Mailuefterl Emulator in JavaScript

[Norbert Kehrer via cctalk]

The Mailuefterl (German for "may breeze", an allusion to much bigger US
computers like "Whirlwind" or "Typhoon") was the first fully
transistorized computer in (continental) Europe. It was built at the
Technical University of Vienna (Austria) from 1955 to 1958 by Dr. Heinz
Zemanek and his team. Now the machine does not work any more and can be
seen at the technical museum in Vienna.

In 2007 I wrote an emulator for this pioneering machine as a Java
applet, and now ported it to JavaScript to make it usable again in
modern browsers.

You can try this historical computer as an emulation in your browser at
my site at http://members.aon.at/nkehrer

It contains some original and self-written code snippets to play around
with, and I also shortly described the instruction set of this old machine.

Best regards

Norbert

Re: [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator

[Ed via cctalk]

 
OK  had  to  find photos out on the server I shot ages   ago.
 
sent them to those that asked  on and offlist
As mentioned  we have 2 sets of panels.
they are nice  not  scrap - 
 
Ed#
 
In a message dated 7/9/2017 11:43:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

Tom Van  Vleck  [multicians]
Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:20 AM
Subject:  [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator
To: multicians



The  Multics Simulator now has a packaged non-beta Release 1.0.
Thanks to all  the folks who worked hard on this.

> Begin forwarded  message:
>
> From :Walt  Riordan

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 7/9/2017 7:22 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

Anyone need any blank tapes?  I've got a dozen or so still in their
sealed bags--probably sticky as heck,

Sounds like a test case for my Graham Magnetics certifier box.  :-)
thanks
jim

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 07/09/2017 05:20 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:

> I have inherited maybe 1000 tapes that I will have to sort and see
> if there is any salvaging.  Not sure if they are any use, but it was
> a one time opportunity to snag them.
The silly thing is that a $15 MCU with a SD card can probably handle a
Pertec interface with horsepower to spare.  You could mount an MCU
inside the drive cabinet and use it with a USB or ethernet cable--or
WiFi, if you're ambitious enough for control.   Most of the job is 5V
level shifting.

Such is the world we live in today--silicon is stupid cheap.

Anyone need any blank tapes?  I've got a dozen or so still in their
sealed bags--probably sticky as heck, since they were recycled/refurbed,
then sold.  I suspect that they're probably 80's Memorex--not exactly
good news.  I'm sure as heck not going to use them.

Maybe for a wall decoration?

--Chuck

Re: [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator

[Ed via cctalk]

I will have to refind them
I had circulated them before to some of the  multics people. anyone  still 
have them top of  stack?
Ed#
 
 
In a message dated 7/9/2017 6:25:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
lini...@lonesome.com writes:

On Sun,  Jul 09, 2017 at 08:00:24PM -0400, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> ( we have xtra  set for  sale too... Large...  heavy and many panel  set)

Pictures  please?

mcl

Re: [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator

[Mark Linimon via cctalk]

On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 08:00:24PM -0400, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> ( we have xtra set for  sale too... Large...  heavy and many panel set)

Pictures please?

mcl

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 7/9/2017 1:39 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

  Supporting an F880 with
one of those would be a tough job--256 byte FIFO, 8-bit DMA transfer.
I streamed them without a problem on TX-8 ISA (16 bit card as you 
remembered), and the TXI.


The TC-PC interface could be wirewrapped (we built up 3 examples) and 
ran on just the PC

8 bit bus, and would only handle 12.5ips formatted Pertec (7840 maybe).

But the 16 bit AT bus was plenty fast if you had a 386 or 486 running.  
Certainly the software that
ODI supplies streams.  YMMV if you play games with the records with the 
TX-8.


I think I have the means to make a Linux box with the TXI attached and 
it runs full speed.


I need to build up a bigger system to hold the full sized PCI cards 
again, as the cases I'm favoring

now are mini ITX or such, and get it back to running.

I have inherited maybe 1000 tapes that I will have to sort and see if 
there is any salvaging.  Not

sure if they are any use, but it was a one time opportunity to snag them.

thanks
Jim

Re: [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator

[Ed via cctalk]

need to make an interface that  would  run the big Honeywell  computer  
front  panels we have here... ( we have xtra set   for  sale too... Large... 
heavy and many panel set)
 
Ed#  _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)  
 
 
In a message dated 7/9/2017 11:46:33 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

woot!

there was also a slashdot post about it, with typical  clueless response


On 7/9/17 11:43 AM, Charles Anthony via cctalk  wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Tom Van  Vleck  [multicians]
> Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:20 AM
>  Subject: [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator
> To:  multicians
> 
> 
> 
> The Multics Simulator now has a  packaged non-beta Release 1.0.
> Thanks to all the folks who worked hard  on this.

TRS-80 graphics pad?

[Ken Seefried via cctalk]

Noticed this today...seems like it would have above average fetish
value for the TRS-80 crowd.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Radio-Shack-TRS-80-X-Pad-GT-116-Graphic-Tablet-IN-BOX-UNTESTED-/332274978760?hash=item4d5d21cfc8:g:BrwAAOSwXXxZSxdD

Disclaimer: I have purchased a couple of things from this seller, all
positive experiences, but I have no other interest in their business.

KJ

Re: Any 7 track drives available?

[Curious Marc via cctalk]

We could try to read them off the IBM 1401 7-track. But you'd have to send the 
tapes over here, can't send the computer ;-). Contact me offline of interested.
Marc

On Jul 7, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk  
wrote:

> On 07/07/2017 04:39 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> Can you come up with any HP 7970 drives?
> I have spare 7/9 track read-only combo head stacks
> Don't know of how much time you want to spend on it

(Offlist)

I don't know, Al.  I've got 6 tapes in a batch of 50 that are 7/556 and
are labeled with "Lunar Orbiter" labels.  I suspect that all 5 missions
are covered, but I don't know if I want to even submit a bid on getting
these read.  These are all from the JPL warehouse.  Probably just
digital survey data, but who knows?

The remainder are all late 70s and 80s 9 track.   But these are 66-69
vintage.

Suggestions on how to proceed would be appreciated.

--Chuck

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 07/09/2017 12:57 PM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:

> TC-PC, TX-8, and TC-I.  The latter is a PCI board.  This is probably a
> TX-8.

You're right--the card, as much as I can see of it, matches a TX-8.  I
was thinking of the PCTD-III 8-bit controller.  Supporting an F880 with
one of those would be a tough job--256 byte FIFO, 8-bit DMA transfer.

--Chuck

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 7/9/2017 12:14 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

On 07/09/2017 10:43 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:


Maybe an Overland Data TX-8?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272743761884

Doesn't look like a Computer Logics PCTD16

No, it's not that--the PCTD16 uses ZIP memory--I don't see that.
Perhaps an Overland TX-16.   I don't know if I'd want to hook a streamer
like the F880 to a TX-8--too much "seesaw" action, I'd think.

--Chuck

TC-PC, TX-8, and TC-I.  The latter is a PCI board.  This is probably a TX-8.

I have controller and cable sets available for all of them.  There are 
linux drivers for some version of the kernel for the TX-I  The rest of 
the software runs on windows, and is good to copy and image tapes.


Anyone who would like a loan or can use any of mine, speak up, and I'll 
let you borrow or acquire them.


I've also got a stack of F-880's and an F-990 if any of that helps anyone.

I did at one time have a Pertec NRZI and a PE formatter which would run 
the Pertec 37.5ips tapes, but I am not sure where they went. The former 
would run 556 and 800bpi the latter 1600.  I will have to see if they 
survived and share them if I find them.\


The ODI controllers can run off the P1-P2 formatted Pertec interface off 
of them quite nicely.


thanks
Jim

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[allison via cctalk]

On 07/09/2017 01:43 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>  wrote:
>> On 07/09/2017 07:30 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/8/17 5:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>>>
 From his photo, it does appear to be S100-sized.
>>> I didn't see any 50 pin connectors, or regulators. If you look
>>> closely it's 8-bit ISA. You can see the HD connector on the back
>> I took his photo and enlarged it 800% and came to a similar conclusion.
>>
>> It's an ISA card all right, but 16-bit to my eye.  I posted the
>> information on the VCFed forum.
>>
>> --Chuck
>>
>>
> Maybe an Overland Data TX-8?
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272743761884
>
> Doesn't look like a Computer Logics PCTD16

Its clearly NOT S100.  ISA is likely.


Allison

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 07/09/2017 10:43 AM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:

> 
> Maybe an Overland Data TX-8?
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272743761884
> 
> Doesn't look like a Computer Logics PCTD16

No, it's not that--the PCTD16 uses ZIP memory--I don't see that.
Perhaps an Overland TX-16.   I don't know if I'd want to hook a streamer
like the F880 to a TX-8--too much "seesaw" action, I'd think.

--Chuck

Re: Fwd: [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

woot!

there was also a slashdot post about it, with typical clueless response


On 7/9/17 11:43 AM, Charles Anthony via cctalk wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Tom Van Vleck  [multicians]
> Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:20 AM
> Subject: [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator
> To: multicians
> 
> 
> 
> The Multics Simulator now has a packaged non-beta Release 1.0.
> Thanks to all the folks who worked hard on this.

Fwd: [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator

[Charles Anthony via cctalk]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Tom Van Vleck  [multicians]
Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 7:20 AM
Subject: [multicians] Fwd: Multics dps8m emulator
To: multicians



The Multics Simulator now has a packaged non-beta Release 1.0.
Thanks to all the folks who worked hard on this.

> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From :Walt Riordan
> Subject: Multics dps8m emulator
> Date: July 8, 2017 at 2:18:36 AM EDT
>
>
>
> "Multics Rulez, UNIX droolz!" Multics reborn!
>
> Through the Herculean efforts of many people worldwide the dps8m team is
proud to announce the release of v1.0 of the dps8m emulator.
>
> http://ringzero.wikidot.com/
> http://swenson.org/multics_wiki/index.php?title=Main Page
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/dps8m/
>
> Happy Hacking and long live Multics!
>
> Tom-- Harry Reed sent me this to distribute Multics to the World!
> Walt Riordan

Also, lost in the noise is the release of Multics 12.6f.

-- Charles
__._,_.___

Re: Announcing: VCF PNW

[Michael Brutman via cctalk]

I hear you about the weather and the timing ...  we took a few factors into
account, including the museum schedule, other VCF shows (East in
particular), and the Super Bowl ...  yes, we didn't want to draw traffic
away from them. ;-0

This is the first year so we're going to try it out and learn.  After the
show I plan on doing a post mortem to see what to improve for next year.
And of course, we learn from every show we do.  (VCF West will be our next
big learning opportunity.)


Mike

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Brad H 
wrote:

> I agree.. the LCM+L looks awesome.  And really, winter is an ideal time to
> do vintage computer stuff.  Usually our winters are not that bad up here,
> but this last year we had snow on the ground almost continuously through
> March.  It was brutal.
>
>
>
> Perhaps if weather proves difficult this year, VCF might consider March
> next time?  Esp. with March Break (I think they have that in the US?)..
> makes it easier to travel for those us with kids.
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael Brutman [mailto:mbbrut...@brutman.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 8, 2017 10:30 AM
> *To:* Brad H 
> *Cc:* General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Announcing: VCF PNW
>
>
>
> Seattle in mid-February will be damp, but we're in the low-lands here so
> snow is generally not an issue.  But travelling through the passes or
> through higher elevations can be dicey.
>
>
>
> Once you are here though we'll try to make it good time.  I think the
> LCM+L will be a great venue, and this show will probably look and feel a
> little different from other shows.  The layout of the museum gives us some
> unique opportunities.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Brad H  bettercomputing.net> wrote:
>
> Ooh.  That might be one to bring my TVT and Mark-8 stuff to, provided we
> don't have another winter like we did last year.  I'm up in BC and we just
> got pounded this year with snow and bad weather.. if it's like that again
> I'll have to pass.. BC drivers are terrible on snow.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung device
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Michael Brutman via cctalk 
> Date: 2017-07-07 12:56 (GMT-08:00)
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> Subject: Announcing: VCF PNW
>
> Vintage Computer Federation is pleased to announce an expansion of the
> Vintage Computer Festival series to the Pacific Northwest.
>
> The first VCF PNW will be held at Living Computers: Museum + Labs in
> Seattle, Washington on February 10-11, 2018.  Seattle is a rich and vibrant
> tech hub with beautiful scenery and every variety of rain possible, but it
> has been missing the Vintage Computer Festival experience.  With the
> cooperation of the LCM+L we are fixing that by providing a weekend full of
> interesting exhibits and even more interesting people in what is already a
> great destination.
>
> In the next few weeks we will put out more formal calls for exhibitors,
> volunteers, and speakers.  If you would like to chat feel free to reach out
> to me at mich...@vcfed.org.
>
> Vintage Computer Federation is a national user group serving collectors,
> hobbyists, and anyone interested in the history of computing.  More
> information about the Vintage Computer Federation can be found at
> http://vcfed.org/.  Living Computers: Museum + Labs provides a
> one-of-a-kind, hands-on experience with computer technology from the 1960s
> to the present.  The LCM+L is online at http://www.livingcomputers.org/.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Michael, on behalf of the Vintage Computer Federation
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Virus-free. www.avg.com
> 
>
>
>

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[Glen Slick via cctalk]

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
 wrote:
> On 07/09/2017 07:30 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 7/8/17 5:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>>
>>> From his photo, it does appear to be S100-sized.
>>
>> I didn't see any 50 pin connectors, or regulators. If you look
>> closely it's 8-bit ISA. You can see the HD connector on the back
>
> I took his photo and enlarged it 800% and came to a similar conclusion.
>
> It's an ISA card all right, but 16-bit to my eye.  I posted the
> information on the VCFed forum.
>
> --Chuck
>
>

Maybe an Overland Data TX-8?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272743761884

Doesn't look like a Computer Logics PCTD16

FFS: TZ30 and TK50 cartridges

[Guy N. via cctalk]

Cleaning house!  I have a TZ30 and about a dozen TK50 cartridges I'll
never use.  The TZ30 worked the last time I hooked it up over a decade
ago.  Given the horror stories I've been reading about old tapes, I'm
not going to try it again, I'll leave it to the experts.

Bonus: I have a variety of ISA and PCI SCSI host adapters and cables,
I'll throw one in if you want it.

Free for actual cost of shipping, or meet up in the Seattle/Eastside
area.

VRCX1-WA - no high voltage

[Guy N. via cctalk]

Cleaning house!  I have a Digital VRCX1-WA 21" CRT monitor that seems to
have lost its high voltage to the CRT.  Other than that it is in good
condition: case is cosmetically clean, CRT isn't burned.

Is anyone interested in this, either to repair or to use the CRT as a
replacement?

Free for local pickup, probably not worth shipping.  I'm willing to
drive a reasonable distance in the Seattle/Eastside area to meet up.

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[Chuck Guzis via cctalk]

On 07/09/2017 07:30 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> 
> 
> On 7/8/17 5:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> 
>> From his photo, it does appear to be S100-sized.
> 
> I didn't see any 50 pin connectors, or regulators. If you look
> closely it's 8-bit ISA. You can see the HD connector on the back

I took his photo and enlarged it 800% and came to a similar conclusion.

It's an ISA card all right, but 16-bit to my eye.  I posted the
information on the VCFed forum.

--Chuck

RE: tape baking (Rob Jarratt)

[Rob Jarratt via cctalk]

> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Thompson via cctalk
> Sent: 09 July 2017 15:41
> To: cctech 
> Subject: Re: tape baking (Rob Jarratt)
> 
> >
> > Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 21:19:03 +0100
> > From: "Rob Jarratt" 
> > Subject: RE: tape baking
> >
> > > I long to hear again the sound of the line printer that was attached
> > > to
> > the
> > > DECSYSTEM-20 I used to use. I think it was a drum printer but I
> > > don't
> > know
> > the
> > > model (I may have some materials around that mention the model, not
> > > sure where they are now though). I could never house one of these
> > > though, if
> > any
> > > still exist.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I looked it up, it was a DEC LP20H that they had. I'd love to hear one
> > of those running again. Do any still exist?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Rob
> >
> 
> A while ago the Living Computers: Museum + Labs borrowed my LP20
> controller so they could clone the boards for one of their PDP-10s. Since they
> went through that effort they must have a big line printer.
> 

I have been to LCM a number of times, but I live a *very* long way from there 
and I don't know when I am likely to go again. However, if I do, I will ask 
about any LP20s.

Regards

Rob

Re: tape baking (Rob Jarratt)

[Michael Thompson via cctalk]

>
> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 21:19:03 +0100
> From: "Rob Jarratt" 
> Subject: RE: tape baking
>
> > I long to hear again the sound of the line printer that was attached to
> the
> > DECSYSTEM-20 I used to use. I think it was a drum printer but I don't
> know
> the
> > model (I may have some materials around that mention the model, not sure
> > where they are now though). I could never house one of these though, if
> any
> > still exist.
> >
>
>
> I looked it up, it was a DEC LP20H that they had. I'd love to hear one of
> those running again. Do any still exist?
>
> Regards
>
> Rob
>

A while ago the Living Computers: Museum + Labs borrowed my LP20 controller
so they could clone the boards for one of their PDP-10s. Since they went
through that effort they must have a big line printer.

-- 
Michael Thompson

FS: HP 9825B Calculator

[Sellam Ismail via cctalk]

I am selling a HP 9825B "Calculator" in what seems to be perfect functional
condition and pretty darn good cosmetic condition.

Full details and photos are here:

http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?58603-HP-9825B-working-condition-with-good-tape-drive-roller

Thanks!

Sellam

FS: Motorola M68000 Design Kit

[Sellam Ismail via cctalk]

I have a Motorola M68000 Design Kit for sale.  This is a kit that contains
all the basic chips necessary to build a 68000-based computer.

Full details and photos are here:

http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?58605-Motorola-M68000-Design-Kit=467778#post467778

Thanks!

Sellam

FS: National Semiconductor Series 32000 Designer Kit

[Sellam Ismail via cctalk]

I am selling a National Semiconductor Series 32000 Designer Kit.  This is a
(new/unused) kit in the original box that includes the core chips necessary
to build a 32-bit UNIX system based on the NS32032 microprocessor,
including pre-programmed system EPROMs and an operating system on 5.25"
floppy diskette.

Full details are here:

http://www.vcfed.org/forum/showthread.php?58604-National-Semiconductor-Series-32000-Designer-Kit-Complete

Thanks!

Sellam

Re: Line printer art: (was Re: tape baking)

[Jeff Woolsey via cctalk]

You know, I have about four different tapes with those Harbison posters
on them.  Different formats, too.  They're probably ubiquitous by now.

For those of you without printers who still want to see the posters,
asciitopgm from the netpbm package can be coaxed to do this.  See
http://netpbm.sourceforge.net/doc/asciitopgm.html .   Coals to
Newcastle, anyone?

-- 
  Jeff Woolsey
  j...@jlw.com

Re: Cipher F880 with S100 interface card on local CL

[Al Kossow via cctalk]

On 7/8/17 5:18 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:

> From his photo, it does appear to be S100-sized.

I didn't see any 50 pin connectors, or regulators. If you
look closely it's 8-bit ISA.
You can see the HD connector on the back

Re: db9 requirements

[David Brownlee via cctalk]

On 6 July 2017 at 23:39, Henry Bond  wrote:



> [image of back of sparc]
> I believe I have a graphics output device, preliminary ebay searches find
> the sun video to vga-dsub hard to come by, at least for the UK. Maybe an
> original monitor? Happy to take suggestions :)
>

Ahh yes. I'm going to guess cg3 (basic 8 bit framebuffer) from that angle :)

Looks like Sun 13W3 to VGA adaptors are around £20 inc shipping from the
states, though obviously suns are very nice on serial console if you don't
have the space for random monitors.


> Also hard drives appear to be a rare commedity that have the appropriate
> connections and are internal and in a functional state.
>

Wow, they really have gone up (just looked at eBay). Other options include
a 50pin to modern SCSI adaptor or even something like
http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD

Of course Sun's work really well netbooted if you have some other random
box to provide rarp, dhcp & nfs (add in bootparams for older OSs). A very
long time ago I was running a public access cluster and happened to be on a
different continent for a couple of years. Some of the suns had rather
dodgy disks which would crap out and need a reformat to get back. It was
quite nice to be able to netboot, then run a script to reformat, install
and reboot back into service from nine timezones away :)

David