Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd
Someone always writes that. I was having connection problems with my iPad. It turned out to be a problem with my old access point. A guy at Engadget wrote that this was the first time an iPhone had worked at his apartment and it worked great there. Connection problems are hard to figure out. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: > I read an article that said this one seems to have more problems than usual. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd
I've never owned a phone you couldn't hold as a *phone* and have it not work. This seems like a strange problem to have slipped by Apple, hopefully it is just a software glitch and can be fixed by an update. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:08 AM, TJPA wrote: > You are mixing up two stories. How you grab any phone does matter and even > walking around with the phone does matter. But the story of the number of > bars changing when the iPhone is touched a certain way is suspected to be a > different issue. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Stewart Marshall < > revsamarsh...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > NO with these reports are the fact that calls get dropped when the person > does this. > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd
Sorry there are so many stories out about it right now hard to keep them straight. Thought they would have done more real world testing on it before releasing it. I read an article that said this one seems to have more problems than usual. Stewart At 11:08 AM 6/25/2010, you wrote: You are mixing up two stories. How you grab any phone does matter and even walking around with the phone does matter. But the story of the number of bars changing when the iPhone is touched a certain way is suspected to be a different issue. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: > NO with these reports are the fact that calls get dropped when the person does this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd
You are mixing up two stories. How you grab any phone does matter and even walking around with the phone does matter. But the story of the number of bars changing when the iPhone is touched a certain way is suspected to be a different issue. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: > NO with these reports are the fact that calls get dropped when the person > does this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd
I've heard both, that is is dropping calls, but the fix is software not hardware. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Stewart Marshall < revsamarsh...@earthlink.net> wrote: > NO with these reports are the fact that calls get dropped when the person > does this. > > Apple has confirmed that the antenna is in this area, and people should, > hold their phones differently. > > Stewart > > > > At 10:48 AM 6/25/2010, you wrote: > >> There is speculation that part of the problem may be with the software >> that displays the bars. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:01 AM, mike wrote: >> > We did verify the same >> > problem that is being reported everywhere, holding the phone as any >> normal >> > right handed person would hold it, in about 20 seconds all bars >> disappear >> > from the meter at the top of the phone, we didn't check to see how it >> > actually affected use, spose that will come out later. >> >> >> * >> ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** >> ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** >> * >> > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd
NO with these reports are the fact that calls get dropped when the person does this. Apple has confirmed that the antenna is in this area, and people should, hold their phones differently. Stewart At 10:48 AM 6/25/2010, you wrote: There is speculation that part of the problem may be with the software that displays the bars. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:01 AM, mike wrote: > We did verify the same > problem that is being reported everywhere, holding the phone as any normal > right handed person would hold it, in about 20 seconds all bars disappear > from the meter at the top of the phone, we didn't check to see how it > actually affected use, spose that will come out later. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd
There is speculation that part of the problem may be with the software that displays the bars. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:01 AM, mike wrote: > We did verify the same > problem that is being reported everywhere, holding the phone as any normal > right handed person would hold it, in about 20 seconds all bars disappear > from the meter at the top of the phone, we didn't check to see how it > actually affected use, spose that will come out later. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd
I went with a friend to pick up his new iphone last night at a local Apple store. We went in the evening and all the walk in phones had been sold so the store wasn't too busy. We waited only about ten minutes before a smiling Apple employee, holding the iphone above her head gathered us up from the front of the store to an area near the back to make the sale. Took about ten more minutes to verify his info, process the payment and then maybe 30 seconds for him to plug it into a macbook and get it activated by AT&T. By the time we walked passed the entrance on the way out, his phone was ready to go. He reluctantly handed me the phone...it is a thing of beauty no doubt. It's solid, retro and future looking in one very slim package. The old iphone, which IMO has looked dated for over a year looks even more dated, almost ugly compared to this new sparkling iphone. He got the black one...no stormtrooper version available. Turning it on, the screen is striking, the water droplet backdrop is a perfect starting point to see the new detail of the screen. The phone was responsive...as it should be with the same CPU as the iPad and twice the ram, and a lot of fun to use. The camera took good pictures..at least at the restaurant we were at, they looked as good as any point and shoot. We did verify the same problem that is being reported everywhere, holding the phone as any normal right handed person would hold it, in about 20 seconds all bars disappear from the meter at the top of the phone, we didn't check to see how it actually affected use, spose that will come out later. Apple's response has been 'don't hold it like that.' Um...yeah. I also spent about 15 more minutes with an iPad, which puts me only about an hour of use with one of these...I still don't see it as more than a toy, and honestly in full view of the new iPhone, the iPad looks dated. PS I installed iOS 4 on my 2nd gen iPod touch, I'd not recommend it. The app store among a couple of others has quit and returned me to the main screen several times, the ipod while overall faster, is also jerkier in response. I've also run into having over 40 msgs in my email box via google on the ipod that contain no data, but yet exist and cannot be deleted. These msgs do not show up on the web gmail interface nor my android phone. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X
Again, you view security updates from Apple as 'features'. Nice for you. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:20 AM, TJPA wrote: > Is is all a matter of volume. M$ is pounding my computer with a constant > barrage of security updates. It is frequent and the number of updates I may > get in a day is often larger than I wish to count. These are security > updates, not giving me any new features. In contrast Apple will go for > months without needing a security related update. Most of the updates I get > from Apple are actually delivering new features. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 25, 2010, at 12:30 AM, mike wrote: > > Security updates via MS = idiot programmers > > Security updates via Apple = angelic programmers improving experience > > > * > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > * > * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X
Yes, and I think they will. I just do not see them abandoning OSX for iOS. In comparison iOS is a much smaller and easier to support product. Apple would have no need to abandon OSX and strategically it would lose them a lot of credibility. They need to have a real OS on some of their hardware. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 7:08 AM, "phartz...@gmail.com" wrote: > But, couldn't it be much easier for Apple to make some major inroads > into the business computing world were they to put most of their > efforts into suggesting a different type of computing platform for the > workplace as opposed to what is in general use today? I speak here of > the iPad and future versions of same. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X
Is is all a matter of volume. M$ is pounding my computer with a constant barrage of security updates. It is frequent and the number of updates I may get in a day is often larger than I wish to count. These are security updates, not giving me any new features. In contrast Apple will go for months without needing a security related update. Most of the updates I get from Apple are actually delivering new features. Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2010, at 12:30 AM, mike wrote: > Security updates via MS = idiot programmers > Security updates via Apple = angelic programmers improving experience * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple iOS or OS X
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:15 AM, TJPA wrote: > I do not agree. There are of course those Apple-hating IT types who want to > maintain their bloated staffs. But the Apple advantage will be so obvious > that normally silent business managers will start to question the bad > judgement of those misguided IT types. But, couldn't it be much easier for Apple to make some major inroads into the business computing world were they to put most of their efforts into suggesting a different type of computing platform for the workplace as opposed to what is in general use today? I speak here of the iPad and future versions of same. The iPad would not replace laptops or desktops in cubicles where sensitive Department of Defense code is being written. Such environments generally require Windows machines that are tightly controlled. However, I can see lawyers loving iPads, as well as anyone who needs mobility on the job such as air conditioning and heating technicians, plumbers and electricians, contractors of all sorts. Out with the Dell laptops and in with the iPads. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
