Re: Why BBE pisses me off

2011-08-22 Thread Craig Heilman

On Aug 21, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Lawrence San wrote:

> > I still have my 4.5 CD in a box somewhere...
> 
> Bah, you kids today. I remember when BBEdit came sandwiched between two rocks 
> -- the same rocks we used to grind our meat with. That's why they called it 
> "bare bones."

*Snicker* I still have my first edition "Doesn't Suck" t-shirt (came free in 
the mail for being a good customer) and recall meeting Rich at MacWorld Expo SF 
circa 1993/94? or so. Now where did I put those damn floppies...

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Re: Clarifications about Sharing Application Support & Preferences Data via Dropbox

2011-08-22 Thread Alex Popescu


On Aug 22, 2:20 am, Rich Siegel  wrote:
> On Sunday, August 21, 2011, Bucky Junior 
> wrote:
>
> >Not something I've tried but I specifically recall reference to having
> >to create a "Library" named file in the Dropbox folder. So, the
> >Dropbox path should be something like: ~/Dropbox/Library/Application
> >Support/BBEdit/
>
> That would not be correct. If your Dropbox is in your home
> directory, then create an "Application Support" folder and drag
> the "BBEdit" folder from ~/Library/Application Support/ INTO the
> folder in your Dropbox, thus: ~/Dropbox/Application Support/BBEdit/.
>


Just a quick follow up: this reply doesn't answer the original
question.

Alex://

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Re: [ANN] BBEdit 10.0.2 (3077) pre-release

2011-08-22 Thread Miraz Jordan
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:06, Rich Siegel  wrote:
> *   [214387] Fixed bug in which documents would open but fail to show
>    the insertion point (or would show the insertion point but not
>    accept typing) in situations where `Editor_AlwaysOpenQuickFind` was
>    turned on.
>

Thank you. That had been a real nuisance for me and this has indeed
fixed it. :-)

Cheers,

Miraz


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Re: Edit both start and closing HTML tags at once?

2011-08-22 Thread Kerri Hicks


On Aug 22, 1:04 pm, Tudor  wrote:
> Hi, I am new to BBedit, testing the demo version currently.
>
> I was wondering if it's possible to edit both start and closing HTML
> tags at once, for example transforming something like
> Lorem ipsum
> into
> Lorem ipsum.
>
> Any ideas?

I would do it by...(all keystrokes are mine, and are probably not
defaults)

Highlighting the line (cmd-L)
Remove Markup (under Markup Utilities) (cmd-shift-X)
Use the Clipping for div_class (cmd-shift-D)

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Re: Scripting search/replace

2011-08-22 Thread verdonv
After looking through the BBEdit script library, I realize the problem
is that the 'replace' actually returns an integer that represents the
number of instances of the pattern changed, and not the changed
string. I know it seems silly, but given this, and the way that
Clippings work, I think I'll have to fudge this so that the
applescript does the replace on the selection, then copies the
modified selection and returns it to the clipping, so the clipping can
insert it... seems kind of round-about, but I really want to keep all
this within the clipping set.

Anyways, this is an applescript question and not a BBEdit question, so
I'll take the discussion to a more appropriate forum.

tty,
v

On Aug 20, 7:27 pm, verdonv  wrote:
> Yes, that's the sort of direction I was trying to go with the 'as
> alias' thing... My thoughts, a) create a string from the contents of
> the selection, b) run the replace on the string, c) return the string,
> which the clipping will replace the original selection with... I just
> don't know much about applescript ;-)
>
> My original attempt works, but also produces the error/alert.
>
> v
>
> On Aug 20, 6:33 pm, Christopher Stone 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 20, 2011, at 15:54, verdonv wrote:> Thanks for the feedback and the 
> > example. I like the simpler pattern too :-)
>
> > __
>
> > Hey Verdon,
>
> > You bet.
>
> > > As to why I am activating it from a clipping, well because it is part of 
> > > a bigger set of clippings. Clippings are the sensible method for most of 
> > > the set. This one is the oddball, but I want to keep everything together 
> > > in one toolbox, so to speak.
>
> > If I understand the clipping/script mechanism correctly the script must 
> > return a text value, which the clipping will emplace.
>
> > The trouble is that your script acts on the selection, and then the 
> > clipping wants to change the selection again to the output of the script.
>
> > I was going to say that you could go ahead and get the selection after the 
> > replace and return it, but there's some funky issue with whitespace getting 
> > eaten.
>
> > --
> > Best Regards,
> > Chris

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[ANN] BBEdit 10.0.2 (3077) pre-release

2011-08-22 Thread Rich Siegel

Good { morning, afternoon, evening },

The announcement of a pre-release version on the list may come 
as a surprise to some of you. :-) When preparing maintenance 
updates (which primarily consist of bug fixes, with few to no 
new features), we're going to post notification of the new 
versions to this list, so that anyone who's interested can take 
the new build for a spin.


Note that these are _pre-release_ versions. The intent is to fix 
bugs and address areas of improvement based on what our 
customers have reported. However, since the software is at this 
point not fully tested, there _may_ be bugs and regressions. If 
this prospect makes you nervous, then sticking with the public 
release versions is your best course of action. Nobody will be 
offended if you choose to do so; you're under no obligation to 
install and use anything but a public release. :-)


Following is a summary of the changes in the software since the 
last public release. The change notes are organized into 
additions, changes, and fixes, and are annotated where 
appropriate with case numbers. So if you recognize a number 
corresponding to a support case that was opened for you, you can 
now verify that it's been fixed correctly.


One final note: If you run into a bug in a pre-release version, 
PLEASE DO NOT REPORT THE BUG TO THE LIST. This includes asking 
about whether others have seen the same problem. Instead, please 
send a bug report to  and we will deal 
with it there. This will help us keep the list discussion on 
topic and productive for all list members.




version 10.0.2 (3077)   (8/22/2011)

Additions
-

o   (none in this build)

Changes
---

o   (none in this build)

Fixes
-

*   [213323, 216590] Fixed crash which would occur because the "Edit
Filter" button in the text factory options dialog was not disabled
when it should have been, allowing an inappropriate operation.

*   [212755] In addition to the beep when starting with Shift or Option
held down, BBEdit will now notify with Growl.

-   [213895] Fixed a bug in which `\end` commands which close off
math-related blocks in TeX documents were not being syntax colored
as commands (keywords).

-   [216672] Fixed a bug in the Ruby Language Module where it 
was being
a little too aggressively lazy in looking for weird 
operators. So
`=`` is now seen as an assignment followed by the opening 
delim of a
type of string token, rather than some Frankendelimiter. 
(As if Ruby

would allow you to have weird delimiters...)

*   [214387] Fixed bug in which documents would open but fail to show
the insertion point (or would show the insertion point but not
accept typing) in situations where 
`Editor_AlwaysOpenQuickFind` was

turned on.

*   Fixed bug in which hiding the file view while it had 
keyboard focus

would leave the focus in the Quick Find box if it was visible,
rather than in the edit view.

*   [216287] Differences lists no longer have a horizontal scrollbar.

*   Fixed bug in which expanding a folder in a project window's file
list didn't put close widgets in the items corresponding to open
documents.

*   [216736, 216745] Fixed bug in which conflicts were not detected
when assigning a keyboard equivalent for a 
script/filter/etc in the

Menus & Shortcuts preferences.

*   [216721, 216744] [NFR] Fixed regression in which "Save a Copy"
reported an error instead of functioning as intended.

=end=

The package can be downloaded from our web server:



Enjoy,

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Re: changes to "Find"

2011-08-22 Thread ecke


On 6 Aug., 15:53, Bill Thayer  wrote:

> The two separate Find windows don't make much sense; all the more so
> that if you change one, the other is changed as well. (The two
> separate windows might make some sense if they allowed us to have one
> search in a document, the other over a set of document. Even then, not
> much.)

Bill,

I recently posed an announcement of my tiny collection of AppleScripts
to change the behaviour of the new find dialogs but it may have been
overseen. Specifically the scripts make sure you will get (the
impression of) just one find window back into your workflow. Toggling
between multi- and single file search works again with CMD-M, like
does the opening of the HTML markup dialog when working in an HTML
document. Just like in past days! ;-)

So, apologies for quoting myself, but I think the scripts may really
help some of the fellow BBEdit users.



BBPony 0.1 is a small collection of AppleScripts which aim to emulate
aspects of the behavior of the deprecated modal find dialog in BBEdit
10. It's free for anyone to use or modify. For some of the long-time
users of BBEdit who recently upgraded to version 10 this may be
really
handy (or, even a Pony ;-)

I made a little Website with detailed installation instructions,
download link and some more explanation:



Check it out and tell me what you think!

Patrick

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Re: Edit both start and closing HTML tags at once?

2011-08-22 Thread Tudor
Search and replace is OK if I want to modify many tags at once, but
for editing a single tag is overkill.

Thanks,
Tudor

On 22 aug., 20:29, go...@fred.net wrote:
>  This would be done with GREP search and replace within BBE.
>   BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }
>  On Mon 11/08/22 13:04 , Tudor  wrote:
>  Hi, I am new to BBedit, testing the demo version currently.
>  I was wondering if it's possible to edit both start and closing HTML
>  tags at once, for example transforming something like
>  Lorem ipsum
>  into
>  Lorem ipsum.
>  Any ideas? This would be a useful addition to the Edit Markup
> command,
>  which (as far as I can tell) only allows changing tag attributes, but
>  cannot rename the tag itself.
>  Thanks,
>  Tudor
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Re: Behavior of Find/Multi file Find - need help changing it

2011-08-22 Thread ecke


On 11 Aug., 20:01, Derrick Peavy 
wrote:
> Used BBEdit since mid 90's and version 4.  Great. But these changes
> are killing me.
> [...]
> How do I get those two behaviors to revert?

Derrick,

I had exactly the same problem with the new behaviour of the non modal
find windows like you had. I posed an announcement of my tiny
AppleScripts to help with the find dialogs recently in this group, but
it may have been overseen, so I answer to this and similar posts
directly. So, apologies for quoting myself, but I think the scripts
may really help some of the fellow BBEdit users.



BBPony 0.1 is a small collection of AppleScripts which aim to emulate
aspects of the behavior of the deprecated modal find dialog in BBEdit
10. It's free for anyone to use or modify. For some of the long-time
users of BBEdit who recently upgraded to version 10 this may be
really
handy (or, even a Pony ;-)

I made a little Website with detailed installation instructions,
download link and some more explanation:



Check it out and tell me what you think!

Patrick

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lue URL LInks

2011-08-22 Thread Joe Walters
Mac OS X: 10.6.8
BBEdit: 10.0.1 and 9.6.8

Every now and then I must click on something that causes any URLs I type to 
immediately turn blue (active) when I surround the URL with < and >.

Removing either of the < or > characters causes the URL to turn "black" and 
putting it back causes the URL to become active again (great fun -:)

I really like this. How do I make it a permanent part of my environment?


Kind Regards
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Re: Edit both start and closing HTML tags at once?

2011-08-22 Thread golem
 This would be done with GREP search and replace within BBE.
  BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }
 On Mon 11/08/22 13:04 , Tudor  wrote:
 Hi, I am new to BBedit, testing the demo version currently.
 I was wondering if it's possible to edit both start and closing HTML
 tags at once, for example transforming something like
 Lorem ipsum
 into
 Lorem ipsum.
 Any ideas? This would be a useful addition to the Edit Markup
command,
 which (as far as I can tell) only allows changing tag attributes, but
 cannot rename the tag itself.
 Thanks,
 Tudor
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Edit both start and closing HTML tags at once?

2011-08-22 Thread Tudor
Hi, I am new to BBedit, testing the demo version currently.

I was wondering if it's possible to edit both start and closing HTML
tags at once, for example transforming something like
Lorem ipsum
into
Lorem ipsum.

Any ideas? This would be a useful addition to the Edit Markup command,
which (as far as I can tell) only allows changing tag attributes, but
cannot rename the tag itself.

Thanks,
Tudor

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Re: Clarifications about Sharing Application Support & Preferences Data via Dropbox

2011-08-22 Thread Rich Siegel

On Monday, August 22, 2011, Jeff Adams  wrote:


Does the Dropbox thing only work if you keep Dropbox installed in the
default location?


It *should* work for non-default locations, but since Dropbox 
doesn't offer a supported means of determining whether the 
Dropbox folder is, BBEdit has to read its settings directly, and 
the Dropbox settings format may have changed in an incompatible 
way. When that happens, BBEdit falls back to using ~/Dropbox/.


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Re: Clarifications about Sharing Application Support & Preferences Data via Dropbox

2011-08-22 Thread Jeff Adams
I don't have Dropbox in the root of my home directory. I've got it
sitting in my Documents directory. So in my case the path ~/Documents/
Dropbox/Application Support/BBEdit/ doesn't seem to work. I can't get
BBEdit to pick up anything in there. Does the Dropbox thing only work
if you keep Dropbox installed in the default location?

On Aug 21, 6:20 pm, Rich Siegel  wrote:
> On Sunday, August 21, 2011, Bucky Junior 
> wrote:
>
> >Not something I've tried but I specifically recall reference to having
> >to create a "Library" named file in the Dropbox folder. So, the
> >Dropbox path should be something like: ~/Dropbox/Library/Application
> >Support/BBEdit/
>
> That would not be correct. If your Dropbox is in your home
> directory, then create an "Application Support" folder and drag
> the "BBEdit" folder from ~/Library/Application Support/ INTO the
> folder in your Dropbox, thus: ~/Dropbox/Application Support/BBEdit/.
>
> R.
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Re: Theme song and "unindicated co-conspiritors"?

2011-08-22 Thread Jon H
> I just learned of this in the About BBEdit box:
>
> http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/editors.mp3
>
> Plus how did my name get listed as an "unindicated co-conspiritors"?
> Do they just add the owner's name in each install?

Hah! Very cool. Thanks for passing along the info.

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Re: Theme song and "unindicated co-conspiritors"?

2011-08-22 Thread LuKreme
On Aug 21, 2011, at 14:35, Peter Mount  wrote:
> It doesn't hurt to have a sense of humour. Should I look out for other such 
> things?

Look out for ponies, they have upgraded hooves.

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