14th Community Update released

[William Lai]

Hello lists!


Welcome to the 14th community update, covering March 6th ~ 20th, 2009.

As always, there was no shortage of news in the past weeks. 
Distributions including Om2009, Android and Qt Extended Improved all 
received their share of updates.  The first Openmoko Programming 
Competition, hosted by Aapo Rantalainen and Risto H. Kurppa, was 
announced and the winner will now get a prize provided by the community, 
currently at 314€ and a leather case for Freerunner (39€)!  A week 
later, a second contest was announced by Rakshat Hooja, where the 
current  bounty stands at 125€.  Discussions continued on the subjects 
of cool chess games, browsers on the Neo, and of course, keyboards (we 
love our keyboards), and much more.

Be sure to check the newsletter available with links at:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/March_20%2C_2009


Cheers,
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Re: Openmoko toolchain error

[rakshat hooja]

After re looking at the wiki (thanks to Jozef's suggestion) I used the
unofficial libtool. That problem seems to be solved


Now i have the following error (full log attached)

/usr/lib/libmokoui2.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [openmoko-sample] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/shakti/openmoko-sample2/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shakti/openmoko-sample2'
make: *** [all] Error 2


If i understand this correctly my libmokoui2-dev package may be corrupted?
Should i download this also from another source?


Thanks for your help

Rakshat

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Shaz  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM, rakshat hooja  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and I followed the instructions at -
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain
>> Everything works fine up till the 'Building the sample application
>> segment'. I tried to run as root as well but I was unable to build it. The
>> log is attached for both attempts.
>>
>
> Path to the toolchain is giving problems. Are you sure that openmoko
> toolchain is present and all the required headers and libraries are where
> they should be. Did the opkg-target update work? If it did work then its
> something else.
>
> I use the toolchains alot on Ubunut 8.10 and 8.04 and I never had such a
> problem although never tried the sample application :)
>
>
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>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Rakshat
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check filesystem every n mounts (was Re: qt extended stops receiving sms)

[Robin Paulson]

2009/3/19 Robin Paulson :
>> If it is the same for you (I mean you use QText from uSD) try fsck.
>
> i've been having the same problem with .12 installed on internal flash
>
> as it's internal flash and not microsd, i can't take it out and check
> it in my laptop, and i recall there are issues with fsck'ing a mounted
> filesystem - how can i check it without causing problems? is there a
> way to autocheck it at boot?

ok, in answer to my own question, i did some research on filesystem
checking, and discovered 'tune2fs' is the programme i need to set the
fs to be checked at regular intervals

this is the command i came up with, i.e. to check the internal flash
every 10 mounts

tune2fs -c 10 /dev/mtdblock6

i chose mtdblock6, as it's the filesystem listed in fstab, which is mounted to /

when i run this, it gives me an error:
tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/mtdblock6

which i don't entirely understand. any suggestions what's going on here?

cheers

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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Stefan Monnier]

>> No, a sane fallback would be to signal an error and exit.
> that's no fallback -- that's an exit strategy.

For a problem detected at startup, it's much better than
a bogus fallback.
After all, a missing HOME envvar, or a $HOME that points to a missing
directory is the result of a misconfiguration that needs to be fixed in
any case.


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Re: "Multitouch" on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

[Stefan Monnier]

> Unfortunately, the jitter has many interpretations.
> * The user is moving the fingers apart
> * The user is moving the fingers together
> * The user holds the finger still, but pressure varies

I think the jitter you should see with multitouch should be quite
different from finger moves: much higher frequency.


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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

[xChris]

Where can I get that kernel ?
Thanx in advance.

Chris


Tom R wrote:
> 
> 
> yes, it is WPA PSK, on two different locations
> I have a gta02v5
> maybe you failed to install the modules for your kernel (IIRC, one of 
> the modules is crypto support, which means it is needed for WPA
> connections)
> 
> regards
> Tom
> 
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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

xChris escribió:
> btw, I am trying to connect to a WPA network. (it worked ok with the 4.4.2
> version) 
> just I am curious if your networks that your connected are open.
> then.. i have no clue why it work for you and not for me... maybe my h/ware
> is buggy (its the GTA02v6).
>
> chris
>   
yes, it is WPA PSK, on two different locations
I have a gta02v5
maybe you failed to install the modules for your kernel (IIRC, one of 
the modules is crypto support, which means it is needed for WPA connections)

regards
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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

[xChris]

btw, I am trying to connect to a WPA network. (it worked ok with the 4.4.2
version) 
just I am curious if your networks that your connected are open.
then.. i have no clue why it work for you and not for me... maybe my h/ware
is buggy (its the GTA02v6).

chris
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Re: Buzz Issues - Last Questions, I promise

[ezuall]

@All:  Thank you for the responses, I've asked similar questions with no
response.
@Paul:  Bluetooth is one of the options I have been considering, and it's
good to know that it may be just around the corner for me.
@David:  Thank you for the links, I did read some posts about the buzz fix
party, and I love the idea.  This is great news, but only if you happen to
be in the right country.  I appreciate openmoko's involvement, but this
isn't an official fix.  That being said, the fact that users are able to do
the fix is one of the empowering things of Open Source Software/Hardware,
and why I still don't see any better alternatives to the Freerunner out
there (when it comes to open philosophy and community involvement).
@Risto:  I agree, I'm happy for them too, but would like to be happy for me
before my Freerunner's 1 year anniversary.

And finally I just want to say that I really am a supporter of Openmoko.  I
followed the project for more than a year before finally getting my hands on
a Freerunner as soon as I was able to after the release.

All the best
ezuall
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Re: [All] Suggested IMAP client?

[William Kenworthy]

Yes, this would be nice.  In the meantime, Ive fallen back to
squirrelmail on my webserver and midori to read it on the FR.  Works ok,
but is there a better webmail more suited to a small screen?  Its also
limited to only some email accounts I want to read - I cant access my
work mail this way for instance.

BillK

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> using SHR-Unstable at the moment, but I figure it's a reasonable
> question for all distros.
> 
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> 
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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

xChris escribió:
> sorry to say the the wireless patch [1] is not only useless but worst (in my
> case, as it even NOT connects to wlan).
>
> I use the kernel [2] and the binary snapbuild 16032009.
>
> any ideas  are welcome,
>
> regards
>
> chris
>
> [1] http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/6
> [2]
> http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin
>   
it works great for me, but I also fixed the dns resolving issues in 
/etc/resolv.conf

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

[xChris]

sorry to say the the wireless patch [1] is not only useless but worst (in my
case, as it even NOT connects to wlan).

I use the kernel [2] and the binary snapbuild 16032009.

any ideas  are welcome,

regards

chris

[1] http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/6
[2]
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Re: [All] Suggested IMAP client?

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Cameron Frazier escribió:
> As per the subject, is there a suggested IMAP client for the FR? I'm
> using SHR-Unstable at the moment, but I figure it's a reasonable
> question for all distros.
>
> Kind regards,
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On QtE, the integrated imap client works wonders (however, since my 
account has 14k mails, it slows down to a crawl)

regards
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[All] Suggested IMAP client?

[Cameron Frazier]

As per the subject, is there a suggested IMAP client for the FR? I'm
using SHR-Unstable at the moment, but I figure it's a reasonable
question for all distros.

Kind regards,

Cameron

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Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN

[Jakob]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Anton Persson  wrote:
> Hi folkz!
>
> I just wanted to request user feedback for my app SATAN, if there are _any_
> users out there.. I know
> some people have at least tried, and hopefully all have succeeded, to
> install and start the application..
>
> But I want to know; have anyone succeeded making some noise with it? What
> are your thoughts?
> Do you want any specific improvements or changes?
>
>     Best regards,
>   Anton Persson

On my shr-testing it runs and i get some noise out of it, too. So it's
fun making some sounds with it, but i must admit that i didn't had
much time yet to get any deeper into it. Although it's quite awesome.

Jake

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Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Anton Persson  wrote:
> Hi folkz!
>
> I just wanted to request user feedback for my app SATAN, if there are _any_
> users out there.. I know
> some people have at least tried, and hopefully all have succeeded, to
> install and start the application..
>
> But I want to know; have anyone succeeded making some noise with it? What
> are your thoughts?
> Do you want any specific improvements or changes?

Hi there!

I played with it when it was new. I was able to make some noise with
it back then but now because of this request I decided to try it again
to be able to tell you some experiences.

1) Rename it. Yeah, I know it's nice to provoke people etc but to me
it just sounds stupid. And I know there's an acronym behind it and I
know there are people who like the name but.. well, it's your choice
and you must decide if you figure out if it makes people use the app
more or less. Less, if you're asking me. MusicMachine or similar would
a) describe the app better b) provoke less. Just my opinion.

2) Add an icon in .ipk package. I installed to 2008.12+Kustomized, no
icon was shown.

3) First run I get a message that Enlightenment was not able to run
'satan -u k'.. Tried from the command line:

r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0 satan -u k
satan: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

Installing 'libltdl3' from the repositories solved this -> add
libltdl3 as depending package in the .ipk

4) Started the app. It's a mess.. sorry.. I'd like to be able to do
something with an app when I start it with no prior knowledge of it. I
know Blender might not allow me to do this but I'd like your app to do
it. From the previous experiences I know that you have to load some
sounds/sound fonts/something. Went to Ld/Sv -tab (read the manual the
first time I used it) but - I have no idea where to try to find the
sound fonts required. Maybe it should default to the dir where they're
installed?

This is when I closed it. No sound this time. Maybe some introduction
window or something that the user can disable after reading it?



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Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN

[Damian Spriggs]

I've installed it just fine a few times, but could never get it to run  
(SHR Testing and Unstable)

On Mar 20, 2009, at 4:33 PM, Anton Persson wrote:

> Hi folkz!
>
> I just wanted to request user feedback for my app SATAN, if there  
> are _any_ users out there.. I know
> some people have at least tried, and hopefully all have succeeded,  
> to install and start the application..
>
> But I want to know; have anyone succeeded making some noise with it?  
> What are your thoughts?
> Do you want any specific improvements or changes?
>
>Best regards,
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Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Anton Persson escribió:
> Hi folkz!
>
> I just wanted to request user feedback for my app SATAN, if there are 
> _any_ users out there.. I know
> some people have at least tried, and hopefully all have succeeded, to 
> install and start the application..
>
> But I want to know; have anyone succeeded making some noise with it? 
> What are your thoughts?
> Do you want any specific improvements or changes?
>
> Best regards,
>   Anton Persson
> 
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Well I am not a user (yet), however, I certainly love the name.

Tom

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Request for Feedback - SATAN

[Anton Persson]

Hi folkz!

I just wanted to request user feedback for my app SATAN, if there are _any_
users out there.. I know
some people have at least tried, and hopefully all have succeeded, to
install and start the application..

But I want to know; have anyone succeeded making some noise with it? What
are your thoughts?
Do you want any specific improvements or changes?

Best regards,
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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

[xChris]

I am using this [1]. Do you have to suggest a better kernel?

Regards

Chris



[1]
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FilipBE wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> what kernel are you using ?
> 
> On 2.6.28/29 (not sure about older ones) there is the usb bug (OM ticket  
> 2254) that does not detect when usb disconnects. So once connected trough  
> usb, the interface stays 'up', even if no longer connected, and the fr  
> keeps trying to route packets trough it. This is causing other media  
> (wifi, GPRS) not to work. A simple workaround is to issue an 'ifdown usb0'  
> in a terminal.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Filip.
> 
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:33:02 +0100, xChris  wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Is wifi working? no way for me!
>>
>> As I see there is a patch on the [1] , using this patch, there is no way  
>> to
>> connect to wlan.
>> Without that patch, I can connected but I cannot "see" any site etc.  
>> (cant
>> get DNS?)
>>
>> Can you please share how did you managed to connect on wlan?
>>
>> Thanx in advance
>>
>> chris
>>
>> PS I am using the 16032009 binary.
>>
>> [1]http://trac.karadog.net
>>
>>
>> HouYu Li wrote:
>>>
>>> I have tried wifi. Everything seems OK. I can visit Google and Facebook  
>>> as
>>> expected. Did not check whether resolv.conf is updated properly. But I  
>>> am
>>> not able to delete the created Wireless Lan profile. Haven't tried the
>>> GPRS
>>> connection.
>>> Yes. I am using fso rootfs.
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
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Auditing Daemon

[Shaz]

Hi,

I wanted to know which auditing daemon (like auditd on desktops) is used
with OM based distributions? I hope it is common for all distros.

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

[Filip Onkelinx]

Hi Chris,

what kernel are you using ?

On 2.6.28/29 (not sure about older ones) there is the usb bug (OM ticket  
2254) that does not detect when usb disconnects. So once connected trough  
usb, the interface stays 'up', even if no longer connected, and the fr  
keeps trying to route packets trough it. This is causing other media  
(wifi, GPRS) not to work. A simple workaround is to issue an 'ifdown usb0'  
in a terminal.

Cheers,

Filip.

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:33:02 +0100, xChris  wrote:

>
>
> Is wifi working? no way for me!
>
> As I see there is a patch on the [1] , using this patch, there is no way  
> to
> connect to wlan.
> Without that patch, I can connected but I cannot "see" any site etc.  
> (cant
> get DNS?)
>
> Can you please share how did you managed to connect on wlan?
>
> Thanx in advance
>
> chris
>
> PS I am using the 16032009 binary.
>
> [1]http://trac.karadog.net
>
>
> HouYu Li wrote:
>>
>> I have tried wifi. Everything seems OK. I can visit Google and Facebook  
>> as
>> expected. Did not check whether resolv.conf is updated properly. But I  
>> am
>> not able to delete the created Wireless Lan profile. Haven't tried the
>> GPRS
>> connection.
>> Yes. I am using fso rootfs.
>> ...
>>
>>
>

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Re: Openmoko toolchain error

[Shaz]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:02 PM, rakshat hooja  wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and I followed the instructions at -
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain
> Everything works fine up till the 'Building the sample application
> segment'. I tried to run as root as well but I was unable to build it. The
> log is attached for both attempts.
>

Path to the toolchain is giving problems. Are you sure that openmoko
toolchain is present and all the required headers and libraries are where
they should be. Did the opkg-target update work? If it did work then its
something else.

I use the toolchains alot on Ubunut 8.10 and 8.04 and I never had such a
problem although never tried the sample application :)


>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Rakshat
>
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Re: Linphone not available?

[Al Johnson]

On Friday 20 March 2009, yacine wrote:
> Al Johnson wrote:
> > http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/
> >
> > I think I got all the deps that aren't in the main repos, but may have
> > missed
> > some. Looks like faulty memory about the 2.x version - these 1.6 but
> > includes
> > the patch to allow external control by yeaphone etc. There is no gui
> > IIRC, so
> > you'll be using linphonec.
> >
> > The binaries can be built by following the standard SHR build
> > instructions,
> > then:
> > cd shr-testing
> > . setup-env
> > bitbake linphone
> >
> > As for the new version, I want to try it first. The daemon mode was
> > mentioned
> > in the release email, but I haven't seen exactly what it does. If it
> > looks nice I'll try to make a bitbake recipe, but it'll be my first for
> > an app.
>
> Thank you for taking time to do this. From what you have said I guess I
> have to put SHR.
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR

It'll probably work with other OE-based distros like FSO and 2008.x too, so 
give it a try first unless you want to try SHR anyway.

btw 3.1.0 now builds, but I've not tested it yet.

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

[xChris]

Is wifi working? no way for me!

As I see there is a patch on the [1] , using this patch, there is no way to
connect to wlan.
Without that patch, I can connected but I cannot "see" any site etc. (cant
get DNS?)

Can you please share how did you managed to connect on wlan?

Thanx in advance

chris

PS I am using the 16032009 binary.

[1]http://trac.karadog.net


HouYu Li wrote:
> 
> I have tried wifi. Everything seems OK. I can visit Google and Facebook as
> expected. Did not check whether resolv.conf is updated properly. But I am
> not able to delete the created Wireless Lan profile. Haven't tried the
> GPRS
> connection.
> Yes. I am using fso rootfs.
> ...
> 
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Re: Linphone not available?

[yacine]

Al Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Friday 20 March 2009, yacine wrote:
>> Al Johnson wrote:
>> > On Thursday 19 March 2009, yacine wrote:
>> >> bytestore wrote:
>> >> > open in browser http://rabenfrost.net/celtune/ipk/armv4t
>> >> >
>> >> > This Account Has Been Suspended
>> >> > Please contact the support department as soon as possible, and
>> please
>> >> > have your site name ready.
>> >>
>> >> Any other place to download the ipk for linphone?
>> >
>> > I have some somewhere, but I won't be able to track them down and
>> upload
>> > them
>> > before tomorrow. I think I should have 1.6 for 2007.2 and 2.2 for FSO.
>> >
>> > I want to check out the new 3.1.0 release as it has a daemon mode that
>> > may make external control easier.
>>
>> That would be great!
>> When you mentioned the new release do you mean you're going to port the
>> original client to OM?
> 
> http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/
> 
> I think I got all the deps that aren't in the main repos, but may have
> missed 
> some. Looks like faulty memory about the 2.x version - these 1.6 but
> includes 
> the patch to allow external control by yeaphone etc. There is no gui IIRC,
> so 
> you'll be using linphonec.
> 
> The binaries can be built by following the standard SHR build
> instructions, 
> then:
>   cd shr-testing
>   . setup-env
>   bitbake linphone
> 
> As for the new version, I want to try it first. The daemon mode was
> mentioned 
> in the release email, but I haven't seen exactly what it does. If it looks 
> nice I'll try to make a bitbake recipe, but it'll be my first for an app.
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Thank you for taking time to do this. From what you have said I guess I have
to put SHR. 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR






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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[Johny Tenfinger]

I builded Alpha 2 with bitbake some time ago. It has bugs with using
autotools from host machine, but i workarounded it and it worked. Now
i'm trying the same with beta 1. but alpha 2 was really slow... I'm
not expecting Beta 1 to be usable on FR.

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Re: Buzz Issues - Last Questions, I promise

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

2009/3/20 Risto H. Kurppa :
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:48 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
>  wrote:
>>> 1.  Will there ever be an official fix from
>>> Openmoko/Truebox/WhicheverSupplierYouBoughtItFrom.  By fix I don't mean just
>>> instructions on how to do-it-yourself, but a route for non-soldering users
>>> to get the fix applied.  If not, just say so,  I don't want to wait and hope
>>> if there will be no change.
>>
>> something is changing ;) look at the links attached
>>
>>
>> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-March/043971.html
>> http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=1&postId=7
>
> Changing..? Well yes, people get tired of waiting for the answer about
> this being fixed by distributors/suppliers..

In spite surelly I'm the smallest one... I'm a distributor, and both
initiavies are fully supported by OM , and Steve Mosher is directly
involved, I know some other big distributors will add to the initative
soon, and I recomend to any distributor to contact steve and start
doing parties too :)

>Anyway, I'm happy for
> everyone who are able to get it fixed, I hope I'll be able to do the
> same in the following weeks..
I hope it too :)
>
>
> r
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Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended

[Mike Montour]

Ed Kapitein wrote:

> I am also looking for a way to make data calls, do you know of any other
> method of making a data call with the FR?
> ( direct AT commands to the modem etc)[...] 
> All pointers are welcome!

First you need to make sure that your GSM carrier supports CSD (mine 
doesn't AFAIK) and that it is activated on your account.

In the past people have mentioned that the Calypso performs similarly to 
an "Enfora Enabler" modem and there is some web-accessible documentation 
for that. The "AT+CBST" (select bearer service type) command seems to be 
involved.

There's probably some overlap between the CSD commands and the ones used 
for GPRS so I would also look at 
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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[Brad Lassey]

Al,

Personally, I have never used bitbake, so I'm not sure what that is 
doing exactly.

As for the autoconf question, mozilla requires autoconf2.13.  You can 
specify the path to your autoconf2.13 either by exporting 
AUTOCONF= in your environment or by specifying AUTOCONF= in 
your mozconfig.

See https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Linux_Build_Prerequisites for more 
details.

Also, if you're interested, see the FAQ for why autoconf 2.5.x doesn't 
work.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla_Build_FAQ

-Brad

On 3/20/2009 12:05 PM, Al Johnson wrote:
> On Friday 20 March 2009, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>
>> You're oversimplifying a bit.
>>
>> You're forgetting https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/cs2007q3
>>  
> I just tried:
>
> bitbake fennec
>
> This does a checkout from hg but it fails during configure. It looks like it's
> trying to use autoconf2.13 for some reason. This version isn't on my build
> machine, or in OE, so perhaps it's hardcoded to use it? I haven't dug any
> deeper.
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Re: [SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question

[Yorick Moko]

i also didn't get fixes with shr-testing
it used to work fine
it also still works with openmok-agpsui, but not with tangogps

also waited long, and removed that pickle

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Vinzenz Hersche  wrote:
> On Freitag 20 März 2009 16:26:53 KaZeR wrote:
>> I've flashed to shr-testing a few days ago, and *never* managed to get a
>> fix since.
>>
>> I've noticed the following line in the log, when starting tangoGPS for
>> example :
>>
>> Mar 20 16:22:53 om-gta02 user.debug kernel: [63639.39] rxerr: port
>> ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c
>>
>> Happens when opening and closing the app, so i guess it's when the GPS is
>> started/stopped.
>> Nothing else in my log.
>>
>> Has someone ever faced this issue?
>
> i havn't also any fix with the TESTING-shr.. with UNSTABLE-shr (13. march) it
> work's good..
>
> i had the same expirience with the phone of a friend (i'm his supporter :p )
>
> i didn't check the log for failures.. so don't know if it's the same.. which
> log does you check?
>
> greets
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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[Al Johnson]

On Friday 20 March 2009, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> You're oversimplifying a bit.
>
> You're forgetting https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/cs2007q3

I just tried:

bitbake fennec

This does a checkout from hg but it fails during configure. It looks like it's 
trying to use autoconf2.13 for some reason. This version isn't on my build 
machine, or in OE, so perhaps it's hardcoded to use it? I haven't dug any 
deeper.

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Re: Buzz Issues - Last Questions, I promise

[Risto H. Kurppa]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:48 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
 wrote:
>> 1.  Will there ever be an official fix from
>> Openmoko/Truebox/WhicheverSupplierYouBoughtItFrom.  By fix I don't mean just
>> instructions on how to do-it-yourself, but a route for non-soldering users
>> to get the fix applied.  If not, just say so,  I don't want to wait and hope
>> if there will be no change.
>
> something is changing ;) look at the links attached
>
>
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-March/043971.html
> http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-view_blog_post.php?blogId=1&postId=7

Changing..? Well yes, people get tired of waiting for the answer about
this being fixed by distributors/suppliers.. Anyway, I'm happy for
everyone who are able to get it fixed, I hope I'll be able to do the
same in the following weeks..


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Re: [SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question

[Vinzenz Hersche]

On Freitag 20 März 2009 16:26:53 KaZeR wrote:
> I've flashed to shr-testing a few days ago, and *never* managed to get a
> fix since.
>
> I've noticed the following line in the log, when starting tangoGPS for
> example :
>
> Mar 20 16:22:53 om-gta02 user.debug kernel: [63639.39] rxerr: port
> ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c
>
> Happens when opening and closing the app, so i guess it's when the GPS is
> started/stopped.
> Nothing else in my log.
>
> Has someone ever faced this issue?

i havn't also any fix with the TESTING-shr.. with UNSTABLE-shr (13. march) it 
work's good.. 

i had the same expirience with the phone of a friend (i'm his supporter :p )

i didn't check the log for failures.. so don't know if it's the same.. which 
log does you check?

greets


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Re: Buzz Issues - Last Questions, I promise

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

> 1.  Will there ever be an official fix from
> Openmoko/Truebox/WhicheverSupplierYouBoughtItFrom.  By fix I don't mean just
> instructions on how to do-it-yourself, but a route for non-soldering users
> to get the fix applied.  If not, just say so,  I don't want to wait and hope
> if there will be no change.

something is changing ;) look at the links attached


http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-March/043971.html

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Re: Linphone not available?

[Al Johnson]

On Friday 20 March 2009, yacine wrote:
> Al Johnson wrote:
> > On Thursday 19 March 2009, yacine wrote:
> >> bytestore wrote:
> >> > open in browser http://rabenfrost.net/celtune/ipk/armv4t
> >> >
> >> > This Account Has Been Suspended
> >> > Please contact the support department as soon as possible, and please
> >> > have your site name ready.
> >>
> >> Any other place to download the ipk for linphone?
> >
> > I have some somewhere, but I won't be able to track them down and upload
> > them
> > before tomorrow. I think I should have 1.6 for 2007.2 and 2.2 for FSO.
> >
> > I want to check out the new 3.1.0 release as it has a daemon mode that
> > may make external control easier.
>
> That would be great!
> When you mentioned the new release do you mean you're going to port the
> original client to OM?

http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/repos/mazikeen/shr-testing/ipk/armv4t/

I think I got all the deps that aren't in the main repos, but may have missed 
some. Looks like faulty memory about the 2.x version - these 1.6 but includes 
the patch to allow external control by yeaphone etc. There is no gui IIRC, so 
you'll be using linphonec.

The binaries can be built by following the standard SHR build instructions, 
then:
cd shr-testing
. setup-env
bitbake linphone

As for the new version, I want to try it first. The daemon mode was mentioned 
in the release email, but I haven't seen exactly what it does. If it looks 
nice I'll try to make a bitbake recipe, but it'll be my first for an app.

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Re: [SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question

[KaZeR]

I've flashed to shr-testing a few days ago, and *never* managed to get a fix
since.

I've noticed the following line in the log, when starting tangoGPS for
example :

Mar 20 16:22:53 om-gta02 user.debug kernel: [63639.39] rxerr: port
ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c

Happens when opening and closing the app, so i guess it's when the GPS is
started/stopped.
Nothing else in my log.

Has someone ever faced this issue?

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Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended

[Ed Kapitein]

Tuan TRINH wrote:
> Hi all,
> Is there any guru success in making a data call (over CSD) with
> QtExtended 4.4 ? I follow the sample code in qt-extended doc but no
> success yet.
>  
> Thanks,
> TAT
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I am also looking for a way to make data calls, do you know of any other
method of making a data call with the FR?
( direct AT commands to the modem etc)
Someone in the irc channel pointed that it was impossible, because the
FR lacks a modem

All pointers are welcome!

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Bluetooth headsets to the resque (was: Re: Buzz Issues - Last Questions, I promise)

[Paul Fertser]

ezuall  writes:
> Speaking as a fanboy of the Freerunner and everything Openmoko does

LOL, is it meant to be ironic?

> So two questions:

Sorry, i can't answer to any of these questions, but i want to notify
you and other community members that support for bluetooth headsets in
FSO is coming and it will have neither buzz nor echo issues.

But please, do developers a favour: if you're not ready to use
versions from git, use not exactly documented bluez4 interfaces, etc,
wait for the official instructions. Otherwise, join IRC and have fun
exploring new bluez lands.

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Openmoko toolchain error

[rakshat hooja]

Hi,
I am using Ubuntu 8.10 and I followed the instructions at -
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain
Everything works fine up till the 'Building the sample application segment'.
I tried to run as root as well but I was unable to build it. The log is
attached for both attempts.

Thanks in advance

Rakshat
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/username/openmoko-sample2'
Making all in src
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/username/openmoko-sample2/src'
/bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC   --mode=link ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -std=gnu99 -Wall -pedantic -std=c99 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/libmokoui2 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include   -isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os  -L/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib -Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib -Wl,-O1 -o openmoko-sample sample-main.o -lmokoui2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgmodule-2.0 -lgconf-2 -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0   
../libtool: line 807: X--tag=CC: command not found
../libtool: line 840: libtool: ignoring unknown tag : command not found
../libtool: line 807: X--mode=link: command not found
../libtool: line 957: *** Warning: inferring the mode of operation is deprecated.: command not found
../libtool: line 958: *** Future versions of Libtool will require -mode=MODE be specified.: command not found
../libtool: line 2245: Xarm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: command not found
../libtool: line 1944: X-march=armv4t: command not found
../libtool: line 1944: X-mtune=arm920t: command not found
../libtool: line 2111: X-std=gnu99: command not found
../libtool: line 2111: X-Wall: command not found
../libtool: line 2111: X-pedantic: command not found
../libtool: line 2111: X-std=c99: command not found
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/libmokoui2: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/gtk-2.0: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/atk-1.0: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/cairo: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/pango-1.0: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/glib-2.0: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/freetype2: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/libpng12: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/pixman-1: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/gconf/2: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include/dbus-1.0: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-isystem/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include: No such file or directory
../libtool: line 2111: X-fexpensive-optimizations: command not found
../libtool: line 2111: X-fomit-frame-pointer: command not found
../libtool: line 2111: X-frename-registers: command n

Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[Brad Lassey]

Yes, I suppose that would be a bit of a misprint, which I have corrected 
to read "If you want to cross-compile Fennec and XULRunner for Maemo, 
you should first set up scratchbox 
."  The mozilla build 
process handles gcc style cross compiles out of the box.


-Brad

On 3/20/2009 10:04 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

Really?

Because it says "If you want to cross-compile Fennec and XULRunner for
ARM devices, you should first set up scratchbox."

r...@om-gta02:~# grep Processor /proc/cpuinfo
Processor   : ARM920T rev 0 (v4l)

Rui

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 09:29:11AM -0400, Brad Lassey wrote:
   

Rui,

Those instructions are for setting up a Maemo development environment,
which wouldn't be applicable to someone trying to build for Openmoko.

-Brad


On 3/20/2009 4:50 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 

You're oversimplifying a bit.

You're forgetting https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/cs2007q3

Rui

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:05:45AM -0700, blassey wrote:

   

Out of curiosity, what part of the build process is giving you trouble?  It
boils down to this:

-Pull the code
 hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central
 cd mozilla-central
 hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser mobile

-Create configuration file (an example is provided, just copy and paste)

-Build
 make -f client.mk build


Daniel Benoy wrote:

 

Looks like the hell on drugs according to their wiki.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec

   


   


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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes]

Now I know nothing about anything, and I've only just read this part of
the thread - but could it not be that the cross compiler and tools setup
by MokoMakefile are used instead when building for the NEO?

- Gunnar

Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> Really?
> 
> Because it says "If you want to cross-compile Fennec and XULRunner for
> ARM devices, you should first set up scratchbox."
> 
> r...@om-gta02:~# grep Processor /proc/cpuinfo 
> Processor : ARM920T rev 0 (v4l)
> 
> Rui
> 
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 09:29:11AM -0400, Brad Lassey wrote:
>> Rui,
>>
>> Those instructions are for setting up a Maemo development environment, 
>> which wouldn't be applicable to someone trying to build for Openmoko.
>>
>> -Brad
>>
>>
>> On 3/20/2009 4:50 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>>> You're oversimplifying a bit.
>>>
>>> You're forgetting https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/cs2007q3
>>>
>>> Rui
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:05:45AM -0700, blassey wrote:
>>>
 Out of curiosity, what part of the build process is giving you trouble?  It
 boils down to this:

 -Pull the code
 hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central
 cd mozilla-central
 hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser mobile

 -Create configuration file (an example is provided, just copy and paste)

 -Build
 make -f client.mk build


 Daniel Benoy wrote:
  
> Looks like the hell on drugs according to their wiki.
>
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec
>
>>>
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Buzz Issues - Last Questions, I promise

[ezuall]

All,

First thing I want to apologise for crossposting, I tried popsting this in
the hardware section, then realised I was not a subscriber to that mailing
list.  Maybe that post will not go through, in which case it won't matter. 
Here we go.

Speaking as a fanboy of the Freerunner and everything Openmoko does I can't
help but be disheartened by the fact that the noise on my Neo is still
preventing me from using it as a phone.  Lately I've hardly used it at all,
because it kind of feels like it will never be fixed and I get depressed
when I look at it.  Seeing as I have been offline for a bit regarding the
freerunner I may have missed any new information about the fix, so in case
I've got it all wrong please point me in the right direction.

I've had it for more than half a year now, and the progress made on so many
levels is great.  I love the freedom and all the different distros.

So two questions:
1.  Will there ever be an official fix from
Openmoko/Truebox/WhicheverSupplierYouBoughtItFrom.  By fix I don't mean just
instructions on how to do-it-yourself, but a route for non-soldering users
to get the fix applied.  If not, just say so,  I don't want to wait and hope
if there will be no change.
2.  Has anyone in London applied this fix succesfully?  I'd be willing to
pay to get this sorted.

I feel like one of those moaning idiots on the mailing lists that I usually
hate, but I just need this clarified.

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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Really?

Because it says "If you want to cross-compile Fennec and XULRunner for
ARM devices, you should first set up scratchbox."

r...@om-gta02:~# grep Processor /proc/cpuinfo 
Processor   : ARM920T rev 0 (v4l)

Rui

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 09:29:11AM -0400, Brad Lassey wrote:
> Rui,
> 
> Those instructions are for setting up a Maemo development environment, 
> which wouldn't be applicable to someone trying to build for Openmoko.
> 
> -Brad
> 
> 
> On 3/20/2009 4:50 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > You're oversimplifying a bit.
> >
> > You're forgetting https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/cs2007q3
> >
> > Rui
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:05:45AM -0700, blassey wrote:
> >
> >> Out of curiosity, what part of the build process is giving you trouble?  It
> >> boils down to this:
> >>
> >> -Pull the code
> >> hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central
> >> cd mozilla-central
> >> hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser mobile
> >>
> >> -Create configuration file (an example is provided, just copy and paste)
> >>
> >> -Build
> >> make -f client.mk build
> >>
> >>
> >> Daniel Benoy wrote:
> >>  
> >>> Looks like the hell on drugs according to their wiki.
> >>>
> >>> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec
> >>>
> >
> 
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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[David Reyes Samblas Martinez]

To incentive a little more the awesome work you are doing porting
Fennec, there is a cofundos.org bounty for this
once a opkg package is reached
http://openmoko.cofundos.org/project.php?id=156

2009/3/20 Brad Lassey :
> Rui,
>
> Those instructions are for setting up a Maemo development environment,
> which wouldn't be applicable to someone trying to build for Openmoko.
>
> -Brad
>
>
> On 3/20/2009 4:50 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
>> You're oversimplifying a bit.
>>
>> You're forgetting https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/cs2007q3
>>
>> Rui
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:05:45AM -0700, blassey wrote:
>>
>>> Out of curiosity, what part of the build process is giving you trouble?  It
>>> boils down to this:
>>>
>>> -Pull the code
>>>     hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central
>>>     cd mozilla-central
>>>     hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser mobile
>>>
>>> -Create configuration file (an example is provided, just copy and paste)
>>>
>>> -Build
>>>     make -f client.mk build
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel Benoy wrote:
>>>
 Looks like the hell on drugs according to their wiki.

 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec

>>
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[arne anka]

> No, a sane fallback would be to signal an error and exit.

that's no fallback -- that's an exit strategy.

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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[Brad Lassey]

Rui,

Those instructions are for setting up a Maemo development environment, 
which wouldn't be applicable to someone trying to build for Openmoko.

-Brad


On 3/20/2009 4:50 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> You're oversimplifying a bit.
>
> You're forgetting https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/cs2007q3
>
> Rui
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:05:45AM -0700, blassey wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, what part of the build process is giving you trouble?  It
>> boils down to this:
>>
>> -Pull the code
>> hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central
>> cd mozilla-central
>> hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser mobile
>>
>> -Create configuration file (an example is provided, just copy and paste)
>>
>> -Build
>> make -f client.mk build
>>
>>
>> Daniel Benoy wrote:
>>  
>>> Looks like the hell on drugs according to their wiki.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec
>>>
>


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Voicenote - If someone wants to keep it alive...

[kimaidou]

Hi Rask

Thanks for your comment. I will take it into account if I release a new
version. But this has a low probability to happen

I would like to tell the community I won't have time to go further on this
small project. So:
* I won't participate in the contest for the best voice recorder tool.
* I won't maintain it

So if someone, or a group of people, wants to improve it / participate to
the contest / merge the project with another, etc., this would be good :
Feel free to download the sources :
http://kimaidou.kilu.de/openmoko/voicenote/voicenote_0.4_source.tar.gz
and modifify the wiki page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote

cheers
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Stefan Monnier]

>> Cellhunter tries to read out your $HOME variable. when NOT set it goes
>> to /home/root (line 536)
> that seems to be a very strange fallback
> - where is root's home below /home/? so far i've seen it in oe only
> - why is the user "root" assumed?
> a sane fallback would be /tmp, which usually exists everwhere and is r/w  
> for everyone.

No, a sane fallback would be to signal an error and exit.


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Re: "Multitouch" on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

[Helge Hafting]

Stefan Monnier wrote:
> FWIW, there's another source of info that might be used: jitter.
> When you have two fingers pressed, not only the reported position is
> more-or-less the middle point, but it's also jittery.
> 
> So you could detect such jitter as a tell-tale of "multitouch" and then
> use the jitter itself (orientation and magnitude) as an indicator of the
> actual position of the fingers.  Whether it would be sufficiently
> reliable to be used, I don't know.

Unfortunately, the jitter has many interpretations.
* The user is moving the fingers apart
* The user is moving the fingers together
* The user holds the finger still, but pressure varies

You may be able to get a decent multitouch with one limitation - the 
first finger stay still. With that limitation, the first finger 
establish some base point (the point to rotate around, or the point that 
stand still when something is resized.)

When the second finger comes down it does all the movement, and its 
location is at any time twice as far out from the base as the midpoint 
the FR actually register. Well, perhaps a bit less than twice as far 
out, as pressure probably is higher for the stationary finger.

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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Tony Berth]

2009/3/20 Sebastian Hammerl 

>  Tony Berth schrieb:
>
> 2009/3/20 Sebastian Hammerl 
>
>> Tony Berth schrieb:
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sebastian Hammerl <
>> list-openm...@omoco.de> wrote:
>>
>>> try to start it from the commandline  with parameter "-d"
>>>
>>> cellhunter.py -d
>>>
>>> perhaps this will tell you more.
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I did re-start the phone but still 'cellhunter' doesn't create a log file.
>>
>> Here is the outcome when running from command line:
>>
>> ---
>> __init__
>> __init__ / checking for homedir
>> __init__ / found homedir = /home/root
>> __init__ / init config
>> __init__ / init wget file
>> __init__ / init dbus
>> __init__ / init gtk main window
>> main
>> offline_mode
>> offline_mode / offline=True
>> check_cellid_auto
>> check_cellid
>> check_cellid / 0181 E637 4 786
>> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
>> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 4 986
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
>> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
>> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
>> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
>> check_serverresponse
>> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
>> check_cellid_auto / auto=1
>> check_cellid
>> check_cellid / 0181 E637 7 786
>> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
>> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
>> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
>> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
>> check_serverresponse
>> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
>> check_cellid
>> check_cellid / 0181 E637 6 786
>> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
>> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 6 801
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
>> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
>> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
>> check_serverresponse
>> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
>> check_cellid
>> check_cellid / 0181 E637 5 786
>> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
>> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 2 796
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
>> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
>> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
>> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
>> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
>> check_serverresponse
>> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
>> delete_event
>> gui_destroy
>> gui_destroy / sending AT+CREG=0\r\n
>> gui_destroy / kill all old wgets
>> -
>>
>>what does
>>
>> echo $HOME
>>
>> tell you?
>>
>> is /home/root/ accessable?
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>  Thanks
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
> yes indeed. 'echo $HOME' gives me 'home/root' and I can rwd anything there!
>
> Thanks Tony
>
>
> argl, got it now. could it be that auto submit is turned off?
>
> auto check only checks the cells but does not transmit them. only when
> transmitting the data is beeing sent / stored in offline file.
>
> you have to push: offline mode - auto submit - auto check
>
> more info at the manual at http://cellhunter.omoco.de
>
> Sebastian
>


Bingo! :) Yep, that did the trick!

Thanks

Tony
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Sebastian Hammerl]

Tony Berth schrieb:
> 2009/3/20 Sebastian Hammerl  >
>
> Tony Berth schrieb:
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sebastian Hammerl
>> mailto:list-openm...@omoco.de>> wrote:
>>
>> try to start it from the commandline  with parameter "-d"
>>
>> cellhunter.py -d
>>
>> perhaps this will tell you more.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>>
>> I did re-start the phone but still 'cellhunter' doesn't create a
>> log file.
>>
>> Here is the outcome when running from command line:
>>
>> ---
>> __init__
>> __init__ / checking for homedir
>> __init__ / found homedir = /home/root
>> __init__ / init config
>> __init__ / init wget file
>> __init__ / init dbus
>> __init__ / init gtk main window
>> main
>> offline_mode
>> offline_mode / offline=True
>> check_cellid_auto
>> check_cellid
>> check_cellid / 0181 E637 4 786
>> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
>> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 4 986
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
>> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
>> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
>> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
>> check_serverresponse
>> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
>> check_cellid_auto / auto=1
>> check_cellid
>> check_cellid / 0181 E637 7 786
>> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
>> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
>> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
>> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
>> check_serverresponse
>> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
>> check_cellid
>> check_cellid / 0181 E637 6 786
>> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
>> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 6 801
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
>> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
>> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
>> check_serverresponse
>> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
>> check_cellid
>> check_cellid / 0181 E637 5 786
>> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
>> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 2 796
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
>> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
>> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
>> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
>> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
>> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
>> check_serverresponse
>> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
>> delete_event
>> gui_destroy
>> gui_destroy / sending AT+CREG=0\r\n
>> gui_destroy / kill all old wgets
>> -
>>
> what does
>
> echo $HOME
>
> tell you?
>
> is /home/root/ accessable?
>
> Sebastian
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tony
>
>
> yes indeed. 'echo $HOME' gives me 'home/root' and I can rwd anything
> there!
>
> Thanks Tony

argl, got it now. could it be that auto submit is turned off?

auto check only checks the cells but does not transmit them. only when
transmitting the data is beeing sent / stored in offline file.

you have to push: offline mode - auto submit - auto check

more info at the manual at http://cellhunter.omoco.de

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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Tony Berth]

2009/3/20 Sebastian Hammerl 

>  Tony Berth schrieb:
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sebastian Hammerl  > wrote:
>
>> try to start it from the commandline  with parameter "-d"
>>
>> cellhunter.py -d
>>
>> perhaps this will tell you more.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>
> I did re-start the phone but still 'cellhunter' doesn't create a log file.
>
> Here is the outcome when running from command line:
>
> ---
> __init__
> __init__ / checking for homedir
> __init__ / found homedir = /home/root
> __init__ / init config
> __init__ / init wget file
> __init__ / init dbus
> __init__ / init gtk main window
> main
> offline_mode
> offline_mode / offline=True
> check_cellid_auto
> check_cellid
> check_cellid / 0181 E637 4 786
> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 4 986
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
> check_serverresponse
> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
> check_cellid_auto / auto=1
> check_cellid
> check_cellid / 0181 E637 7 786
> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
> check_serverresponse
> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
> check_cellid
> check_cellid / 0181 E637 6 786
> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 6 801
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
> check_serverresponse
> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
> check_cellid
> check_cellid / 0181 E637 5 786
> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 2 796
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
> check_serverresponse
> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
> delete_event
> gui_destroy
> gui_destroy / sending AT+CREG=0\r\n
> gui_destroy / kill all old wgets
> -
>
>   what does
>
> echo $HOME
>
> tell you?
>
> is /home/root/ accessable?
>
> Sebastian
>
>  Thanks
>
> Tony
>
>
yes indeed. 'echo $HOME' gives me 'home/root' and I can rwd anything there!

Thanks Tony
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Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended

[Tuan TRINH]

Hi all,
Is there any guru success in making a data call (over CSD) with QtExtended
4.4 ? I follow the sample code in qt-extended doc but no success yet.

Thanks,
TAT
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Sebastian Hammerl]

Tony Berth schrieb:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sebastian Hammerl
> mailto:list-openm...@omoco.de>> wrote:
>
> try to start it from the commandline  with parameter "-d"
>
> cellhunter.py -d
>
> perhaps this will tell you more.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>
> I did re-start the phone but still 'cellhunter' doesn't create a log file.
>
> Here is the outcome when running from command line:
>
> ---
> __init__
> __init__ / checking for homedir
> __init__ / found homedir = /home/root
> __init__ / init config
> __init__ / init wget file
> __init__ / init dbus
> __init__ / init gtk main window
> main
> offline_mode
> offline_mode / offline=True
> check_cellid_auto
> check_cellid
> check_cellid / 0181 E637 4 786
> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 4 986
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
> check_serverresponse
> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
> check_cellid_auto / auto=1
> check_cellid
> check_cellid / 0181 E637 7 786
> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
> check_serverresponse
> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
> check_cellid
> check_cellid / 0181 E637 6 786
> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 6 801
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
> check_serverresponse
> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
> check_cellid
> check_cellid / 0181 E637 5 786
> check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
> check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
> check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 2 796
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
> check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
> check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
> check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
> check_cellid / POS:  /  /
> check_serverresponse
> check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
> delete_event
> gui_destroy
> gui_destroy / sending AT+CREG=0\r\n
> gui_destroy / kill all old wgets
> -
>
what does

echo $HOME

tell you?

is /home/root/ accessable?

Sebastian
> Thanks
>
> Tony
>
> 
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Sebastian Hammerl]

arne anka schrieb:
>> On every openmoko distro like fso or shr the user is root with home
>> /home/root/
>> 
>
> those are iirc all oe based -- debian is an om distro too, and it does not  
> use /home/root/ but /root/. gentoo does so to iirc.
>
>   
>> /tmp is a bad idea because its only tmpfs and deleted
>> everytime it boots up.
>> 
>
> and that's worse than silent failing?
>
>   
no, shurely not
>> but an other dir would be better, yes
>> 
>
> sure, but which directory is available everwhere and can be presumed to be  
> r/w to the every user?
>
>   
that was my problem when hacking together that code :)
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Tony Berth]

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Sebastian Hammerl
wrote:

> try to start it from the commandline  with parameter "-d"
>
> cellhunter.py -d
>
> perhaps this will tell you more.
>
> Sebastian
>
>

I did re-start the phone but still 'cellhunter' doesn't create a log file.

Here is the outcome when running from command line:

---
__init__
__init__ / checking for homedir
__init__ / found homedir = /home/root
__init__ / init config
__init__ / init wget file
__init__ / init dbus
__init__ / init gtk main window
main
offline_mode
offline_mode / offline=True
check_cellid_auto
check_cellid
check_cellid / 0181 E637 4 786
check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 4 986
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
check_cellid / POS:  /  /
check_serverresponse
check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
check_cellid_auto / auto=1
check_cellid
check_cellid / 0181 E637 7 786
check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
check_cellid / POS:  /  /
check_serverresponse
check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
check_cellid
check_cellid / 0181 E637 6 786
check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 796
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 6 801
check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D45 3 860
check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 3 830
check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
check_cellid / POS:  /  /
check_serverresponse
check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
check_cellid
check_cellid / 0181 E637 5 786
check_cellid / +COPS: 0,2,"26203"
check_cellid / Provider: 262 3
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DD9 4 990
check_cellid / neighbours: 0181 3D4F 2 796
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD 5DE3 5 986
check_cellid / neighbours: 02FD B563 5 801
check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
check_cellid / neighbours:   2 0
check_cellid / FIX/TIME: No Fix / 0 /
check_cellid / POS:  /  /
check_serverresponse
check_cellid / scheduling next check in 1 ms
delete_event
gui_destroy
gui_destroy / sending AT+CREG=0\r\n
gui_destroy / kill all old wgets
-

Thanks

Tony
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[arne anka]

> On every openmoko distro like fso or shr the user is root with home
> /home/root/

those are iirc all oe based -- debian is an om distro too, and it does not  
use /home/root/ but /root/. gentoo does so to iirc.

> /tmp is a bad idea because its only tmpfs and deleted
> everytime it boots up.

and that's worse than silent failing?

> but an other dir would be better, yes

sure, but which directory is available everwhere and can be presumed to be  
r/w to the every user?

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The draft of 14th community updates

[William Lai]

Dear List :

Sorry for the delay, as Brenda is not around, I am subsituting for 
tomorrow's community news release.  A draft can be found here:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Community_Updates/March_20%2C_2009

Please feel free to add/edit events to the page.  We do need help on 
updating the distributions section, if anyone can come around to doing 
that, it would be appreciated.

The 14th community updates will be released tomorrow, March 20th.


Thanks and Best Regards,


Will


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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Sebastian Hammerl]

arne anka schrieb:
>> Cellhunter tries to read out your $HOME variable. when NOT set it goes
>> to /home/root (line 536)
>> 
>
> that seems to be a very strange fallback
> - where is root's home below /home/? so far i've seen it in oe only
> - why is the user "root" assumed?
>
>   
On every openmoko distro like fso or shr the user is root with home
/home/root/

normally $home should be set. I think other programs will have problems
too without this. /tmp is a bad idea because its only tmpfs and deleted
everytime it boots up. but an other dir would be better, yes

Sebastian
> a sane fallback would be /tmp, which usually exists everwhere and is r/w  
> for everyone.
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[arne anka]

> Cellhunter tries to read out your $HOME variable. when NOT set it goes
> to /home/root (line 536)

that seems to be a very strange fallback
- where is root's home below /home/? so far i've seen it in oe only
- why is the user "root" assumed?

a sane fallback would be /tmp, which usually exists everwhere and is r/w  
for everyone.

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Re: Finger Friendly chess program

[Leonti Bielski]

I use it on SHR-Unstable - but I had to install fonts from OM repo and
to chande Xserver file.

Leonti

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Leonardo de Virgilio
 wrote:
>
>
> 2009/3/19 Ed Kapitein 
>>
>> Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
>> > Ed Kapitein ha scritto:
>> > > Hi Leonti,
>> >
>> > > Try installing font-adobe-75dpi
>> > >
>> >
>> > 
>> > > (opkg install font-adobe-75dpi
>> > >
>> >
>> > 
>> > > )
>> > > it works for me on om2008.12
>> >
>> > > Kind regards,
>> > > Ed
>> >
>> > Has anyone tried this on SHR-testing? I get something like this:
>> > http://pastebin.com/m606efc0f
>> >
>> Perhaps you need to install those too?
>>
>> opkg list_installed | egrep
>> "font-adobe-75dpi|encodings|font-util|font-alias"
>
> I have noone of them installed on SHR-testing, but they're not on SHR repos.
>
>>
>> encodings - 1:1.0.2-r0 -
>> font-adobe-75dpi - 1:1.0.0-r0 -
>> font-alias - 1:1.0.1-r0 -
>> font-util - 1:1.0.1-r1 -
>
> I've tried to get them installed from OM repos, but it generates lots of
> errors and, most important,
> a dependency _hell_. So, anyone, has managed to get this workig simply on
> SHR-testing?
>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Ed
>
> Regards,
>
> Francesco
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Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

[Sebastian Hammerl]

Alex (Maxious) Sadleir schrieb:
> Something I realised on Debian/fyp was that in /usr/bin/cellhunter.py
> home is set to "/home/root" but on fyp root's home is just "/root".
> Cellhunter 0.4.2 *did not* present an error message when it tried to
> write the offline log to a non-existant path, it just silently failed.
> So this should definately be fixed!
>
>   
Cellhunter tries to read out your $HOME variable. when NOT set it goes
to /home/root (line 536)

so please check if your enviroment is set up correctly.

Sebastian
> I lost a whole morning's worth of cells - better luck next time ;)
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Tony Berth  wrote:
>   
>> I have SHR latest unstable and the latest cellhunter version.
>>
>> In the very first beginning, when I switched to offline mode a log was
>> indeed created. After going online and run 'cellhunter_upload.sh' to upload
>> it to the cellhunter server, no log was re-generated? Why?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tony
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Re: Finger Friendly chess program

[Leonardo de Virgilio]

2009/3/19 Ed Kapitein 

> Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
> > Ed Kapitein ha scritto:
> > > Hi Leonti,
> >
> > > Try installing font-adobe-75dpi
> > >
> > <
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/font-adobe-75dpi_1.0.0-r0_all.opk
> >
> > > (opkg install font-adobe-75dpi
> > >
> > <
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/font-adobe-75dpi_1.0.0-r0_all.opk
> >
> > > )
> > > it works for me on om2008.12
> >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Ed
> >
> > Has anyone tried this on SHR-testing? I get something like this:
> > http://pastebin.com/m606efc0f
> >
> Perhaps you need to install those too?
>
> opkg list_installed | egrep
> "font-adobe-75dpi|encodings|font-util|font-alias"


I have noone of them installed on SHR-testing, but they're not on SHR repos.


>
> encodings - 1:1.0.2-r0 -
> font-adobe-75dpi - 1:1.0.0-r0 -
> font-alias - 1:1.0.1-r0 -
> font-util - 1:1.0.1-r1 -


I've tried to get them installed from OM repos, but it generates lots of
errors and, most important,
a dependency _hell_. So, anyone, has managed to get this workig simply on
SHR-testing?


>
> Kind regards,
> Ed
>

Regards,

Francesco
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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

You're oversimplifying a bit.

You're forgetting https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/cs2007q3

Rui

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:05:45AM -0700, blassey wrote:
> 
> Out of curiosity, what part of the build process is giving you trouble?  It
> boils down to this:
> 
> -Pull the code
>hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central
>cd mozilla-central
>hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser mobile
> 
> -Create configuration file (an example is provided, just copy and paste)
> 
> -Build
>make -f client.mk build
> 
> 
> Daniel Benoy wrote:
> > 
> > Looks like the hell on drugs according to their wiki.
> > 
> > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec

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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

[blassey]

Out of curiosity, what part of the build process is giving you trouble?  It
boils down to this:

-Pull the code
   hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central
   cd mozilla-central
   hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser mobile

-Create configuration file (an example is provided, just copy and paste)

-Build
   make -f client.mk build




Daniel Benoy wrote:
> 
> Looks like the hell on drugs according to their wiki.
> 
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/Fennec
> 
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