Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

2007-07-27 Thread Andrew McParland
Hi Terry,

Please contact me off the list and we'll have a chat.  As I mentioned, I
only have access to a few extra years of data.

Andrew
BBC Research and Innovation

On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 12:22:50AM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote:
 Andrew,
 
 If you have data going back prior to June 22 2005, how could one obtain
 a copy? 
 
 One of my uses of the TVAnyTime data is to start building an historical
 database that can be searched. I know there are various sites that offer
 this data, but there search capabilities are limited and I'm not sure of
 the quality/completeness of the data itself - it varies from site to
 site.
 
 
 Terry 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McParland
 Sent: Wednesday, 18 July, 2007 19:38
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing
 
 The TV-Anytime files on backstage are working again:
 
 http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/
 
 As some changes are still planned for backstage we'll keep the address
 below working in parallel as well
 
 As for a longer term archive of listings info, in my area we probably
 have a few years extra data whilst we were working on the TV-Anytime
 standard but I'm not sure there's another archive inside the BBC that
 can be made available...  If anyone has one please pipe up :-)
 
 Andrew
 BBC Research ad Innovation
 
 On Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 02:57:31PM +0100, Andrew McParland wrote:
  
  Sorry, we've been having a few problems.  For the moment you can find 
  a more up to date set of TV-Anytime schedule data files at:
  
  http://72.249.74.119/tv-anytime/
  
  Due to this being a temporary measure the address may change, and the 
  files may not be updated as regularly as we would like, but this
 should keep you
  going for a bit.  We are working towards a better solution and, for
 the
  moment at least, we do intend to keep the files of data coming.  We'll
 keep
  you informed as any changes happen.
 
  
  Andrew
 
  BBC Research and Innovation
  
  On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:03:37PM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote:
   
   Mario, Thanks, I know about the API but prefer the files if their 
   going to be maintained... its been a couple of weeks now, so suppose
 I better
   accept the change :(   I'm an old, old UNIX programmer and my tools
 of
   choice are C and shell script - have a high level of inertia with 
   these new java and perl thingies... Worked out how to make the API 
   calls with wget, so just a matter of loading my little database - 
   simple update...Thanks again for the suggestion...

   Terry
   

   
   
   
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Menti
 Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 14:19
 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
 Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing
 
 
 On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   
 Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be
 continuing 
   the TV and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last update was 
   June 21... As screen scraping the web site is illegal, this is the 
   only option available to many of us to get BBC schedules for 
   whatever purpose...
   
 Terry
   
 I don't know about the plans for the TV-Anytime files, but the
 best 
   way to get BBC schedule information is probably through the BBC Web
   API:  http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html
   
 The API can give you query results in both TV-Anytime or a
 slightly 
   simpler XML format.
   
 HTH,
 Mario.
  
   
   
  
   
   
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RE: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

2007-07-25 Thread Flynn, Terry
Andrew,

If you have data going back prior to June 22 2005, how could one obtain
a copy? 

One of my uses of the TVAnyTime data is to start building an historical
database that can be searched. I know there are various sites that offer
this data, but there search capabilities are limited and I'm not sure of
the quality/completeness of the data itself - it varies from site to
site.


Terry 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McParland
Sent: Wednesday, 18 July, 2007 19:38
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

The TV-Anytime files on backstage are working again:

http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/

As some changes are still planned for backstage we'll keep the address
below working in parallel as well

As for a longer term archive of listings info, in my area we probably
have a few years extra data whilst we were working on the TV-Anytime
standard but I'm not sure there's another archive inside the BBC that
can be made available...  If anyone has one please pipe up :-)

Andrew
BBC Research ad Innovation

On Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 02:57:31PM +0100, Andrew McParland wrote:
 
 Sorry, we've been having a few problems.  For the moment you can find 
 a more up to date set of TV-Anytime schedule data files at:
 
 http://72.249.74.119/tv-anytime/
 
 Due to this being a temporary measure the address may change, and the 
 files may not be updated as regularly as we would like, but this
should keep you
 going for a bit.  We are working towards a better solution and, for
the
 moment at least, we do intend to keep the files of data coming.  We'll
keep
 you informed as any changes happen.

 
 Andrew

 BBC Research and Innovation
 
 On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:03:37PM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote:
  
  Mario, Thanks, I know about the API but prefer the files if their 
  going to be maintained... its been a couple of weeks now, so suppose
I better
  accept the change :(   I'm an old, old UNIX programmer and my tools
of
  choice are C and shell script - have a high level of inertia with 
  these new java and perl thingies... Worked out how to make the API 
  calls with wget, so just a matter of loading my little database - 
  simple update...Thanks again for the suggestion...
   
  Terry
  
   
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Menti
  Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 14:19
  To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
  Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing
  
  
  On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be
continuing 
  the TV and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last update was 
  June 21... As screen scraping the web site is illegal, this is the 
  only option available to many of us to get BBC schedules for 
  whatever purpose...
  
  Terry
  
  I don't know about the plans for the TV-Anytime files, but the
best 
  way to get BBC schedule information is probably through the BBC Web
  API:  http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html
  
  The API can give you query results in both TV-Anytime or a
slightly 
  simpler XML format.
  
  HTH,
  Mario.
   
  
  
   
  
  
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Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

2007-07-18 Thread Andrew McParland
The TV-Anytime files on backstage are working again:

http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/

As some changes are still planned for backstage we'll keep the address below
working in parallel as well

As for a longer term archive of listings info, in my area we probably have a
few years extra data whilst we were working on the TV-Anytime standard but
I'm not sure there's another archive inside the BBC that can be made
available...  If anyone has one please pipe up :-)

Andrew
BBC Research ad Innovation

On Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 02:57:31PM +0100, Andrew McParland wrote:
 
 Sorry, we've been having a few problems.  For the moment you can find a more
 up to date set of TV-Anytime schedule data files at:
 
 http://72.249.74.119/tv-anytime/
 
 Due to this being a temporary measure the address may change, and the files
 may not be updated as regularly as we would like, but this should keep you
 going for a bit.  We are working towards a better solution and, for the
 moment at least, we do intend to keep the files of data coming.  We'll keep
 you informed as any changes happen.
 
 Andrew 
 BBC Research and Innovation
 
 On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:03:37PM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote:
  
  Mario, Thanks, I know about the API but prefer the files if their going
  to be maintained... its been a couple of weeks now, so suppose I better
  accept the change :(   I'm an old, old UNIX programmer and my tools of
  choice are C and shell script - have a high level of inertia with these
  new java and perl thingies... Worked out how to make the API calls with
  wget, so just a matter of loading my little database - simple
  update...Thanks again for the suggestion...
   
  Terry
  
   
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Menti
  Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 14:19
  To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
  Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing
  
  
  On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be
  continuing the TV and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last
  update was June 21... As screen scraping the web site is illegal, this
  is the only option available to many of us to get BBC schedules for
  whatever purpose... 
  
  Terry
  
  I don't know about the plans for the TV-Anytime files, but the
  best way to get BBC schedule information is probably through the BBC Web
  API:  http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html
  
  The API can give you query results in both TV-Anytime or a
  slightly simpler XML format. 
  
  HTH,
  Mario.
   
  
  
   
  
  
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RE: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

2007-07-08 Thread Flynn, Terry
Is there any way I can get Program Schedules prior to June 2005 - which
is the start if the TVAnyTime listings? Does not have to be TVAnyTime
format...
 
I'm trying to build up a historical database to answer researchers
questions. I know the BBC Programme Catalogue is there for that purpose,
but it's only Beta and not accurate enough yet. Example, a search of
Afternoon Play and The Afternoon Play totals 14 shows for 2006 for
Radio 4, which I know is not correct.
 
Terry
 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Leach
Sent: Saturday, 7 July, 2007 23:13
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing


Thanks Andrew,

I've been meaning to change my web site to use the api, but that
gives me a chance to enjoy the weekend of sport.

Adam

Andrew McParland wrote: 

Sorry, we've been having a few problems.  For the moment
you can find a more
up to date set of TV-Anytime schedule data files at:

http://72.249.74.119/tv-anytime/

Due to this being a temporary measure the address may
change, and the files
may not be updated as regularly as we would like, but
this should keep you
going for a bit.  We are working towards a better
solution and, for the
moment at least, we do intend to keep the files of data
coming.  We'll keep
you informed as any changes happen.


Andrew

BBC Research and Innovation

On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:03:37PM +0800, Flynn, Terry
wrote:
  

Mario, Thanks, I know about the API but prefer
the files if their going
to be maintained... its been a couple of weeks
now, so suppose I better
accept the change :(   I'm an old, old UNIX
programmer and my tools of
choice are C and shell script - have a high
level of inertia with these
new java and perl thingies... Worked out how to
make the API calls with
wget, so just a matter of loading my little
database - simple
update...Thanks again for the suggestion...
 
Terry

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mario Menti
Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 14:19
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and
Radio 7-day listing


On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

Sorry if I missed any
announcement - will Backstage be
continuing the TV and Radio schedules in
TVAnyTime XML format? Last
update was June 21... As screen scraping the web
site is illegal, this
is the only option available to many of us to
get BBC schedules for
whatever purpose... 

Terry

I don't know about the plans for the
TV-Anytime files, but the
best way to get BBC schedule information is
probably through the BBC Web
API:
http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html

The API can give you query results in
both TV-Anytime or a
slightly simpler XML format. 

HTH,
Mario.
 


 




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Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

2007-07-07 Thread Adam Leach

Thanks Andrew,

I've been meaning to change my web site to use the api, but that gives 
me a chance to enjoy the weekend of sport.


Adam

Andrew McParland wrote:

Sorry, we've been having a few problems.  For the moment you can find a more
up to date set of TV-Anytime schedule data files at:

http://72.249.74.119/tv-anytime/

Due to this being a temporary measure the address may change, and the files
may not be updated as regularly as we would like, but this should keep you
going for a bit.  We are working towards a better solution and, for the
moment at least, we do intend to keep the files of data coming.  We'll keep
you informed as any changes happen.

Andrew 
BBC Research and Innovation


On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:03:37PM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote:
  

Mario, Thanks, I know about the API but prefer the files if their going
to be maintained... its been a couple of weeks now, so suppose I better
accept the change :(   I'm an old, old UNIX programmer and my tools of
choice are C and shell script - have a high level of inertia with these
new java and perl thingies... Worked out how to make the API calls with
wget, so just a matter of loading my little database - simple
update...Thanks again for the suggestion...
 
Terry


 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Menti
Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 14:19
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing


	On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be
continuing the TV and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last
update was June 21... As screen scraping the web site is illegal, this
is the only option available to many of us to get BBC schedules for
whatever purpose... 


Terry

I don't know about the plans for the TV-Anytime files, but the
best way to get BBC schedule information is probably through the BBC Web
API:  http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html

The API can give you query results in both TV-Anytime or a
slightly simpler XML format. 


HTH,
Mario.
	 



	 





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Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

2007-07-05 Thread Mario Menti

On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be continuing the TV
and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last update was June 21... As
screen scraping the web site is illegal, this is the only option available
to many of us to get BBC schedules for whatever purpose...

Terry


I don't know about the plans for the TV-Anytime files, but the best way to
get BBC schedule information is probably through the BBC Web API:
http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html

The API can give you query results in both TV-Anytime or a slightly simpler
XML format.

HTH,
Mario.


RE: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

2007-07-05 Thread Flynn, Terry
Mario, Thanks, I know about the API but prefer the files if their going
to be maintained... its been a couple of weeks now, so suppose I better
accept the change :(   I'm an old, old UNIX programmer and my tools of
choice are C and shell script - have a high level of inertia with these
new java and perl thingies... Worked out how to make the API calls with
wget, so just a matter of loading my little database - simple
update...Thanks again for the suggestion...
 
Terry

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Menti
Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 14:19
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing


On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be
continuing the TV and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last
update was June 21... As screen scraping the web site is illegal, this
is the only option available to many of us to get BBC schedules for
whatever purpose... 

Terry

I don't know about the plans for the TV-Anytime files, but the
best way to get BBC schedule information is probably through the BBC Web
API:  http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html

The API can give you query results in both TV-Anytime or a
slightly simpler XML format. 

HTH,
Mario.
 


 




[backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing

2007-07-04 Thread Flynn, Terry

Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be continuing the TV
and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last update was June 21...
As screen scraping the web site is illegal, this is the only option
available to many of us to get BBC schedules for whatever purpose...

Terry