Re: [android-developers] Google Play Game Services - Cloud Save

2013-12-19 Thread Chad Ata
cool, that's good to hear.
Thanks for the response Kris.


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Kristopher Micinski <
krismicin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> To answer your question, no such thing applies to the cloud save API
> in the way you're describing.  If your app isn't easily serializable
> in an incremental fashion, then an explicit save point sounds like a
> perfectly reasonable thing to do...
>
> Kris
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Chad Ata  wrote:
> > haha.. you're right, the chance of getting featured is practically zero.
> We
> > probably have a better chance with the lottery.. or a lightning bolt.
> > But, for example, Amazon has a Developer Select program in which you get
> > additional exposure on their app store if you implement a set of features
> > and meet certain guidelines.
> > We're probably not going to get featured =/ but might as well shoot for
> the
> > stars and do things the way they want =]
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Kristopher Micinski
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> Uhh.
> >>
> >> Hate to break it to you, but there is basically no way you are going
> >> to considered for featuring anyway, that's a whole 'nother ballgame
> >> :-).  You can argue with people about how to make that happen, but I
> >> can basically guarantee you that they're not going to decompile your
> >> code and check whether you're using their API the specific way it was
> >> designed to be used.
> >>
> >> Kris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Chad Ata  wrote:
> >> > Thanks for the response Kris,
> >> >
> >> > I ask because none of the conflict resolution docs recommend this
> >> > solution.
> >> > See:
> https://developer.android.com/training/cloudsave/conflict-res.html
> >> > I'm also concerned that if it doesn't meet their quality guidelines,
> >> > then it
> >> > would not be considered for featuring.
> >> > Maybe I'm being paranoid =] but then again, maybe i'm not
> >> >
> >> > -Chad
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Kristopher Micinski
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't see why this would be at all problematic.  It seems
> completely
> >> >> within the guidelines that says this is a bad idea.  The Cloud Save
> >> >> API is just that, an API: so I'd use it however it worked best for
> >> >> you!
> >> >>
> >> >> Kris
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Sheado  wrote:
> >> >> > Hi Android,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Would it be considered bad practice to implement Cloud Save as
> simple
> >> >> > backup/restore buttons in our game's menu?
> >> >> > To clarify, user would press backup on the device with the data
> they
> >> >> > want.
> >> >> > Then press restore on the device they want to update.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Quietly updating game content as recommended in the docs would not
> be
> >> >> > trivial in our game, so we are considering going with a
> >> >> > backup/restore
> >> >> > approach.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Would this be ok, or would this not meet good Google Play
> development
> >> >> > guidelines?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >> >> > Groups "Android Developers" group.
> >> >> > To post to this group, send email to
> >> >> > android-developers@googlegroups.com
> >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >> >> > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> >> >> > For more options, visit this group at
> >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
> >> >> > ---
> >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >> >> > Groups
> >> >> > "Android Developers" group.
> >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
> >> >> > send
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >> >> Groups "Android Developers" group.
> >> >> To post to this group, send email to
> >> >> android-developers@googlegroups.com
> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >> >> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> >> >> For more options, visit this group at
> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
> >> >> ---
> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in
> the
> >> >> Google Groups "Android Developers" group.
> >> >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> >> >>
> >> >>
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/android-developers/-XbklDth9Cs/unsubscribe
> .
> >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> >> >> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >> >>
> >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >> > Groups "Android Dev

Re: [android-developers] Google Play Game Services - Cloud Save

2013-12-18 Thread Kristopher Micinski
To answer your question, no such thing applies to the cloud save API
in the way you're describing.  If your app isn't easily serializable
in an incremental fashion, then an explicit save point sounds like a
perfectly reasonable thing to do...

Kris


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Chad Ata  wrote:
> haha.. you're right, the chance of getting featured is practically zero. We
> probably have a better chance with the lottery.. or a lightning bolt.
> But, for example, Amazon has a Developer Select program in which you get
> additional exposure on their app store if you implement a set of features
> and meet certain guidelines.
> We're probably not going to get featured =/ but might as well shoot for the
> stars and do things the way they want =]
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Kristopher Micinski
>  wrote:
>>
>> Uhh.
>>
>> Hate to break it to you, but there is basically no way you are going
>> to considered for featuring anyway, that's a whole 'nother ballgame
>> :-).  You can argue with people about how to make that happen, but I
>> can basically guarantee you that they're not going to decompile your
>> code and check whether you're using their API the specific way it was
>> designed to be used.
>>
>> Kris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Chad Ata  wrote:
>> > Thanks for the response Kris,
>> >
>> > I ask because none of the conflict resolution docs recommend this
>> > solution.
>> > See: https://developer.android.com/training/cloudsave/conflict-res.html
>> > I'm also concerned that if it doesn't meet their quality guidelines,
>> > then it
>> > would not be considered for featuring.
>> > Maybe I'm being paranoid =] but then again, maybe i'm not
>> >
>> > -Chad
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Kristopher Micinski
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't see why this would be at all problematic.  It seems completely
>> >> within the guidelines that says this is a bad idea.  The Cloud Save
>> >> API is just that, an API: so I'd use it however it worked best for
>> >> you!
>> >>
>> >> Kris
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Sheado  wrote:
>> >> > Hi Android,
>> >> >
>> >> > Would it be considered bad practice to implement Cloud Save as simple
>> >> > backup/restore buttons in our game's menu?
>> >> > To clarify, user would press backup on the device with the data they
>> >> > want.
>> >> > Then press restore on the device they want to update.
>> >> >
>> >> > Quietly updating game content as recommended in the docs would not be
>> >> > trivial in our game, so we are considering going with a
>> >> > backup/restore
>> >> > approach.
>> >> >
>> >> > Would this be ok, or would this not meet good Google Play development
>> >> > guidelines?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> >> > Groups "Android Developers" group.
>> >> > To post to this group, send email to
>> >> > android-developers@googlegroups.com
>> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> >> > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
>> >> > For more options, visit this group at
>> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
>> >> > ---
>> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> >> > Groups
>> >> > "Android Developers" group.
>> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
>> >> > send
>> >> > an
>> >> > email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> >> Groups "Android Developers" group.
>> >> To post to this group, send email to
>> >> android-developers@googlegroups.com
>> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> >> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
>> >> For more options, visit this group at
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
>> >> ---
>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
>> >> Google Groups "Android Developers" group.
>> >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
>> >>
>> >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/android-developers/-XbklDth9Cs/unsubscribe.
>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
>> >> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> >>
>> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> > Groups "Android Developers" group.
>> > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
>> > For more options, visit this group at
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
>> > ---
>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> > Groups
>> > "Android De

Re: [android-developers] Google Play Game Services - Cloud Save

2013-12-18 Thread Chad Ata
haha.. you're right, the chance of getting featured is practically zero. We
probably have a better chance with the lottery.. or a lightning bolt.
But, for example, Amazon has a Developer Select program in which you get
additional exposure on their app store if you implement a set of features
and meet certain guidelines.
We're probably not going to get featured =/ but might as well shoot for the
stars and do things the way they want =]


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Kristopher Micinski  wrote:

> Uhh.
>
> Hate to break it to you, but there is basically no way you are going
> to considered for featuring anyway, that's a whole 'nother ballgame
> :-).  You can argue with people about how to make that happen, but I
> can basically guarantee you that they're not going to decompile your
> code and check whether you're using their API the specific way it was
> designed to be used.
>
> Kris
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Chad Ata  wrote:
> > Thanks for the response Kris,
> >
> > I ask because none of the conflict resolution docs recommend this
> solution.
> > See: https://developer.android.com/training/cloudsave/conflict-res.html
> > I'm also concerned that if it doesn't meet their quality guidelines,
> then it
> > would not be considered for featuring.
> > Maybe I'm being paranoid =] but then again, maybe i'm not
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Kristopher Micinski
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't see why this would be at all problematic.  It seems completely
> >> within the guidelines that says this is a bad idea.  The Cloud Save
> >> API is just that, an API: so I'd use it however it worked best for
> >> you!
> >>
> >> Kris
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Sheado  wrote:
> >> > Hi Android,
> >> >
> >> > Would it be considered bad practice to implement Cloud Save as simple
> >> > backup/restore buttons in our game's menu?
> >> > To clarify, user would press backup on the device with the data they
> >> > want.
> >> > Then press restore on the device they want to update.
> >> >
> >> > Quietly updating game content as recommended in the docs would not be
> >> > trivial in our game, so we are considering going with a backup/restore
> >> > approach.
> >> >
> >> > Would this be ok, or would this not meet good Google Play development
> >> > guidelines?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >> > Groups "Android Developers" group.
> >> > To post to this group, send email to
> android-developers@googlegroups.com
> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >> > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> >> > For more options, visit this group at
> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
> >> > ---
> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >> > Groups
> >> > "Android Developers" group.
> >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
> >> > an
> >> > email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
> >>
> >> --
> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >> Groups "Android Developers" group.
> >> To post to this group, send email to
> android-developers@googlegroups.com
> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> >> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> >> For more options, visit this group at
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
> >> ---
> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> >> Google Groups "Android Developers" group.
> >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> >>
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/android-developers/-XbklDth9Cs/unsubscribe
> .
> >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> >> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> >>
> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
> >
> >
> > --
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> > Groups "Android Developers" group.
> > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> > For more options, visit this group at
> > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
> > ---
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> > "Android Developers" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> > email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "Android Developers" group.
> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: [android-developers] Google Play Game Services - Cloud Save

2013-12-18 Thread Kristopher Micinski
Uhh.

Hate to break it to you, but there is basically no way you are going
to considered for featuring anyway, that's a whole 'nother ballgame
:-).  You can argue with people about how to make that happen, but I
can basically guarantee you that they're not going to decompile your
code and check whether you're using their API the specific way it was
designed to be used.

Kris




On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Chad Ata  wrote:
> Thanks for the response Kris,
>
> I ask because none of the conflict resolution docs recommend this solution.
> See: https://developer.android.com/training/cloudsave/conflict-res.html
> I'm also concerned that if it doesn't meet their quality guidelines, then it
> would not be considered for featuring.
> Maybe I'm being paranoid =] but then again, maybe i'm not
>
> -Chad
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Kristopher Micinski
>  wrote:
>>
>> I don't see why this would be at all problematic.  It seems completely
>> within the guidelines that says this is a bad idea.  The Cloud Save
>> API is just that, an API: so I'd use it however it worked best for
>> you!
>>
>> Kris
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Sheado  wrote:
>> > Hi Android,
>> >
>> > Would it be considered bad practice to implement Cloud Save as simple
>> > backup/restore buttons in our game's menu?
>> > To clarify, user would press backup on the device with the data they
>> > want.
>> > Then press restore on the device they want to update.
>> >
>> > Quietly updating game content as recommended in the docs would not be
>> > trivial in our game, so we are considering going with a backup/restore
>> > approach.
>> >
>> > Would this be ok, or would this not meet good Google Play development
>> > guidelines?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > --
>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> > Groups "Android Developers" group.
>> > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
>> > For more options, visit this group at
>> > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
>> > ---
>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> > Groups
>> > "Android Developers" group.
>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>> > an
>> > email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>> Groups "Android Developers" group.
>> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
>> For more options, visit this group at
>> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
>> ---
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
>> Google Groups "Android Developers" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/android-developers/-XbklDth9Cs/unsubscribe.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
>> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "Android Developers" group.
> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Android Developers" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "Android Developers" group.
To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Android Developers" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.


Re: [android-developers] Google Play Game Services - Cloud Save

2013-12-18 Thread Chad Ata
Thanks for the response Kris,

I ask because none of the conflict resolution docs recommend this solution.
See: https://developer.android.com/training/cloudsave/conflict-res.html
I'm also concerned that if it doesn't meet their quality guidelines, then
it would not be considered for featuring.
Maybe I'm being paranoid =] but then again, maybe i'm not

-Chad


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Kristopher Micinski  wrote:

> I don't see why this would be at all problematic.  It seems completely
> within the guidelines that says this is a bad idea.  The Cloud Save
> API is just that, an API: so I'd use it however it worked best for
> you!
>
> Kris
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Sheado  wrote:
> > Hi Android,
> >
> > Would it be considered bad practice to implement Cloud Save as simple
> > backup/restore buttons in our game's menu?
> > To clarify, user would press backup on the device with the data they
> want.
> > Then press restore on the device they want to update.
> >
> > Quietly updating game content as recommended in the docs would not be
> > trivial in our game, so we are considering going with a backup/restore
> > approach.
> >
> > Would this be ok, or would this not meet good Google Play development
> > guidelines?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> > Groups "Android Developers" group.
> > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> > For more options, visit this group at
> > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
> > ---
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> > "Android Developers" group.
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> > email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "Android Developers" group.
> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "Android Developers" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/android-developers/-XbklDth9Cs/unsubscribe
> .
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "Android Developers" group.
To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Android Developers" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.


Re: [android-developers] Google Play Game Services - Cloud Save

2013-12-18 Thread Kristopher Micinski
I don't see why this would be at all problematic.  It seems completely
within the guidelines that says this is a bad idea.  The Cloud Save
API is just that, an API: so I'd use it however it worked best for
you!

Kris


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Sheado  wrote:
> Hi Android,
>
> Would it be considered bad practice to implement Cloud Save as simple
> backup/restore buttons in our game's menu?
> To clarify, user would press backup on the device with the data they want.
> Then press restore on the device they want to update.
>
> Quietly updating game content as recommended in the docs would not be
> trivial in our game, so we are considering going with a backup/restore
> approach.
>
> Would this be ok, or would this not meet good Google Play development
> guidelines?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> Groups "Android Developers" group.
> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> For more options, visit this group at
> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
> ---
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "Android Developers" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "Android Developers" group.
To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Android Developers" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.