Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
2015-05-14
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I have a question. I once owned both this title and tank commander but had a lot of system changes, and all including email changes and no longer have the info to those games and all. is it possible that any one knows of to get key replacements? I don't think I ever had an account persay. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216390#p216390 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hello.I switch to the screen reader in the game, but it does not work.and when I open the game back, I skip a message sayingError initializing the screen reader in Windows. or something like that.please anyone help me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216213#p216213 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I just downloaded it. I will install and play when I can. Just another bug fix release right? Anyway, it will be interesting where the bugs are this time... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188934#p188934 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released David is back from vacation and has posted the latest beta on September 6:Download Shades of Doom v 2.0.21 September 6, 2014http://www.GMAGames.com/sod20021.exe URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188931#p188931 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Actually the term gone fishing really means away on vacation in the US about 100 years ago.If anyone gets a crash with the Shades of Doom beta they should always send David the error.log file.It is actually a text file and if you want to read it you can change the .log word to .txt and then read it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183786#p183786 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Fishing is very nice and relaxing. But, fishing for at leased one month? [[wow]]! I have also successfully gone fishing a number of times. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183763#p183763 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released hi.i don't have this error, and don't have any error with this game. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183723#p183723 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I am blind and have also been fishing successfully a number of times. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183715#p183715 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Yes David is blind and blind folks can fish.I have done it myself. You can feel the fish biting the bate by the slight pulls on the rod. When this happens you pull the rod up strongly to set the hook, and then reel in the fish.I am planning the london level for the Sarah game but need David's help to move the castle ground floor to another level if possible.I am not sure how much time that would take.David just posted this message:I think I found the problem. My worry is that it may be more than one issue. Could you please send me your error.log file found in the SOD data folder so that I can check if you have the error I have fixed. Regards,David GreenwoodGMA Gamesdavidgreenw...@rogers.comhttp://www.GMAGames.com URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183712#p183712 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released hi.just questions:david i blind?if yes, how can he fish?and now on-topic.phil: your sarah update is close to finish and relese or still far from it?kamchek. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183690#p183690 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released David wrote that for most of August he is gone fishing.He may be working on the level changing bug but probably will not update the beta until he is back from his Summer vacation and is home.He also wrote that the Time of Conflict on-line game surver crashed and will have to wait until he is home to get fixed. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183684#p183684 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released So is this still in beta testing or is the release now stable? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183641#p183641 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Audioracer,By changing the english.txt file you can modify the monsters names to:nblob.wavGiant octopusnmonster1.wavwerewolfnmonster2.wavzombienmonster3.wavBansheenmonster4.wavPoltergeist nmonster5.wavGhoul NMONSTER6.WAVVampirenrat.wavWomp Ratnrobot.wavMegatronntemper.wavSpace Warp Tornadonturret.wavSentinel Robot URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182243#p182243 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I never thaught that there would be support for SAPI and Screenreaders in this game. Grate Idea. So if you don't like the EVA Voices, just use your screenreader or Sapi. I find when using NVDA and Elliquence or ESpeak, the game is very snappy fast. Now that David has implemented SAPI and Screenreader support, maybe a level editor where we can create our own maps, monsters, weapons, story campaines, custom players to fit a campaines, etc. Who knows. But I feel like the SAPI and Screenreader support just opened alot of doors here.I'll have to post to the email list about this. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182233#p182233 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released From David July 23:Hi all,Shades of Doom 2.0.19 is ready to download. It has most of the things mentioned on this list fixed.http://www.GMAGames.com/sod20019.exe Regards,David Greenwooddavidgreenw...@gmagames.comhttp://www.GMAGames.com URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181791#p181791 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi Folks,In the most recent beta version, 20018, the SAPI default volume is very low.Until David gets the next version out, the easiest fix is to hit enter until you hear the warning alarm in the passage, Press F12, and then up arrow several times to increase the volume, then press Enter. You could also copy sodDefault.ini from the installation folder to sod.ini in your data folder.Regards,David Greenwooddavidgreenw...@gmagames.comhttp://www.GMAGames.com URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181747#p181747 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Bleh, maybe that's it. Sorry to hear that. But, I'm sure it was once the case. Try dying while an armed mine is nearby; you should get the mine armed sound panning. Or you did--I'll try and recreate it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181683#p181683 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Sebby,I didn't detect any panning when you die.I thought there should be more than a guy screaming so I added a bit of equipment crashing.Sometimes David likes what I suggest and sometimes he doesn't.David did write that the method of using less computer cycles is causing some fast moving sounds to stutter so he is adjusting it for the next release. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181655#p181655 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I love the way it pans slightly as you fall dead. That always impressed me since it was originally released, as an alpha, but it's now fairly convincing. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181625#p181625 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi Folks,David Greenwood just posted this on July 21, 2014:Hi all,Another release of Shades of Doom:http://www.GMAGames.com/sod20018.exeMajor changes include:- saved files from any previous 2.0 version should work now.-SOD now uses less computer cycles.- If you save in options, it now saves your Sapi settings that were made with F10, F11, and F12.- Menus speech is interrupted in MS Sapi as you move through the list.- Some speech files were trimmed of excess silence.-Attempt to make the monsters directional sound when very close to you even more accurate. You'll need to be the judge. Hopefully this doesn't effect the volume appreciably. Regards,David Greenwooddavidgreenw...@gmagames.comhttp://www.GMAGames.com URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181570#p181570 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Mmm, it's been three days now, and the link for the newest version is still not on the main page. Check. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181223#p181223 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I'm noticing a possible bug in the first level where sometimes a couple data wafers don't show up. I'll kill every enemy I comeacross (which is pretty much standard practice with me anyway), and collect every objectI find. Yet at the end of that level I'll sometimes check the wafer count andit'll still show up with oneor two wafers as not found, and this after I backtrack through the level. So far this is th only level I've had this happen on. Other than that the game seems to work just fine, particularly now that the ending is back where it belongs. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181084#p181084 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I just did. Nice job on the intro. I think it goes along with the story well, and the voice acting in the transmission is awesome. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181065#p181065 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released patjk,No, I didn't do the new EVA voice.You should write David directly with those kinds of corrections. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181060#p181060 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi Phil,Not sure if you did the design of the eva voice, but there's a bit of silence in the file that says the room terminates abruptly, as well as the menu files with built in speech. I emailed David about the first one, but figured I'd post the rest here. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=181009#p181009 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released patjk,Probably, as I think hundreds of people are downloading and trying it out.Just remember that your old saved games will not work, and your english.txt file will be overwritten as David added some new words at the end. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180950#p180950 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi Phil,I'm getting about 60 kb per second when downloading this. Am able to download from other sites at about 1.3 megabytes per second. Is the server just being slammed? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180923#p180923 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released From David, July 16:Hi all,Yet another release:http://www.GMAGames.com/sod20016.exe The changes and bug fixes are:- The game now completes correctly. For sure this time.- The special teleporter on Level 8 works properly.- The clearer EVA voices are in place.- Control interrupts all three speech types.- When MS Sapi is in use, you can use F10, F11, and F12 to adjust sapi voice, rate, and volume respectively.- New intro by Phil Vlasak.- a dozen or so new and improved sounds.- several small bug fixes.As with all upgrades, whether they be betas or fully tested versions, backup your Shades of Doom 2.0 data folder. Note that Keystrokes.ini is overwritten in your SOD data folder. English.txt, found under Shades of Doom 2.0 in the Program Files folder is also overwritten. If you make changes to this file, you should always keep a backup since it will be clobbered in every new release. If no major problems are reported, I'll put this version up on the web site tomorrow or the next day. Regards,David Greenwooddavidgreenw...@gmagames.comhttp://www.GMAGames.com URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180884#p180884 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
A few things:I notice no difference with the sound as compared to the old version; whatever was changed in terms of sounding 3D is something I can't notice. I can't quote the specific equations off the top of my head, but the entire panning algorithm in both versions feels odd for lack of a better word. I can't aim manually with it and I used to be pretty good at Swamp. Perhaps the weapons are too unforgiving or something; nevertheless.I also dislike the new voice greatly. Bring the old one back-it fit the atmosphere much, much better.And one thing that Shades of Doom needs is navigational info. Carpet some of the hallways for example. Name some of the rooms ("office b5", "maintenance corridor"), maybe even add text descriptions. The environment is empty. Completely empty. I'm in a military base, not an oddly square cave system with random fans and coffee machines ("
;you are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike" comes to mind and is really quite accurate). I should not need the visited keystroke to navigate a military base-there should be enough variety that I can remember I've already been to the missile silo on this level, and [[wow]] I just hit the main corridor again-look at the carpet-or the atrium-say hello to the fountain. Maybe I'm too critical, but this is my first thought related to content rather than interface when playing Shades of Doom.
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released hi.[[wow]], now he changed the sound to helicopter?i have a russian mod, which insted of:come to me, help me!steps, doors opening, doors closing,tired self in?good work! i'm sure you've get a meddal for this.insted of that, the russian mod is:who understand, understanding.ok, here it is:возвращаемся на базу!шаги, дверь открываеця, дверь закрываеця.обстановка в норме.спасибо, вы отлично справились.and did david changed the also the ending speach of these 2 men?kamochek. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180408#p180408 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi,Level 10 appears to worked as intended in the development engine, but not in the game play engine. The helicopter never arrives. I'm still looking into this.Regards,David Greenwooddavidgreenw...@gmagames.comhttp://www.GMAGames.com URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180403#p180403 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I sent off and got my key replacements for all the games I have. Now to see about getting that update. Is there anything I need to know before attempting to buy 2.0 of SOD? Sence it is in beta, do I have to type anything different into one of the fields? Oh us if david is reading this topic, I want to thank him for the replacements. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180397#p180397 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released hi.thanks, now it is working.kamochek. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180348#p180348 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Try to follow these instructions:To turn on your SAPI or Screen Reader voice,Play the game and after David says hit f1 for help,do that.Note the default built in voice will be used until you change it.After hitting f1 use up arro to get to optionsThen right arrow to open them,then up arrow two times to get to speech setting.To change it use the space barWhen you have the correct setting hit down arrow to save settings and hit enter.If your computer doesn't allow changing files in c:\program files\Shades of Doom 2.0, the default location,You need to uninstall the game and install it in a safe location,I would try,c:\users\kamochek\downloadsor c:\users\kamocheck\gamesIf the folder doesn't exist, you need to create it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180342#p180342 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released ah.when i installing that, i geting the following message:[Window Title]RegSvr32[Content]DllRegisterServer in ScreenReaderAPI.dll succeeded.[OK]it is good or bad?or it is only for windows 7, 32bit?i have 64bit.kamochek. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180319#p180319 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released hi.i pressing f1, going to the options menu, changing to screen reader, but nothing hapening.it still self voicing.why?kamochek. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180317#p180317 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Must be Ivona Salli's issue then. Thanks for the info about the file, that helps. If you can have sapi interrupt in menus, it's be great.Patrick URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180309#p180309 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Patjk,Yes in the english.txt file that contains all the words in the game for SAPI and screen reader support it says:controlf1instead of control f1I opened that file into a word processer and changed it and now it is correct.Of course if the file is in c:\program files\sod2\english.txtyour computer will try to stopyou from changing it. I also changed mutant human to zombie.I couldn't find any miss-spelled arrows. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180306#p180306 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Also, there's a couple of misspellings that I could see from the sapi voice I used. Arrow isn't said correctly, and I don't think there is a space between control and f1 so it says controlf1 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180278#p180278 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi,I like sapi support, however, is it possible that you could have interruptions when arrowing through menus, but not when walking, or is this not doable? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180274#p180274 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released hi.and this can be the first game, i mean shades of doom, translated to hebrew.by me.kamochek. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180271#p180271 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Kamochek,Yeah, I think I'll wait until the dust settles and the bugs are good and squashed.Since it is now part of the GMA game engine, I might put the same SAPI and Screen reader support into my Sarah game if it isn't too dificult.I know I already put in SAPI support with the v key but it only works for the tarot card game.I like the idea of the English file that holds the text that can be changed like changing feet to meters. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180269#p180269 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released And get the same reactions that this topic got? I'm betting he's might be thinking "yeh right". LOL. Anyway, I'm thinking about getting the update to try to be where I can help test this beta. I sent david a message on the contact forem to see if I can't get the games I have under the account that I set up the other day. Then, we shall see what we shall see. I'm going to need a key replacement when ever I get my new computer bought paid for and on my desk. LOL. I think I forgot to ask him to put vipmud into my account. Oops. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180263#p180263 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released hi phil.why don't you release a beta of sarah 1.2, and then continu to write these new levels, and then give us the full version?kamochek. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180257#p180257 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released For those who want to use your SAPI voices in Shades of Doom, you need to pick the voice, volume and pitch in your Windows control panel.It is under Text to Speech.I adjusted my pitch from 50 percent to 75 percent which sounds better in the game.In Windows Vista, there is an apply button to hit first before leaving the TTS feature. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180254#p180254 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released For those who want to use the SAPI voice in Shades of Doo, you need to pick the voice volume and pitch in your Windows control panel.It is under Text to Speech.I adjusted my pitch from 50 percent to 75 percent which sounds better in the game.In Vista there is an apply button to hit first before leaving the TTS feature. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180254#p180254 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi.Nice update.Regarding to speech interrupt, commands to review the last text would be very useful. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180223#p180223 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released From David,Hi all,Sod version 2.0.15 is ready for download, but before I put it on the website, I thought it might be good for a few experienced players to give it a try. Lots of suggestions were included, and it can be played using the built-in voice, your screen reader, or MS Sapi.From Phil:To turn on your SAPI or Screen Reader voice,Play the game and after David says hit f1 for help,do that.Note the default built in voice will be used until you change it.After hitting f1 use up arro to get to optionsThen right arrow to open them,then up arrow two times to get to speech setting.To change it use the space barWhen you have the correct setting hit down arrow to save settings and hit enter.http://www.GMAGames.com/sod20015.exeAs with all betas, backup any SOD data you do not want to lose. For example, the folder:c:\users\& lt;your name>\documents\Shades of Doom 2.0should be backed up. This name varies depending on the version of Windows. Other possibilities could be:c:\users\\my documents\Shades of Doom 2.0orc:\documents and settings\\my documents\Shades of Doom 2.0In the program folder there is a file called English.txt. For those who might be interested in translating the speech text to another language, you may be interested in this file. Of course you will need to set Speech in the options menu to MS Sapi or screen reader to take advantage of any changes. Regards,David Greenwooddavidgreenw...@gmagames.comhttp://www.GMAGames.com URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180209#p180209 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi, the screen reader choice is good. A way to avoid speech interrupting would be to put our screen readers to sleep. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180174#p180174 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released From David on 7 July:Hi all,Fixed many of the problems mentioned such as the toilet that doesn't give up its ammo, or even give up its blob, the problem with the crate and several other things. They were all related.A few people asked to have the monster sounds in the sound help, but this does not seem to be necessary since all you need to do is press Control-M when you encounter a monster and its name is given.From 8 July:What would people think if instead of having a built-in voice, we use your choice of MS Sapi or your screen reader. In this way I can be sure of having a consistent, easily understood voice, since you have selected it yourself. Also, I can expand Shades of Doom and not worry about matching voice tamber, pitch, and volume. Voice actors have been suggested, but sometimes you lose track of them, or they might not be interested in continuing when you make changes at a later date. There is another reason. I need the speech to be flexible. For example, to be able to say someone's name, and to eventually translate all the speech to other languages.There is another issue. What about keyinterrupt? When Jaws, and maybe other screen readers are speaking, you press any key and it interrupts the current speech. You can miss important information that way, and you may not even know that you do. This does not happen with MS Sapi. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=180173#p180173 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Yep, a swarm would be good. You sort of got the same effect with the mutant birds, however it was easy enough to pick those off with the automatic weapons, or even manually provided you could aim fast enough. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179568#p179568 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released @Dark you do make some compelling points about the potential for different enemy types. Maybe even a swarm of flies or other insects or something else which may actually make the flame thrower worth using regularly. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179541#p179541 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I think that SOD is a very pure audio experience, in the sense that there is no ambiguous sound representation, and the game is designed as such for the player to be on fair terms throughout. In other words, SOD emphasises funness over reality. This I think is what people find so charming about it, and I agree.But how this would work in a multiplayer mode, I don't know. From David's notes, it seems he's just as fastidious about that as his single-player mode, and notwithstanding any effect multiplayer would have on the general atmosphere of the game world (which, again, contributes substantially to its charm) it seems likely that the game would be very different to any of the existing FPSs we can play.Now I think about it, I probably haven't thought this through very well, because my idea of multiplayer SOD was essentially that of turning everybody into silent walkers, but realising as I do now that this would actually make for a fairly dull and c hallenging experience, I can see how David's ideas do make more sense. Although, if it were me, I'd work on removing the limitation on eight players. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179532#p179532 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released okay so actually just tried this myself, just want to point out that the new sounds are as far as I can see all from locutus's first mod for SOD, which was actually pretty good imo URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179513#p179513 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Well I've just downloaded and tried the update, though unfortunately I seem to be running into the same problem Bryan mentioned sinse I don't see options for an upgrade on my account with Gma. Either way, I like the new monster and weapon sounds, however I do agree that they're a bit quiet and don't show distance particularly, sinse I had a monster's volume remain the same when at 30 feet and when close enough to be attacking.that being said, the bolt gun as a laser was cool. The new eva voice I like from a setting perspective, sinse it's less obviously human now and more neutral, neither male nor female, as an advanced computer would be. That being said, some phrases were rather hard to understand due to the level of distortion on the voice. I will say that the sounds generally are clearer and play and the game is lovely on my uba sanheisa headphones.So, a mixed bag, but ce rtainly not all bad, I'll be interested to see how more of the game goes once I have the full version, particularly sinse it has been a few years sinse I last played shades of doom. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179498#p179498 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released @Bryan, I agree on that, it was shades of doom that actually convinced me audiogames were worth playing and not just something simple made for the poor denuded blindies. As to new versions and money Keba, I for one never said the new version shouldn't happen and david shouldnt' charge, only that I was disappointed with the lack of upgrades as compared to 1.2. If you've not played the previous version, that doesn't change the fact that shades is itself a completely awsome game, a fact that nothing can change. It's an absolute classic everyone who's a fan of audiogames should play at some point, indeed it's Shades very cult status that is likely the reason for the negativity and the hopes for more of it from gamers who already know the original game backwards.@Welshweyer, in terms of monsters, I wouldn't disagree that the current challenge of the game isn't fine, however I do think a great er variety in monsters would break things up a little more. For example, instead of gun wielding mutants as the primary ranged attackers, how about acid spitting lizards? creatures firing poinoned spines? How about a giant scorpian style enemy with weak armour but a medium ranged sting attack. How about some creatures with attacks to slow or effect the player, like say a mutant plant with grasping tendrils that held the player still while other nasties homed in? How about some floor hazards like pools of acid or molten metal that damaged the player, or some slippery floor tiles that altered the player's movement speed.All of these would be possible judging by what we've seen in Sarah, and would create more variety and tactics required in the game by changing the situation, also meaning that the player was more frequently presented with new enemies rather than the same old ones, albeit in more challenging positio ns. @keba, regarding the music, while I agree some more music might have been nice, especially different music for different stages of the game, at the same time I don't like the idea of high action, rock type stuff. Part of what always attracted me to shades was the horror atmosphere. The fact that the first few times you play the game you don't know when something nasty is going to creep up on you, emphasised by the gorey death sounds, and the survival horror theme of the game. While I'd personally like more music, I'd much prefer it to stay within this survival horror theme and not turn the game into a monster slaughter action fest, sinse after all we have other games for that. The original shades music was quite okay for this imho, however after a while it does become more monotonous than creepy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179473#p179473 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I have to disagree on the music. While the music could definitely see some improvement I really would not want to see rock/electronic because it doesn't fit with the atmosphere. Being alone in a lab full of potentially dangerous things requires more of a drone sound, which is kind of what we have now although the quality is a little disappointing. So something similar but better is something I'd prefer to see. Besides, in real life if you're alone and have no idea what you're facing you probably want something that enables you to hear any unusual activity rather than loud music that allows you to be attacked without even hearing it.. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179472#p179472 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I have to disagree on the music. While the music could definitely see some improvement I definitely would not want to see rock/electronic because it doesn't fit with the atmosphere. Being alone in a lab full of potentially dangerous things requires more of a drone sound, which is kind of what we have now although the quality is a little disappointing. So something similar but better would is something I'd prefer to see. Besides, in real life if you're alone and have no idea what you're facing you probably want something that enables you to hear any unusual activity rather than loud music that allows you to be attacked without even hearing it.. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179472#p179472 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released We can hope for plot development in a future version of SOD or, failing that, a outright sequel. I have a lot of respect for SOD since it was one of the very first audio games I ever played and, back in 2004 whenI bought my copy of version 1.0, it was probably one of the most sophisticated titles we had. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179467#p179467 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I think I'd have liked maybe another level or 2, or a reworking of the existing ones, because some of the maps are really familiar. There are certain monsters in certain places which it all came flooding back to fight in a certain way. I suppose there are no new monsters after the temporal disturbance so all you get for the last half of the game is just bigger guns facing you. Maybe a new monster later on would be good but I think that the ranged abilities of the monsters at that stage are enough of a challenge for me.I wholeheartedly agree that it would be good to be able to interact with the environment a bit more though. So few of the pieces of ambient equipment do anything and that seems a shame. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179461#p179461 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released hi guys. just thought i'd thorw in some stuff here.firstly, not being funny here, but if you don't want to buy the upgrade, .. then don't? stop having a go at somebody for doing work, and then selling that work. if you already have version 1.2, or what ever, and are happy with that, then that's fine. i how ever, did buy the game. no, not an upgrade, as i never even had version 1.2. lol. so i spent the 20 US dollars to grab it while i could, in stead of buying it at a higher price. i take every chance i can to get games on cheap. wether that be 5 bucks for an upgrade, or 20 bucks for a full purchase. so from the point of view of the people who have version 1.2 and don't like the fact that this new / remade version, costs money, i can see where you are coming from. but think about it in these terms. what about the hundreds of people, who were perhaps young children at the time version 1.2 came out, and yes, it's really been that long, might now bu y version 2 outright if they never had version 1.2. so from that point of view, this move makes sense, as there is potentially a hole new gaming generation out there, that have never had shades of doom, and want it, specially for newer operating systems.now, on with a couple things beta wise.firstly, i've only played levels 1, and part of level 2 in this new version. how ever, i noticed that there is a problem when going in the elevator, from level 1 to 2. the game freezes up, for quite a while, before unlocking and dropping you suddenly on level 2. and by quite a while, i mean around 20 seconds. now, if i were on a slower computer, this might be expected. however, i am not. i am on a core i7 quad core running at 2.4 ghz, with turbo up to 3.4, and 8 gb of ram. so i don't see why this is happening. but it bares looking into.it appears to go into a not responding state while it's locked up, then resumes normal functionality once it sorts itself out.sounds:i must agree with several people here. i really don't like the new EVA voice. it's to put it bluntly, horrible. please, david, go to a better voice.as is the menu voice. speaking from the experience of knowing a couple people with hearing problems, the new voices are horrible, and hard to hear. even for me, at nearly perfect hearing levels still.I also, noticed the monster sounds are kinda quiet, and there seems to be very little difference in volume, from being 50 feet away, and 0 feet away. it's hard to tell if the monster is a long way away from me, or about to beat my brains in.as is the sounds for objects to pick up. they also seem to be a bit hard to tell distance with.music:now this is where it's lagging. yeah, it brings back memories of version 1.2, but really, we need newer music, at better quality, and a totally different sound. we need music that gets your blood pumping, and ready to take on the world. not this boring kind of droning sound. this is one area we could see a lot of improvement. either some kind of trance like, electronic like music, or some rock of some type.looking forward to see what else comes to this new version. hopefully, we haven't seen everything yet.dallas URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179453#p179453 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Interesting about the multiplayer. I confess multiplayer is less my thing sinse I tend to prefer exploring and single player plot than competing against others, for all I'd probably give it a try, btw, this is why i liked swamp sinse it was possible to effectively play as a single player game. I actually also agree with Arjan that Gma tank commander would probably work more effectively in terms of setting as a multiplayer game, sinse I did always like the impression of being one lone surviver stuck in a very dark and hostile place shades gave, which would not be the same in a frantic, multiplayer melee, then again i freely admit I'm more a single player sort of bod anyway.The major things i was hoping for in the update were more plot sequences and objects to play with, sinse some of those levels are pretty empty (especially compared to Sarah), and more variety in enemies, sinse I always found myself getting a bit tir ed of seeing the same mutants and cyborgs again by level 5 or 6 so, extra background ambience and a bit of variety in setting would've been nice too. Actual extra levels, or some sort of map designer might have been fun, though I was not entirely holding out for this. Regarding buying the upgrade, as I said though i do feel disappointed I'm personally happy to support Gma to the tune of 5 usd, especially because more is obviously on the way, and I look forward to hearing the new sounds. I would also be a little concerned that if too many people didn't show an interest in the upgrade we may not see more work on Shades in the future.That being said I may contact David once I have bought he upgrade and express some of these concerns.However, as Arjan said perhaps it's now time to move on. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179452#p179452 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I agree that Tank Commander would work far better online than SOD. Then again, I rarely enjoy competative online games since I have very little time to play them and usually get owned by people who do nothing else but get extremely good and then don't stop telling you how much you suck.On another point, is it worth paying for the current version of the game or waiting until the beta is completely worked? I'm not getting errors so far in the version I've downloaded but I'd rather have the most up-to-date and best-worked code. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179438#p179438 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Interesting, I always expected Tank Commander to be the next multiplayer game if any such game were to be developed. Making Shades multiplayer doesn't seem to fit with the nature of the game as well, although it looks like it'll be an entirely different game. And I will admit that these feelings are entirely personal, I definitely would very much consider paying for a multi-player version.I think the disappointment is justified but that now we should just all move on. Besides, Robjoy explained it better than I probably ever could, also fair points about VB6 and such being highly out of date. So we probably should stop repeating ourselves and wait until someone can bring something new to the table. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179434#p179434 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi Phil. sorry... still no luck with the game. Still giving me the same message about a corrupted game.dm file. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179431#p179431 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released If a multiplayer version of the game is going to be released and if it'll cost money per month, I would gladly pay for that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179430#p179430 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hello.I agree, this update is very disappointing.What exactly were the issues in Windows 7?I used to have Windows 7 and the game worked just fine, aside from some audio cutout when transitioning to levels.I will not be paying for this update.If some features do come to SOD in the future, I wouldn't mind paying for it at all.Here are some of the things that could be cool to have in SOD.The multiplayer mode would be awesome!I would love to get online and fight my friends or just random people.The ability to create your own custom maps and enemies would be really cool.This is why I love Adventure at C:.It allows you to create new levels and basically be able to do what ever you want which adds to the game.I would love to be able to create my own map with rooms and hallways and custom enemies and such.I think Shades of Doom has potential though, I really do. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179421#p179421 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released To add to your point dark, the 1.2 update was for free if I remember right. Add to that, it is also in public beta. So far, based on what we got, I agree. the price does seem high. The only things werth noting seems to be the audio and the mouse support and the fixing of bugs on the back end. On the other hand, I'm not questioning the rather or not david should get paid for his work on the intertainment that he provides us via his games. Is it fair to say that part of the problem is in marketing? Just wondering. Based on what we saw in the past, I can for sure see why we all would expect more, but david made no promises in public, as far as I can remember, when it comes to features set. Yes it is disappointing to get what we got in this version. Is $5 enough to take a game such as SOD from XP to seven while leaving everything else about the game in tacked? From reading this topic, the answer is no. It could be summed up by saying that 2.0 is a remake or am I wrong? What exzac kly were people wanting? More story line. More weapons? From I can tell by reading this topic, it would be more story or plot. I wonder, is it to late for David to add more plot? Other then bug fixes, is it set in stone? I would hate for all the complaining on here to end in a buntch of upset little... It is amazing at times on how devided or alike we seem to be at times... Anyway, about the only other thing that $5 seems to get you is access to the full beta. I wonder what would happon if we all put our money where our mouths were? How many sells would not happon? Also, if not enough happons, then what? LOL.editSorry phil. I was typing my post while your doing yours? LOL. I guess I missed out on the peace of info you provided. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179411#p179411 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released To add to your point dark, the 1.2 update was for free if I remember right. Add to that, it is also in public beta. So far, based on what we got, I agree. the price does seem high. The only things werth noting seems to be the audio and the mouse support and the fixing of bugs on the back end. On the other hand, I'm not questioning the rather or not david should get paid for his work on the intertainment that he provides us via his games. Is it fair to say that part of the problem is in marketing? Just wondering. Based on what we saw in the past, I can for sure see why we all would expect more, but david made no promises in public, as far as I can remember, when it comes to features set. Yes it is disappointing to get what we got in this version. Is $5 enough to take a game such as SOD from XP to seven while leaving everything else about the game in tacked? From reading this topic, the answer is no. It could be summed up by saying that 2.0 is a remake or am I wrong? What exzac kly were people wanting? More story line. More weapons? From I can tell by reading this topic, it would be more story or plot. I wonder, is it to late for David to add more plot? Other then bug fixes, is it set in stone? I would hate for all the complaining on here to end in a buntch of upset little... It is amazing at times on how devided or alike we seem to be at times... Anyway, about the only other thing that $5 seems to get you is access to the full beta. I wonder what would happon if we all put our money where our mouths were? How many sells would not happon? Also, if not enough happons, then what? LOL. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179411#p179411 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi Folks,For those with long memories, David Greenwood held a workshop on the upcoming changes to Shades of Doom Multi-User. Place: VIPConduit.comDate: Tuesday, January 4, 2010.He described his ideas for a Shades of Doom Multi-User version, in a message dated September 14, 2009. How it will work.There will never be more than eight people per game. There could be many games in progress at the same time though. You would pick the monster you want to be. Other than the name and voice, everyone's powers and health are the same. The world will be larger than a level. If a level is 20 by 20, the world my be 50 by 50. In other words, over six times the size. There may be options to control the game such as:1. You can control what happens when you die. One method is that you battle until only one person is left. alternatively. When you die, you loose some poi nts and are brought back to a point in the game away from others,2. There is a team option. Say mutant humans versus mutant dogs. Alternatively, you play on your own.3. There may be objectives, say capture an object and bring it back to your home to win. Alternatively, you could choose to play just a shoot 'em up.You would find or kill computer controlled creatures to obtain better weapons and special devices such as a portable teleporter. Depending on the options, you may have a home base.There would need to be a small cost per month. This is to cover the server, data rates, and the amount of work and ongoing maintenance of the world.Please don't ask when it will be ready. Writing a multi-user game is difficult and time consuming and requires quite a few things to be in place first.Since then, he wrote that the multi-player features would be worked on in T ime of Conflict first before SOD.He also stated that he would have to devise an on-line registration system before doing multi-player versions of SOD and Tank Commander and possibly Lone Wolf.With SOD 2.0 including his MyAccount.exe on-line registration system, he is getting closer to the multi-user version of Shades of Doom. I would be hoping for this to eventually come about as my Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry game uses the GMA game engine andI would love to develop a multi-user version. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179409#p179409 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Exodus that's because the mainstream gaming industry has hundreds if not thousands of big name companies with billions of dollars to thheir names, so gamers can afford to get pissy. We onte other hand have a much smaller number of developers, usually one to two-man operations, to choose from. I agree I might have hoped to see more substantial changes between Shades 1.2 and 2.0, especially considering the changes between 1.0 and 1.2 but so far I like the changes for 2.0, especially the removal of that annoying, squeaky EVA voice. Needless to say if I can ever figure out how to upgrade and get the upgrade price I will be buying it to support David. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179407#p179407 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Cw, I will say at least on my part there were quite good reasons I expected major changes in Shades version 2.0. firstly, were the changes between 1.0 and 1.2, (actually 1.2 came out about a week after I bought the game). These included several new weapons and teweked behaviour in older weapons, some level tweaks to make life easier (for example the ability to know how many wafers were left to pick up on a level), a learn game sounds menu, and an entirely redesigned level 9.I also believe some of the other levels got some miner alterations, though i am not absolutely certain on this one. The second reason I was expecting major changes was the difference between Toc 1.0 and 2.0. Toc 2.0 is almost an entirely different game! the basic second world war style stratogy game got several new unit types, from static artilliary to engineers as well as changes in the balance of current units such as fighters, and the mechanics changed with the differences in turns being taken over time (I confess that one is still confusing me but that's another matter). In addition the game got online play capability, and what is effectively two extra varients on the same stratogy game, the medieval stratogy map and the startrek stratogy map, either of which could have potentially been commercial games in and of themselves. And of course there is the ability to create more maps, settings and unit types in the future. Given these major changes, I do think a little degree of disappointment is reasonable, for all I don't think the changes in Shades 2.0 aren't worth 5 usd (whether they're worth ten could be another matter, but pricing is a very subjective process). URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179398#p179398 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released If this game was a mainstream game, The backlash would be swift and terrible. Just saying. Remove the ability to mod, add in a couple of features to keep your games current with what's cool right now and charging for it seems a bit stingy to me imo. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179393#p179393 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi all,David just put up another version. For those who were getting an error at startup, I think it has been fix. For all others, ignore this download:http://www.GMAGames.com/sod20014.exe URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179370#p179370 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released LOL. it saids nothing about paid upgrades either. What I was trying to say was that david didn't have to do the update. Ok, he has to if he wishes to keep on making some money on it... LOL. Any I did some sourching on the forems. What I was trying to figure out is where the hipe came from. Clearly if you were looking for more then better audio and mouse support on the front end, then the price is to much. The argument could be made that we should put our money where our mouth is and not buy until it has the features it we want. Of cource that can have a some kind of an affect. For example, the game may no longer be worked on beyond this point. Of cource the price may drop, or feature may be added. Are these the only things that may happon. LOL. No. I guess I'm getting tired of the complaints, not that they are not valid or anything. I guess I should also stop reading this topic. LOL. Anyway, here here here and here are some topics I found. Make of them as you wish. LOL. I will take note here that this version is still in beta and how ever unlikely it is, more content might be added. Of cource it may not. LOL. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179365#p179365 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi,@CW: Since you quoted the license so nicely for us, also pointing out that there is nothing there about free upgrades, how about paid upgrades? Yet it happens. The license has nothing to do with it.@Slj Yes, that is what I have suggested earlier. A remake would have been fine.@welshweyr Funny you say that, as the mutant human sounds are from Resident Evil. I personally don't think they are appropriate for SoD and of course they were not meant to be.If David chooses to add more new features to the game, I'd be happy to pay, however as things stand currently, this is, for what we get, perhaps a bit too much.Rob URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179342#p179342 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I'm still a bit unclear about how to actually get the upgrade price? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179339#p179339 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Well I'm coming to this one a little late, and I do confess I've not read all 50 odd posts. I also confess I'm waiting until I get back to my desktop at my flat tomorrow before I buy the upgrade, although buy it I will if nothing else to support Gma. On upgrading vs new features, Generally I agree with welshweyr, though obviously I'll need to hear the improved sounds for myself before making up my mind (actually sinse I recently bought some more uba sanheisa headphones I'm quite looking forward to it). On the one hand, yes I was expecting an upgrade similar in scope to Toc 2.0, with new levels, monsters, maybe a level editer etc and I confess I am a trifle disappointed that but for some new sounds and mouse control I'm not getting much in the upgrade. On the other hand, this was entirely my own expectation, not born out by anything David said, and David is notoriously closed on his develo pment plans (and iif I may say so the negativity of some members of the community possibly justifies that). In software terms version numbers are only an indicator. For example the upgrade from supernova 13-4.5 to supernova 13-5.0 wasn't half as big a leap in terms of noticeable user effects as the upgrade from 13-5.1 to 13-5.3, as the changes between the 4 and 5 series while major enough to warrent a more complete number change were not noticeable to the user. I think often with games it is possible to conffuse a new version with an actual sequel. This is why in the Smugglers series when the changelog for smugglers 4.5 became so extensive it completely reworked the game we got Smugglers 5 instead. Maybe we all wanted to see Shades of Doom 2,when in effect what we've got is shades of doom version 2.0. Should david charge for the game? Well on the basis that he probably had to go and collect or reccord new sounds and spent a lot of time on the coding of it, probably yes. On the basis that he hasn't given us the bags of new features we wanted, possibly not. The half way house here seems to be charging a minimal upgrade fee, which with his 5 usd upgrade offer is in effect what David has done. I do think he could've asked more than he did for the Toc upgrade given the extensive number of new features in the game, indeed though there was a similar 5 usd starter offer for Toc I paid the full 10 usd for the upgrade, though this time for Shades 2.0 I will buy it at the 5 usd price.So, yes, disappointing, but probably not worth the negativity. I will also remind people that one of the other purposes of Shades of doom 2.0 was working out the Gma engine. This is not only news for Phil and the Sarah upgrade, but also for any future titles from Gma games, and with David's propensity for staying quiet about developments I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Shades of do om 2, or some other entirely new title with the Gma engine were around the corner, heck, sinse this is a beta version it's also possible we'll see more additions to the game later and we'll all have to eat our words . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179332#p179332 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Well I'm coming to this one a little late, and I do confess I've not read all 50 odd posts. I also confess I'm waiting until I get back to my desktop at my flat tomorrow before I buy the upgrade, although buy it I will if nothing else to support Gma. On upgrading vs new features, Generally I agree with welshweyr, though obviously I'll need to hear the improved sounds for myself before making up my mind (actually sinse I recently bought some more uba sanheisa headphones I'm quite looking forward to it). On the one hand, yes I was expecting an upgrade similar in scope to Toc 2.0, with new levels, monsters, maybe a level editer etc and I confess I am a trifle disappointed that but for some new sounds and mouse control I'm not getting much in the upgrade. On the other hand, this was entirely my own expectation, not born out by anything David said, and David is notoriously closed on his develo pment plans (and iif I may say so the negativity of some members of the community possibly justifies that). In software terms version numbers are only an indicator. For example the upgrade from supernova 13-4.5 to supernova 13-5.0 wasn't half as big a leap in terms of noticeable user effects as the upgrade from 13-5.1 to 13-5.3, as the changes between the 4 and 5 series while major enough to warrent a more complete number change were not noticeable to the user. I think often with games it is possible to conffuse a new version with an actual sequel. This is why in the Smugglers series when the changelog for smugglers 4.5 became so extensive it completely reworked the game we got Smugglers 5 instead. Maybe we all wanted to see Shades of Doom 2,when in effect what we've got is shades of doom version 2.0. Should david charge for the game? Well on the basis that he probably had to go and collect or reccord new sounds and spent a lot of time on the coding of it, probably yes. On the basis that he hasn't given us the bags of new features we wanted, possibly not. The half way house here seems to be charging a minimal upgrade fee, which with his 5 usd upgrade offer is in effect what David has done. I do think he could've asked more than he did for the Toc upgrade given the extensive number of new features in the game.So, yes, disappointing, but probably not worth the negativity. I will also remind people that one of the other purposes of Shades of doom 2.0 was working out the Gma engine. This is not only news for Phil and the Sarah upgrade, but also for any future titles from Gma games, and with David's propensity for staying quiet about developments I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Shades of doom 2, or some other entirely new title with the Gma engine were around the corner. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179332#p179332 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Well I'm coming to this one a little late, and I do confess I've not read all 50 odd posts. I also confess I'm waiting until I get back to my desktop at my flat tomorrow before I buy the upgrade, although buy it I will if nothing else to support Gma. On upgrading vs new features, Generally I agree with welshweyr, though obviously I'll need to hear the improved sounds for myself before making up my mind (actually sinse I recently bought some more uba sanheisa headphones I'm quite looking forward to it). On the one hand, yes I was expecting an upgrade similar in scope to Toc 2.0, with new levels, monsters, maybe a level editer etc and I confess I am a trifle disappointed that but for some new sounds and mouse control I'm not getting much in the upgrade. On the other hand, this was entirely my own expectation, not born out by anything David said, and David is notoriously closed on his develo pment plans (and iif I may say so the negativity of some members of the community possibly justifies that). In software terms version numbers are only an indicator. For example the upgrade from supernova 13-4.5 to supernova 13-5.0 wasn't half as big a leap in terms of noticeable user effects as the upgrade from 13-5.1 to 13-5.3, as the changes between the 4 and 5 series while major enough to warrent a more complete number change were not noticeable to the user. I think often with games it is possible to conffuse a new version with an actual sequel. This is why in the Smugglers series when the changelog for smugglers 4.5 became so extensive it completely reworked the game we got Smugglers 5 instead. Maybe we all wanted to see Shades of Doom 2,when in effect what we've got is shades of doom version 2.0. Should david charge for the game? Well on the basis that he probably had to go and collect or reccord new sounds and spent a lot of time on the coding of it, probably yes. On the basis that he hasn't given us the bags of new features we wanted, possibly not. The half way house here seems to be charging a minimal upgrade fee, which with his 4 usd upgrade offer is in effect what David has done. So, yes, disappointing, but probably not worth the negativity. I will also remind people that one of the other purposes of Shades of doom 2.0 was working out the Gma engine. This is not only news for Phil and the Sarah upgrade, but also for any future titles from Gma games, and with David's propensity for staying quiet about developments I certainly wouldn't be surprised if Shades of doom 2, or some other entirely new title with the Gma engine were around the corner. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179332#p179332 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Entirely off-topic here, but the idea of security questions is to set up questions for which you will not forget the answers. If you've forgotten your security question answers, you probably didn't choose good security questions. Now I can see situations where you have to choose something like, "What is the name of your favorite pet?" and years down the road, you have to try to remember when you set up that question, so you can know how to answer. On the other hand, questions such as, "What was the last name of your first grade teacher?" don't suffer from this problem, as that answer will never change. Not withstanding some form of time travel, whoever was your first grade teacher was always, is now, and will forever be the correct person. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179322#p179322 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I've tried the demo now. I think most of the sounds are an improvement, although I don't think it has quite the same mysterious atmosphere as before. I wonder what the laser pistol will sound like since the bolt guns already sound like laser guns now. The monster sounds are interesting: they do sound more like mutants than zombies now, which is good but a little confusing. The monster sounds seemed quite quiet though, compared to the other sounds. I've not checked the options menu though to see if I can reduce some sounds to balance them out for my personal preference.I'll definitely pay to upgrade. I don't actually think there's a problem with the price, or the fact that it is chargeable. In all fairness, we had no hints from GMA that there would be new content so it's only our own expectations that are suffering. I will definitely agree that the programming changes are not to be disregarded and that the bug fixes are only to be applauded . Cost aside, TOC did perhaps give some false expectations of what SOD 2.0 would include and David does keep his cards close to his chest so nothing was done to disabuse the community. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179310#p179310 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Well I ordered the game.I am having issue with the paypal site that's being used.The first thing is I can not find a do not create an fricking account.there are 2 login and pay with paypal or use your card and create with paypal.This wouldn't be so bad, I use paypal to do some online tests but I have forgot all my user info.I have so many passwords and paypal is not often used.I have forgot my security questions answers or even remember writing them.and I am stuck in that reguard.I today ordered the game and then tested on a friends box.I am disappointed with the ending, you use the radio and there is no ending.For the price to upgrade I am still wanting to buy at this stage.That may or may not change as this new system goes on.There is only so much craziness I can take and I think I am just about out of patience.I can not see a button near the end of the page that says do not buy with an accou nt.I have managed to copy the order page that allows you to go to paypal though I need to enter my info for what I need to buy and the price into the right boxes and update before I do buy.If I can not find the buttons I am going to try to contact paypal support then get my paypal account reset or something then I will try to link something to it then I will try to order.Though I'd like to find the do not pay with paypal button if I can. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179305#p179305 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi.David could have done a simular thing than companies are doing in the mainstream market.Make a Shades of Doom: Remake, and sold it as a new game for a pretty cheep price. a remake is an old game which has been remade to work on newer systems. For exampel, many old clasics on the playstation 1 and 2 are being remade and soled on the playstation network for a cheep price, so people can play their old favorits again.If David has done the same thing, people wouldn't have been dissapointed at all. Calling a game version 2.0 usually make people to think new features, new levels, new enemies etc. But if a game is a remake, people new from the very beginning that the game is only remade to work on newer systems so people could continue to play their favorit game.Phil: I think most people agree here when i say it would be very much worth it if you charge money for the Sarah upgrade. Why? because there will be many, many new things. So if you take money for all the hard work you have don, people will get a lot for their money. Just my opinion. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179303#p179303 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
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Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Well, the new version still isn't working. The game still says that a game DM file is corrupted. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179298#p179298 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released As for the price, it's ok, but not great from my point of view when it come to being in beta, but it depends on how bad people wants the upgrade. Granted, david may have in deed worked on it alot, or at least did alot of behind the scenes work. I am personal planning on going for the new upgrade, and I'm wondering what the market desides that the price should be. If you notest, I said the market. Ok, I will put it in other turms. If the price is indeed to much, people won't buy it. It's a question, rightfully or wrongly, how bad people want this. As for people demanding that this should be a free upgrade, go read the license. Matter of fact, I will post the licens right here for everyone to read it. this is from 1.2.License AgreementGMA Inc. user license agreement.You may freely distribute the game software, but upon purchase, you must not distribute the product key in any way. The license granted to yo u is nonexclusive and does not grant ownership rights. As a licensed user, you should understand that you do not own the program and the instructional materials that accompany the program. You are only licensed to use the program and instructional materials in accordance with the terms stated in this agreement. ACCEPTANCE OF THE LICENSE AGREEMENTThe terms and conditions of the GMA Software License Agreement explains the legal relationship between GMA and the individual and institutional purchasers of GMA software. By using the software, you acknowledge that you have read this agreement, that you understand it, and that you agree to be bound by all of its terms and conditions. You further agree that this agreement is the complete and exclusive statement of the agreement between you and GMA, and that this agreement supersedes any prior communications, understandings, representations, proposals, or agreements, (whether oral or written) that may exist between you and GMA.If you choose to not accept the terms of this license agreement, then you must promptly uninstall the product registration. COPYING THE PROGRAMThe Licensee may not copy, transfer, decompile, disassemble, or reverse engineer the program or create a derivative work.In the event the Licensee transfers the product key, decompiles, disassembles, or reverse engineers the program or creates a derivative work for another person in any form, except as is specifically authorized, then the Licensee's license to use the program shall be automatically terminated. The Licensee may install and use the program on more than one machine, but only one machine may be used at a time.Whenever the program or instructional materials are reproduced, then the copyright notice must also be reproduced and displayed in its original form.TERMSThe license being granted shall be effective until terminated.The Licensee may terminate the license at any tim e by destroying all copies of the product key regardless of the form.Additionally, this license is immediately terminated in the event the Licensee fails to comply with any term or condition of this agreement, whether or not GMA has knowledge of the failure to comply. The Licensee agrees, as a term of this agreement, to destroy all copies of the product key regardless of form, at such time this agreement is terminated, whether or not the Licensee is instructed to do so by GMA.LIMITED WARRANTY The program provided to the Licensee is being provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including, but not limited to the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. The entire risk as to the quality and performance of the program is with the Licensee.GMA does not warrant that the functions contained in the program will meet the Licensee's requirements or that the operation of the program w ill be uninterrupted or error free. However, GMA warrants the media on which the program is furnished, to be free from defects in materials and workmanship, when in normal use, for a period of ninety (90) days from the date of delivery. The limited warranty will be honored by GMA provided that the media is properly stored in a safe area, and provided that defects in the materials and workmanship of the media do not result from an act of God or other cause beyond the control of GMA or the media manufacturer.LIMITATION OF REMEDIESGMA's entire liability and the Licensee's exclusive remedy shall be the replacement of any media not meeting GMA's limited warranty. In no event will GMA be liable to the Licensee for any damages caused by the use of this software.OTHER PROVISIONSThe Licensee may not sub-license, assign, or transfer this license to another party. Any attempt to sub-license, assign or transfer any of the rights, duties or obligati ons under this agreement shall be null and void and without any legal effect.If you have questions concerning this agreement, con
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi all,For those who were getting an error at startup, I think it has been fix. For all others, ignore this download:http://www.GMAGames.com/sod20011.exe URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179280#p179280 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released HiI didn't buy the update yet, but I at least sent a key replacement so my SOD 1.2 shows up in my account; So far, so good. A few things that were a bit annoying me:- The mouse support seems a bit slow. Is it either me or does the game update slowely when playing the mouse. - Monster sounds should be kind of included in the sounds menu. The sounds did improve, but since they are new, it was rather tricky to recognise them.- The EVA voice (personal thing probably) is worse than the older one.- Object sounds didn't play always, and doors only showed up at the last instant I was near them- Music: well new tracks would be nice since the old one sounds, well, old.As for the beta in general: the feature set sems indeed on the "small" side of things. I think bug fixes for the engine are indeed something valueable, and I'm sure they will benefit GTC and Sarah as well. A few more levels, more enimies, or something t hat changes once you start a second game cycle (teleporter) would be kind of neat. Think I'm off for now, time for me to get some sleep ... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179272#p179272 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Well as a user of the game, I decided to go ahead and buy it.The upgrade price for what I got was a little disappointing though the engine rework seemed to be ok 3d sound though is nonexistant sadly which is a bit of a bummer.Its like it used to be in xp with stereo and at least my realtech card doesn't have issues with stuff.Now to the bad news.I brought the game but apparently the upgrade price was the full price, since I have registered all the 1x games gtc sod and lonewolf on this box there is no way to send the ordering wizard or run it or anything on this system and it seems counterproductive to send another key code with the games installed on another system to register them.After the website thinks you have ordered it the game disappears from your order page and as far as I can see there is no way to get it back again.So I followed the upgrade commands to upgrade and at least get the price.Fine I thought.the net decided to crash.And I never was able to get back to complete the order.there is no resume order function either.I decided to get a key replacement for sod 1.2 since that game was still avalible.I did and low the game disappeared like sod 2 did.Then the game said it was registered and I could play it.This is really messy, games should not disappear no matter what the site thinks you have done.there should be some way to resume orders especially if you have not payed or an email with the link.I can't even find the sounds where to put the sounds for the locutis mod 2.0 back.The engine is sertainly an improvement, levels, well I guess I would like a few more.There are still some major bugs.1. a lot of messages in almost all levels except 3 7 and 8 and 1 were never around at all.One time I played through level1 I had no ammo at all! no items for amo appeared at all.Worse was to follow, monsters bunche d up at points in the level and some items appear all at once or not at all.I even had a situation I think level3 it was where security chips appeared behind locked doors.The blob is to strong in my opinion or to fast.And all monsters are outside their toilets/crates.If that's the case there is no point having a crate or toilet if everything ie monsters and some items are outside it, the only time this was not the case was level2.Is the game worth the upgrade.If you have had the game before the engine is good.and if you have had the game on xp before and want to continue playing it then it is worth upgrading a must have and 9 bucks is not that bad for an upgrade.On the other side though for those getting into the game and don't mind the weird brokenness of 1.2 I prefur the wind sounds and some other fx in that version.The item distribution bar the ocational message was ok but that's neither here or there.I kn ow a lot of work has been done on the engine and it shows.However I would have prefured sounds from the updated 2.0 mod be used rather than the 1.0 version of the mod, never liked that soundpack as much.One feature I would dearly like is ways to make more levels enemies, mods, maybe other weapons, ofcause I know the engine has limitations for that but time of conflict allows for some odding so its possible.Even if you couldn't have more levels, having different mods to play the same levels in well who knows.Clearly there is still a lot to do, due to the replacement issues I had I sent my key manually via email cutting and pasting info from an old data file for a system I had previously.For now the game is fully working, and I'll keep it for as long as it does work.if its straightened out and I get all the issues I put up lastnight resolved I'll pay for the order and that will be the end of it.The only reason to upgrade is the os upgrade thing as xp is no more now.I do like the transporter sound and the fact at sertain points sound does drop in volume at sertain intervils however I don't care for the eva voice.I have never used the mouse just keyboard.Another small issue I have is the fact that if I kill say a monster like a temperal disterbence, and then die or if I kill a monster and load a saved game before I kill it it will not appear.either that or some random generic human will appear in a room I cleared before.or an item randomly.or nothing at all.For what it is I have always liked sod even though its not extended though I wish it was as it was one of my first games like lonewolf and gtc.I'd gladly pay for upgrades.Time of conflict has never interested me to the point where I'd buy it.The featureset is quite small as an upgrade but this new engine has been a long time coming, and I guess we should be thankfull about th e new engine coming at all even though there is little to show for it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179269#p179269 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sa
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Hi,@Sebby, the problem here is that there is a price for something that should have been in existence for years. Whatever the price is, you have to agree that paying for something that does not add any significant feature to the game is really not worth it. Maybe it is just me, but if I pay for a product, I expect free maintenance and support. Paying extra for additional content, or more features is perfectly understandable, but let's be honest: there aren't that many features here that anyone would pay for. This does not mean that David's work is trivial, or nullified. He certainly spent who knows how much time on updating the engine, and adding what we have in SoD 2.0. But yet again, paying for something that does not add any visible, or significant change seems just wrong to me.As a game developer, it is my responsibility to have a maintained and supported product, especially if it is a paid one. If I add content or anything else that adds more value to the game, paying for it is fine. I spent lots of time coding it, after all. But it is not the gamers' fault that I used technologies that are no longer supported. It is not fair, because I will have to spend time and energy on ensuring that it is up to date, but that does not mean that the gamers' will have to pay for it.If nothing else, at least make a sequel, or redesign the levels, something that would make the gamers feel that it is a slightly different game.Maybe I am alone in thinking this, I don't know. I certainly would not choose this path.Rob URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179255#p179255 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
2014-07-02
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Trenton Goldshark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Ah, by any chance someone knows where to get the Shades of doom mod? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179252#p179252 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
2014-07-02
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Trenton Goldshark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released By the way, where can ya get this shades of doo mod that folks seem to be talkin about? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179251#p179251 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I think a lot of people replying have made themselves pretty clear. My essential point is that I object to the trivialisation or nullification of work that David Greenwood has done to bring SOD up to date. No, I don't agree that $10 is too much. I don't own Time of Conflict but I would argue that both the nature of the output and the fact of its having been released more recently make a non-chargeable upgrade much more reasonable. And despite any expectation that people might have, GMA are not obliged to provide a free upgrade simply because people feel that they should get one--even for maintenance patches that would enable games to run on newer operating systems, which I believe is pretty clearly what users have been asking for. It really is the difference between saying, "This release doesn't justify the version number and really ought to have more in it" and "This release does not justify $10". Put it another way: are you going to grudge GMA $10, when the alternative is no update at all? I am not. I agree that given the other available FPSs on what we might call a market, all of them free, there's a pretty clear path for David to take with SOD, and I wonder why he doesn't. But I also respect SOD for what it is, what it was, and intend to support its continued development. And no, I don't believe GMA is using SOD players to subsidise engine development, any more than for his other titles; I think he simply realised that there were costs, and passed them on, and probably realises as well as we do that selling an engine upgrade exclusively for cost would be infeasible. The only grace is that you have every right to complain when the product you actually purchased isn't living up to expectations. Myself, I'd like to see online play in SOD, whenever such a thing is possible, but it's not like I don't have other choices right now. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179250#p179250 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
2014-07-02
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : blindndangerous via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Gald I read this topic before grabbing that link. That's disappointing to charge for that kind of update. I expected more for a whole number change. That should've been just a bug fix if you think about it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179247#p179247 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
2014-07-02
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : assault_freak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Also on a related sidenote to the errors that everyone else is getting, vipmud also seems to give me this problem. I'm using the Japanese locale but an English keyboard layout. Vipmud scrambles everything entered before a locale change unless it's written in all capitals. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179245#p179245 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Well, speaking for myself I certainly have mixed feelings about this new beta. As I am running systems with Windows 7 and Windows 8 the bug fixes and the new more modern audio support alone makes it well worth the $5 for upgrading. So for me it isn't a question of upgrading or not upgrading as I do need the better audio support.That said, like others I am a bit disappointed that there isn't more to this beta than essentially better audio, and mouse support. I have just played through level 1, and while I like the beta well enough I too would like a few new extra levels, perhaps some unlockable or bonus content, and perhaps a couple of new enemies somewhere in the game. However, I won't complain too much about it as I am sure David Greenwood can add those features at any time if he chooses, and this update is a decent upgrade even if it doesn't come with everything I had hoped for.Phil, I have Shades of Doom 2.0 running side by side with version 1. 2 so that is not a problem. Just make sure to install them in different program directories which the games will do by default anyway. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179236#p179236 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released hi.the beta is released, i've tryed it.there is a way to upgrade it to full version, or all of you here can play only the demo version and there is no way to register it now?kamochek. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179233#p179233 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I'm going to reserve judgment until I've tried the game but I am disappointed that the change log isn't fuller. I agree that there are bound to have been plenty of technical changes behind the scenes which wouldn't make sense to me since I don't know anything about programming. No new monsters, levels, weapons, equipment or environments at all is really quite disappointing though. I'll almost certainly pay for this since I do really like David's games and I'm looking forward to using the mouse for a more mainstream feel.I certainly agree that it seems like Time of Conflict gave much more. There was so much good new stuff in it! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179232#p179232 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released I don't really understand the meaning behind the argument that you can use 1.2 as well as 2.0 on the same machine, although it's possible I'm misinterpreting that statement. Of course it's possible to use version 1.2 to retain your modding abilities, but to me that would be just another reason why people are not going to upgrade to version 2.0. Knowing this makes me even less likely to get the newest version because, frankly, the removal of the ability to increase replay value in exchange for mouse support and a few behind the scenes things is a setback to me.On another note, the people getting the regional settings-based error need to be a little more patient. This is a beta, which means it's going to have issues. And while this is a fairly big issue that probably also means it should hopefully be fixed soon. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179231#p179231 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released
Re: Shades of Doom Version 2.0 Public Beta Released Burak,About international computers crashing the game, David just posted:Thanks. That should help. It has something to do with the regional settings since when I switched these I could duplicate your error. That is 90% of the way to fixing it.Regards,David GreenwoodI know he fixed this same bug in version 1.2 but he might have added new features that have the same bug.I think a temporary fix would be to swich your Windows to US settings and a US keybord.Or wait until David fixes the bug. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=179229#p179229 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
