Re: [blfs-dev] fluxbox - hard to move windows
On 18/05/2018 11:44 μμ, Ken Moffat wrote:
Dunno which theme ('style') I had been using (just basically grey
title bars), but changing to Blueflux via the fluxbox menu lets me
move the windows around - but the three icons for min/max/close are
just dark grey globs on light grey backgrounds. Hmm some of the
styles in the list give hard-to-read menus and one of them worked
once for moving but then rolled up. Currently I'm using Makro.
I've seen many times on fluxbox styles bad background - foreground -
highlight combinations in the menus, that made them unreadable. Not
strange, since they are not maintained for a long time. It reminds me
the days I was using fluxbox and was altering the styles to suit my
taste.
Ahh - double-clicking on the title bar DOES rollup the window, some
of my problem is because this mouse is a bit "variable" at sending
clicks. And when it is rolled up, double clicking will then unroll
it.
Sorted! (apart from changing the mouse ;-)
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Re: [blfs-dev] fluxbox - hard to move windows
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 07:40:33PM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
> On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 08:13:20PM +0300, Thanos Baloukas wrote:
>
> > The windows on fluxbox move fine dragging them by the titlebar.
> > Resizing works fine too. All the rest windows' functions perform well
> > with left clicking on the title bar's icons or via the title bar right
> > click menu. I tried the above on several themes and apps. I did not test
> > fluxbox extensively though, since I build it for early xorg testing
> > only.
> >
>
[...]
> I'll stop here for the moment, but will maybe take another look at
> fluxbox if time permits. Hmm, maybe I've forgotten I could
> right-click - ISTR that was a fairly-recent change.
>
Further testing with fluxbox -
The menu is accessible by right-clicking the titlebar. Sometimes I
can drag the window to a titlebar by clicking both mouse buttons,
but at other times only the left is read (might be my timing, or
justthat the mouse on this machine is a bit iffy - this is the one
that initially persuaded me to drop the new input stack, I've now
gone back to it). Dragging with the left continues to roll up the
window. Ahh, I think it must have been a theme issue.
Dunno which theme ('style') I had been using (just basically grey
title bars), but changing to Blueflux via the fluxbox menu lets me
move the windows around - but the three icons for min/max/close are
just dark grey globs on light grey backgrounds. Hmm some of the
styles in the list give hard-to-read menus and one of them worked
once for moving but then rolled up. Currently I'm using Makro.
Ahh - double-clicking on the title bar DOES rollup the window, some
of my problem is because this mouse is a bit "variable" at sending
clicks. And when it is rolled up, double clicking will then unroll
it.
Sorted! (apart from changing the mouse ;-)
ĸen
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Re: [blfs-dev] fluxbox - hard to move windows
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 08:13:20PM +0300, Thanos Baloukas wrote: > On 18/05/2018 04:22 πμ, Ken Moffat wrote: > > On a new build I always use fluxbox as my first windowmanager. With > > the current build this has become "unpleasant" > > > > This is with the radeon driver, I'm hoping that out of my own build > > only fluxbox is affected. > > > > I assume this is fallout from xorg-server-1.20 rather than from > > gcc-8.1. > > > > On an up to date svn installation, mesa built with meson and some > open ticket updates, e.g. libdmx-1.1.4 > > Radeon here too. lspci reports Caicos PRO Radeon HD 7450 > Mine is a Kaveri, lspci says [Radeon R7 Graphics]. > The windows on fluxbox move fine dragging them by the titlebar. > Resizing works fine too. All the rest windows' functions perform well > with left clicking on the title bar's icons or via the title bar right > click menu. I tried the above on several themes and apps. I did not test > fluxbox extensively though, since I build it for early xorg testing > only. > I'm now in icewm - again I cannot move the windows by dragging the titlebar, but I can click on the window menu and use that to move them - so the desktop is usable. I can resize the windows by dragging the edges. This is with everything in the book as at 2 nights ago, except using 4.16.9 for hte headers, and then 4.17.0-rc5 for the kernel (I've got a problem starting unbound-anchor on some machines with 4.17-rc, including this one but not my ryzen, which I'm guessing is related to the kernel config). Oh, and with firefox-60.0.1. Like you, I only use fluxbox for the initial xorg testing. I'll stop here for the moment, but will maybe take another look at fluxbox if time permits. Hmm, maybe I've forgotten I could right-click - ISTR that was a fairly-recent change. ĸen -- This email was written using 100% recycled letters. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] fluxbox - hard to move windows
On 18/05/2018 04:22 πμ, Ken Moffat wrote: On a new build I always use fluxbox as my first windowmanager. With the current build this has become "unpleasant" - I thought that the icon in the top left corner used to bring up a menu for things like moving a window to another desktop (or 'workspace' in fluxbox terms), but it now seems to do nothing (although I've managed to get my initial urxvt term on all 4 desktops). But the real problem is that it has suddenly become painful to move windows (so far, only attempted with glxgears and urxvt): Some themes I've used in the past have had four icons at top right of the titlebar, with the first rolling up the window so that only the titlebar is visible. But I'm using a "regular" theme with just iconify / maximize / close. If I try to drag the titlebar, the window rolls up and the only way to get it back is to click on maximize twice (first to maximize, second click to restore to unmaximized i.e. normal). This is with the radeon driver, I'm hoping that out of my own build only fluxbox is affected. I assume this is fallout from xorg-server-1.20 rather than from gcc-8.1. On an up to date svn installation, mesa built with meson and some open ticket updates, e.g. libdmx-1.1.4 Radeon here too. lspci reports Caicos PRO Radeon HD 7450 The windows on fluxbox move fine dragging them by the titlebar. Resizing works fine too. All the rest windows' functions perform well with left clicking on the title bar's icons or via the title bar right click menu. I tried the above on several themes and apps. I did not test fluxbox extensively though, since I build it for early xorg testing only. -- Thanos -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] fluxbox - hard to move windows
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 08:37:38PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > On 05/17/2018 08:22 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: > > On a new build I always use fluxbox as my first windowmanager. [...] > > Some themes I've used in the past have had four icons at top right > > of the titlebar, with the first rolling up the window so that only > > the titlebar is visible. But I'm using a "regular" theme with just > > iconify / maximize / close. If I try to drag the titlebar, the > > window rolls up and the only way to get it back is to click on > > maximize twice (first to maximize, second click to restore to > > unmaximized i.e. normal). > > > > This is with the radeon driver, I'm hoping that out of my own build > > only fluxbox is affected. > > > > I assume this is fallout from xorg-server-1.20 rather than from > > gcc-8.1. > > Try reinstalling xorg-server-1.19.6 and see if the problem goes away. My > problem with xfce did. I've now restored xorg-server-1.20 and lxqt works. > After I finish plasma (I've done all the others now), I intend to try to > track down my xorg/xfce problem. > My intention is to stop after I've built firefox, then try icewm. If that is fine, I'll stick with it. If it isn't, I guess I'll have to go back to 1.19.6. ĸen -- This email was written using 100% recycled letters. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [blfs-dev] fluxbox - hard to move windows
On 05/17/2018 08:22 PM, Ken Moffat wrote: On a new build I always use fluxbox as my first windowmanager. With the current build this has become "unpleasant" - I thought that the icon in the top left corner used to bring up a menu for things like moving a window to another desktop (or 'workspace' in fluxbox terms), but it now seems to do nothing (although I've managed to get my initial urxvt term on all 4 desktops). But the real problem is that it has suddenly become painful to move windows (so far, only attempted with glxgears and urxvt): Some themes I've used in the past have had four icons at top right of the titlebar, with the first rolling up the window so that only the titlebar is visible. But I'm using a "regular" theme with just iconify / maximize / close. If I try to drag the titlebar, the window rolls up and the only way to get it back is to click on maximize twice (first to maximize, second click to restore to unmaximized i.e. normal). This is with the radeon driver, I'm hoping that out of my own build only fluxbox is affected. I assume this is fallout from xorg-server-1.20 rather than from gcc-8.1. Try reinstalling xorg-server-1.19.6 and see if the problem goes away. My problem with xfce did. I've now restored xorg-server-1.20 and lxqt works. After I finish plasma (I've done all the others now), I intend to try to track down my xorg/xfce problem. -- Bruce -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
