor the kernel knows how
to be told to go away.  Fix the bug WHERE IT REALLY IS.

ACPI video, if it is indeed not working, needs to be fixed.  BUT YOU WILL NEVER
KNOW whether it is working right or not WHILE YOU HAVE X.org RUNNING.

After the above is done, we have a chance of actually doing the right thing in
every X.org driver (enable or disable kernel support, use or don't use the
kernel backlight interface).  Then, we will have ACPI video being called to
*change* brightness when it is right to do so, and with exclusive access to the
backlight control.  Or we will have X.org changing the brightness directly in
hardware, and ACPI video will know it must *block* (even for reading!) any
attempts to access the ACPI AML backlight methods.

And *PLEASE* remove ANY AND ALL backlight key control crap on distros that
fucks up thinkpads.  NOTHING in userspace that could be shipped in a distro has
ANY business listening to thinkpad-acpi backlight events *and* *acting* on them
to *CHANGE* any brightness hardware. EVER.  You will either get events you can
use like that through ACPI video, or the thinkpad already did it in firmware.

If you got to know of any backlight key presses through thinkpad-acpi, it can
be used for on-screen-display ONLY.  Anything else is a distro bug from hell. 
And mapping thinkpad-acpi brightness events to KEY_BRIGHTNESS_* or the HAL
equivalent *WILL* *BREAK* *THINGS* because userspace as a rule does NOT know
you really mean that as an on-screen-display event instead of this is an order
for you to change the brightness.

Also, if X.org is acting on the brightness keys by itself (ask X.org upstream
about it, I don't know for sure), DON'T act on them in distro scripts either. 
You will break things just as much, if not MORE than what was done to
thinkpad-acpi.

Does *this* makes things a little more clear? Hmm?

PS: by distros I don't necessarily mean SuSE.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-19 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #40 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 09:34 ---
(In reply to comment #32)
 Current versions of X.org **enforces** this.  It tells the BIOS to stop
 controlling the backlight levels, in a much lower level than even the ACPI
 interface.

Hmm? at least with xf86-video-intel-2.2.1, if a kernel backlight control is
detected (ACPI video or thinkpad_acpi both I think, but I've only tested it
with ACPI video), it disables the native interface and just makes calls to the
kernel interface. I don't know whether it still does any nasty low-level stuff
even in this mode, tho.
This can be changed at runtime to use the native interface, and it uses it by
default if no kernel interface was found, of course.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-19 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #41 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 11:23 ---
If X.org is disabling the native stuff when trying to use the kernel, that's
already something.  It still won't fix all failure modes, though. We really
need to be able to let X.org tell the ACPI video device to block all accesses
to the ACPI AML for backlight control, *including* those through the sysfs
backlight class it exports.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-19 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #42 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 11:29 ---
(In reply to comment #41)

if I understand correctly the intel driver, it *only* saves and restores
backlight values at VT switches. The backlight is controlled by hal daemon
using user space scripts. At least in Ubuntu/Hardy. Therefore there arose
regression as the hal was unable to controll the backlight via acpi_video0
which was the only device in /sys/class/backlight/.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

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--- Comment #43 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 17:44 ---
It also allows one to use xbacklight to control backlight level.

Please check if the Ubuntu HAL config is using xbacklight, or if it is trying
to access sysfs backlight classes directly.

If HAL is being told to touch sysfs directly, there you have first of the root
causes of the breakage.  It won't be the only one.


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--- Comment #44 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 19:54 ---
'hald' runs as a system daemon with dropped priviledges, and doesn't have any
dependency on X, so it can't run xbacklight directly. It would be possible to
have a program running as your user connect to it to control the backlight (or
even x connect directly), but AFAIK nothing does that yet. I'm pretty sure HAL
uses sysfs to enumerate and control backlights currently.
Plus, it is nice to have a way to control the backlight from the command line
on a text console without X running.


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--- Comment #45 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 19:55 ---
(In reply to comment #39)
 Now, about how to fix it.
 ACPI Video and X.org HAVE to talk to each other.  X.org must be able to tell
 ACPI Video driver to go into an I'm not here mode, where it just acts as an
 ACPI notify-ACPI event repeater.  And X.org is NOT to do *anything* to
 backlight hardware registers UNLESS it disabled ACPI video first (if it is
 loaded).
Done. :)
/sys/modules/video/parameters/brightness_switch_enabled can be used to
enable/disable the ACPI video actions upon brightness hotkey events.

 Fix the bug WHERE IT REALLY IS.
 ACPI video, if it is indeed not working, needs to be fixed.  BUT YOU WILL 
 NEVER
 KNOW whether it is working right or not WHILE YOU HAVE X.org RUNNING.
 After the above is done, we have a chance of actually doing the right thing in
 every X.org driver (enable or disable kernel support, use or don't use the
 kernel backlight interface).  Then, we will have ACPI video being called to
 *change* brightness when it is right to do so, and with exclusive access to 
 the
 backlight control.  Or we will have X.org changing the brightness directly in
 hardware, and ACPI video will know it must *block* (even for reading!) any
 attempts to access the ACPI AML backlight methods.
Yes, currently users can still access the ACPI backlight methods via the
backlight sys I/F, even with brightness_switch_enabled=N.
Another switch is needed to control the access via backligh sys I/F.


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--- Comment #46 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 20:00 ---
(In reply to comment #45)
  Or we will have X.org changing the brightness directly in
  hardware, and ACPI video will know it must *block* (even for reading!) any
  attempts to access the ACPI AML backlight methods.
 Yes, currently users can still access the ACPI backlight methods via the
 backlight sys I/F, even with brightness_switch_enabled=N.
 Another switch is needed to control the access via backligh sys I/F.

we don't have this problem for Intel GPUs with IGD OpRegion support.
The AML backlight methods won't change the backlight directly but try to notify
the graphics driver instead. :)


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--- Comment #47 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-19 20:56 ---
The only problem is that we can't trust the AML methods to begin with :-) And
that we soon will need the same functionality on many ATI cards...

IMO, we better just go for the complete job.


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--- Comment #24 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-17 23:02 ---
3fa2cdcc45a0176de15cac9dbf4ed2834ebf8932 reverted from acpi test tree.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-18 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #25 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-18 01:38 ---
0119509c4fbc9adcef1472817fda295334612976 reverted from acpi test tree.

per the comment in bug 9916, it is an earlier version of
3fa2cdcc45a0176de15cac9dbf4ed2834ebf8932 that shouldn't
have been merged.

With these two patches reverted,
/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video1/brightness works fine.
/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness does nothing.

ditto for
/proc/acpi/video/VID1/brightness
/proc/acpi/video/VID/brightness

i notice that video isn't auto-loading like it did in 2.6.24 --
which is perhaps an additional regression.

another issue is that the brightness hot key -- presumably
causing an input event, causes brightness to go to 100%.
Unclear what my FC8 user-space is doing with that event


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-03-18 Thread bugme-daemon
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--- Comment #27 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-18 08:16 ---
(In reply to comment #26)
 Reverting the patch is wrong and breaks other machines.

Does it break any machines where it worked with 2.6.24?

 ACPI video module has not been used much before ACPI autoloading..., this is
 not much of a regression. Better do it properly or we go in circles.
...

If a revert doesn't make things worse than they were in 2.6.24 the right time
for doing it properly is for 2.6.26.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

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--- Comment #28 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-18 09:23 ---
now in Linus' tree as commit 77321e624b64f1e5985a20f3cd16b94c96d0dbb4


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

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--- Comment #29 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-18 09:50 ---
The patch (the reverted one) does not break anything.
Please try the thinkpad driver with:
brightness_enable=1
To be honest I didn't try it myself now, but I am pretty sure it works because
it always worked.

The machine is known broken for the video driver (or say unsupported) it needs
black listing to not be loaded and this can be done in userspace.

You can also use attached patch to be sure thinkpad_acpi does the brightness
switching and video does not.

I also wonder why Henrique, the Thinkpad acpi maintainer is not in CC of this
bug or at least asked.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

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--- Comment #30 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-18 09:54 ---
Created an attachment (id=15332)
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Patch to blacklist thinkpads to use thinkpad_acpi

It's ugly, but it is the correct way to workaround a bug on a specific subset
of machines in last minute.
Breaking all others by registering a driver on a device which doesn't even
exist, is defintely not.
Oh dear, what a mess.
This one is compile tested only.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

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--- Comment #31 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-18 10:18 ---
Either you reopen this one or this one:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9614 (and possibly some others).


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

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--- Comment #32 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-18 14:11 ---
For users of Intel Embedded Graphics on ANY thinkpad that does not respond do
thinkpad-acpi brightness_mode=1 (pure EC control), which includes the T61:

Repeat after me:
 * I am to use X.org native backlight control!
 * I am to use X.org native backlight control!
 * I am to use X.org native backlight control!
 * I am to use X.org native backlight control!...

ad nauseum.

Current versions of X.org **enforces** this.  It tells the BIOS to stop
controlling the backlight levels, in a much lower level than even the ACPI
interface.

Using ACPI won't help.  Using thinkpad-acpi might (and I doubt it), but you are
on your own if X.org decides to not like it and hard-crash your box.

So, use X.org native backlight control on the T61 with Intel graphics.  Thank
you.


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--- Comment #33 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-18 14:13 ---
Err, forgot a note: we still need to blacklist video for those machines if it
is causing extra trouble.

But better see if it isn't a bug in the X.org config that is trying kernel mode
even when it MUST use native mode, because it found the ACPI video-exported
backlight interface.


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--- Comment #34 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-18 14:46 ---
(In reply to comment #33) 
 But better see if it isn't a bug in the X.org config that is trying kernel 
 mode
 even when it MUST use native mode, because it found the ACPI video-exported
 backlight interface.

NO! native mode in X.org is broken. On my T61 with intel graphics, thinkpad
brightness via thinkpad_acpi works OK (kernel 2.6.25-rc4).

Using the native mode, if I decrease the brightness to 0, I'm unable to return
it to any higher value. With kernel mode, this does not happen.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

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--- Comment #23 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-12 19:53 ---
Re: comment #7
Chuck, that URL points to a power-pc report,
which can't possibly be related to this issue
as power-pc doesn't have ACPI.

Re: comment #10
Chuck, 3fa2cdcc45a0176de15cac9dbf4ed2834ebf8932
went in at 2.6.25-rc1 and was not included
in 2.6.24.stable
FC8 only recently started shipping 2.6.24,
why does it include that patch?

38531e6fe51ad5c7dfe72e0e066b5f54bc1921cd
ditto


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

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--- Comment #22 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-11 06:11 ---
This is a regression from 2.6.24 to 2.6.25, so we need a fix now.

If there's no other solution available now a revert seems to be the right
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--- Comment #21 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-10 20:42 ---
This bug can not be fixed until the graphics kernel mode driver can actually
work. 
so we should either wait for the graphics driver to work or revert the patch
3fa2cdcc45a0176de15cac9dbf4ed2834ebf8932.


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--- Comment #20 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-28 19:53 ---
to Thomas:
The problem you described in comment #17 is right.
But I wonder if we need a OSI string to fix it. IMO, DRDY flag is enough to
tell the BIOS is Intel IGD Opregion is supported.


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--- Comment #19 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-26 13:17 ---
For the Comment #14

Yes it gives back /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0
however I could read/write values in the brightness 
and they are even reported by tpd - but they have
no effect on the actual brightness of the display.


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--- Comment #15 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-24 16:16 ---
Regressions list annotation:
Handled-By : Zhang Rui [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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--- Comment #16 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-25 04:52 ---
 Please apply this patch, find which acpi_video device backlight sys I/F can
 work for you and attach the result of cat
 /sys/class/backlight/acpi_videoX/acpi_dev/path.
 

this one is in acpi_video0
\_SB_.PCI0.VID_.LCD0
this one is in acpi_video1
\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_.VID_.LCD0

acpi_video1 is correct and working.


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--- Comment #17 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-25 06:48 ---
I expect the problem is:
  - The external graphics ACPI device is using the traditional method to switch
brightness, it also works for the internal (Intel) graphics device
  - The internal ACPI graphics device (Intel card) is using a feature that
needs
in kernel graphics driver support.

This needs fixing in BIOS and I expect Lenovo is willing to do this.
Intel should discuss this internally with their graphics drivers programmers
and provide a OSI ability string.


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--- Comment #14 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-21 22:08 ---
zdenek,
please set CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO and modprobe video after system boot.


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--- Comment #12 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-21 21:52 ---
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Please apply this patch and attach the dmesg output.
Then please play with /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/... and
/sys/class/backlight/acpi_video1/... and find out which acpi_video backligh sys
I/F works for you.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-02-25 Thread bugme-daemon
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9995


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--- Comment #13 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-21 22:06 ---
Created an attachment (id=14947)
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create symbol link from backligh device to acpi device node

Please apply this patch, find which acpi_video device backlight sys I/F can
work for you and attach the result of cat
/sys/class/backlight/acpi_videoX/acpi_dev/path.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-02-25 Thread bugme-daemon
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9995





--- Comment #18 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-25 19:43 ---
(In reply to comment #17)
 I expect the problem is:
   - The external graphics ACPI device is using the traditional method to 
 switch
 brightness, it also works for the internal (Intel) graphics device
We don't have an external graphics card on this laptop, how could the ACPI
control methods work? This is a BIOS problem to me.
   - The internal ACPI graphics device (Intel card) is using a feature that
 needs
 in kernel graphics driver support.
 This needs fixing in BIOS and I expect Lenovo is willing to do this.
 Intel should discuss this internally with their graphics drivers programmers
 and provide a OSI ability string.
The Intel IGD Opregion Support is on the way.
But it mainly changes the behavior of events handling, like display switch
hotkey events, lid close/open and dock/undock. A SCI is fired upon these
events, notify the ACPI video device and ACPI video driver notify the Intel
video driver to do the actual work by poking the proper OpRegion fields.
IMO, _BCM/_BCL/_BQC methods should work anyway.
I'll look at the AML code later.


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-02-21 Thread bugme-daemon
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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-02-21 Thread bugme-daemon
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9995





--- Comment #11 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-02-21 05:47 ---
well I don't even see any entry in the directory /sys/class/backlight  - it's
got lost somewhere during 2.6.24-rc1  rc2 in the current git tree.

However there is other way how can I get backlight control working again.
when I use this modprobe parameter:

options thinkpad_acpi brightness_enable=1

I get backlight working - but not via standard backlight control
(but it's usable as a temporal fix)


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[Bug 9995] 2.6.25-rc1 regression - backlight controlls do not work - ThinkPad T61

2008-02-20 Thread bugme-daemon
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Summary|2.6.25-rc1 regression - IBM |2.6.25-rc1 regression -
   |ACPI backlight controlls do |backlight controlls do not
   |not work|work - ThinkPad T61




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