Re: Democracy - and am I the only Person here who is sick of Foolish Subject Titles?
At 05:38 PM 5/6/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote: >If going to Bob Jones University, > is required to win the Republican primary in South Carolina, > Otherwise why go? Yeah, democracy's a real bitch. I don't know that it was required to win to go to Bob Jones University, but the idea that Catholics should object to, say, Seventh Day Adventists voting for the same candidates as we would - is, well, nothing short of absurd. Indeed, anybody who says otherwise doesn't understand the first thing about democracy. After all, the alternative is a set of deep sectarian divisions in which adherents of different religions do not mix and instead stay loay solely to their own sectarian parties. Indeed, Tom Beck is apparently expressing surprise that at least one Catholic has rejected this disutopian alternative, and has instead chosen to be an active participant in a pluralist democracy. Then again, every single thing that Tom Beck has ever had to say about Christianity, let alone Catholics, on this list has been absurd - and its kind of weird that I'm the only guy here who will call him on it.This is no different than that long rant he posted about how worried he was that Christians were daring to *pray* for the President of the United States. Oh the horror Let me put it this way, if George Bush were to come to Columbia Union College (the Seventh Day Adventist College) in Takoma Park and speak, not only would I not be offended - but I would probably try and get tickets to go. JDG - Not getting into the "Republicans Appeal to Racists" chestnut... we have Fools around here for that topic. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Foolish Paranoia Re: Media Bias: NPR Smears Kerry
At 09:06 AM 5/2/2004 -0500 The Fool wrote: >HAGERTY: Those Catholics who hold to absolute truth [snip] >AtriosCommentary: As a helpful reader (sorry, forgot who right now) has >pointed out, St. Matthew's Cathedral in Washington has no Sunday 8:00 >Mass. They have 8:00 masses every other day of the week. Catholics are >supposed to attend mass on Sundays and specific Holy Days - those who >attend mass on other days are particularly hardcore conservative >Catholics. So, this is in no way a random sample of the >Catholic-on-the-street. Just the opposite. No kidding, Sherlock. He opened the segment by saying that he was focusing on particularly devout Catholics. JDG ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: FOOLish
From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FOOLish Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 18:10:11 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Re: FOOLish > Thanks Robert. Now seeing as how your my friend...could you lend me > $5?...American? > Sure, anything else I can do for you? xponent Obligatory Maru rob No thanks. I'll just settle for the cash. -Travis "$" Edmunds _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: FOOLish
- Original Message - From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Re: FOOLish > > >From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: FOOLish > >Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 15:12:43 -0600 > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:58 AM > >Subject: FOOLish > > > > > > > People of the list, > > > > > >Bully for you Travis > >(I wouldn't let it bother me too much. There's forest and there's > >trees, and I think you have made friends here already :) ) > > > > > > > >xponent > >He Stuck An Arm In And Brought It Out Bloody Maru > >rob > > > > Thanks Robert. Now seeing as how your my friend...could you lend me > $5?...American? > Sure, anything else I can do for you? xponent Obligatory Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: FOOLish
From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: FOOLish Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 15:12:43 -0600 - Original Message - From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: FOOLish > People of the list, Bully for you Travis (I wouldn't let it bother me too much. There's forest and there's trees, and I think you have made friends here already :) ) xponent He Stuck An Arm In And Brought It Out Bloody Maru rob Thanks Robert. Now seeing as how your my friend...could you lend me $5?...American? -Travis _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: FOOLish
- Original Message - From: "Travis Edmunds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: FOOLish > People of the list, Bully for you Travis (I wouldn't let it bother me too much. There's forest and there's trees, and I think you have made friends here already :) ) xponent He Stuck An Arm In And Brought It Out Bloody Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: FOOLish
Travis Edmunds wrote: In all honesty, I have no idea what those four memes are. > And quite frankly, I don't overly care. If I ever stumble > across them though, I shall store them in my "clueless" brain. The essay where Dr. Brin described them is easy to miss, unless you've either been reading everything Dr. Brin wrote in the last ten or twelve years, or you've been reading this list for a few years. They're listed in his essay, "The New Meme". You can find a copy here: http://hsv.com/editorials/davidbrin/dbrin2.htm Or in his short story collection, _Otherness_, under the title "The Commonwealth of Wonder". The five memes he describes in the essay are Feudalism, Machismo, Paranoia, "The East", and the new one, "Otherness". It's a good essay, but not so good that I'll think you're "clueless" if you haven't read it. ;-) Wow, it's a small world. I ran a Google search for "Brin new meme", and the first site I found is in a virtual newspaper from right here in Huntsville, Alabama. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama => [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: FOOLish
Travis Edmunds wrote: > "Is 'freedom' one of dr Brins 4 memes? No. Perhaps you should go find out > what these 4 memes are if you are going to post on a Brin list?" > > In all honesty, I have no idea what those four memes are. And quite frankly, > I don't overly care. If I ever stumble across them though, I shall store > them in my "clueless" brain. Read "The New Meme". It's at http://hsv.com/editorials/davidbrin/dbrin2.htm I agree that it was rude to take you to task that way, especially without providing a link to the essay which was referred to. At least as rude as top-posting. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
FOOLish
People of the list, I ask that you forgive me for what I am now about to do, and that you understand the reasons behind it. You see, I have been personally scathed by what I would consider to be an ill-conceived and rather juvenile outburst, on the part of the Fool. This completely unfounded display of despiteful disdain towards my person is crass, antagonistic, and quite needless to say the least. It is also so far below the standards of this list, that it can be branded beyond any doubt, absolute rubbish. Something to be fed to the rats in the gutter, as opposed to the members of this list. And quite frankly I've had my fill. In any case, please understand that I have no intention of lowering myself to the level that the Fool has so eloquently shown he operates on. You see, I do not consort with such venomous creatures that prey on what they consider to be the young and relatively weak members of the herd. Instead, this young buck tends to frown upon such predatory advances. Which is why this message is being posted to the list in the first place. What better way to thwart this behavior, than to bring it into the light? To display it for all to see! Of course this type of posting can go nowhere, and fast. Which is why this will be a one time deal for me. I understand the apprehensions of those who have contacted me, and stated their concerns over what this could turn into. Rest assured though, that I have seen this many a time myself on different forums, and I just want everyone to know, that it will go no further than this post. I can only speak for myself though Moving on... Ah yes, top posting. An unwritten rule of etiquette. Yet people do it all the time. And I, though I don't do it often, fail to see why I deserve such harsh treatment on this score. As a matter of fact, I dont. "Don't top-post. Ever." Thats a little authoritarian don't you think? Moreover, I find it amusing that you would have the audacity to say this to me, and not to the likes of Dr. Brin himself. Someone who "top-posts" quite often. But then you wouldn't have the gumption would you? Of course not! The only reason you singled me out, was due to the fact that you thought I'd be a good target for your own obscene arguments. Branding me a "newbie". Well yes, I am relatively new to the list, but I'm not a complete n00b. And even so, it gives you no cause whatsoever to treat me with such disrespect. "Is 'freedom' one of dr Brins 4 memes? No. Perhaps you should go find out what these 4 memes are if you are going to post on a Brin list?" In all honesty, I have no idea what those four memes are. And quite frankly, I don't overly care. If I ever stumble across them though, I shall store them in my "clueless" brain. Besides, you left no indication that anyone responding was to utilize those four memes, and nothing else. Far be it for me to render an opinion on a topic on this list! Why, it goes against the fundamental premise of the list in the first place right? Nobody is allowed to discuss ANYTHING, unless it ties directly into your own self-prescribed, and might I add, stagnant sense of academia. This is the way you appear to operate. And if you truly believe in your own sense of self-importance, and you're not just an antagonizing and quite bothersome human being for the sake of being antagonizing and bothersome, then you are aptly named THE FOOL. As for your blatant question: "WHAT ARE YOU DOING AN A BRIN LIST?", well I was referred here. By Dr. Brin. So...should I not post here? Perhaps not. At least not as far as you're concerned. Get a life. "Is being a dim-witted top-poster the Meme of the clueless AOL newbie?" "Top-posting makes one look like an AOL newbie using numbers 4 letters and unable to write." Initially I was going to say that comments like those amaze me. But that's just a cliched figure of speech. In actuality, I'm not suprised in the least. People like you can be found everywhere. (Pardon me for generalizing. It's something that I argue against. But in some cases it's an accurate way of describing someone). They can be found in bars, restaurants, schools, post-secondary educational institutions, department stores, the workplace, the playground, on the public transportation system, in your own family, and most notably under rocks. You are a fact of life Fool. One that I accept, but don't tolerate. So I think it best that you refrain from such unrestrained outbursts in the future. It's bad for business. -Travis "that's pretty much all I wanted to say" Edmunds _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Foolish Posters
http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.Pictures/ashcroft.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/.Pictures/enemy2.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/leperous/PhotoAlbum1.html Somebody doesnt like Bush. xponent Funny Though Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l