[CTRL] InterScan NT Alert
-Caveat Lector- Receiver, InterScan has detected virus(es) in the e-mail attachment. Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:38:10 +0200 Method: Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] File: body.pif Action: clean failed - deleted Virus: WORM_MYDOOM.J www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy
On Aug 25, 2004, at 4:10 PM, The Webfairy wrote: If the claim is Eric's source file is the commercially available version of the NAUDET DVD, I'm saying NO WAY. NO WAY IN HELL> I haven't found any description of his techniques, or his source. The footage is filtered, beautifully, wonderfully filtered. I'm not saying Eric did it. I sincerely doubt he would be capable of such a sensitive loving touch. eric digitized this video directly from the naudet DVD: x-tad-biggerHere is a better quality version of the first impact I created from the Naudet brother's DVD 911. Bear in mind that even DVDs are compressed with the mpeg 2 codec. Additionally, to make it a reasonable file size for the web, this movie has been compressed with the Sorenson 3 codec at full quality from the file I used to do the analysis. Still, the artifacts have been minimized and it looks close enough to the original for casual observation. Note: this has a high data rate and may not play smoothly on all computers. /x-tad-biggerhttp://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/767orwhatzit.html you're finished, webfairy. you've now made yourself into a joke. anyone with basic competence in digital video, and pro- or pro-sumer grade equipment software, can digitize and encode the naudet footage off the DVD with the same sort of results that eric got. i'll leave it to eric to try and figure out what kind of ridiculous mistake created that weirdly mangled frame that you claim is the 'real' naudet video image. i haven't seen anything that good since the old days of wiolawa's invisible solarized reptillian empulse bombers. but the important point is that you have now stooped to raw, desperate slander and lies. you now show your true colors. after this, i can hardly imagine that anything more you have to say is even worth responding to. however, i probably will get from eric a detailed description of his entire procedure and equipment used. then, mabye someone else with time to waste will enjoy creating an identical version of the file and demonstrate that your credibility is less than zero. -brian
[CTRL] [JBirch] WSGreat Idea of the Day: Bankrupting the ACLU (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:08:03 PDT From: carl william spitzer iv [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBirch] WSGreat Idea of the Day: Bankrupting the ACLU NYC schools are now banning xmas displays, O'Reilly is having a cow: Watch The O'Reilly Factor weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to the Radio Factor! BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the Unresolved Problems segment tonight, the secular assault on Christmas continues all over the USA. Tomorrow night, we'll tell you about how the ACLU (search) is attacking Christmas in Colorado. But tonight, the New York City school system is involved in a court case. Under current city policy, Jewish menorahs are allowed to be displayed for Hanukkah (search) and the Islamic star and crescent can be shown during Ramadan (search). But the nativity scene (search) cannot be shown during the Christmas season. Now as you may know, Christmas is a federal holiday signed into law by President U.S. Grant (search). The day honors the philosophy of Jesus. With us now is Mark Green, former New York city public advocate who did run for mayor, maybe mayor some day here in the city. All right, now look, the Thomas Moore Center (search) is suing the city. The city will not provide any spokespeople, including Mayor Bloomberg (search). They're all frightened to death, because they know they were on the wrong side of this issue. MARK GREEN, FMR. NYC PUBLIC ADVOCATE: Glad to speak for Mayor Bloomberg in this one... O'REILLY: All right. You got a menorah, you got the star and crescent, but you can't have a nativity scene on a federal holiday named Christmas. It's insane, right? GREEN: The opposite of insane. They're not attacking Christianity, they're supporting the First Amendment. Bill, there's a time and a place for everything. And I happen to have friends who celebrate Christmas. What a holiday. They have family dinners. The next morning under the tree, our presents. I don't remember that... O'REILLY: All right. GREEN: And so, if you're spending public money on public education, somebody has to draw a line, difficult as it is. So they decided -- they could be wrong -- let's have a... O'REILLY: They could be wrong. GREEN: ... let's have Christmas trees and Santas in schools because they're slightly religious but largely secular. O'REILLY: Yes. Is it -- is it Santamas? Is it Christmas tree? What -- what's the name of the holiday, Mr. Green? GREEN: Santa Goldberg. O'REILLY: No. What's the name of holiday? GREEN: Well... O'REILLY: What's the name of the federal holiday, sir? GREEN: Well, it's called Christmas. O'REILLY: OK, thank you. That's where we want to start. And it's based upon the philosophy of Jesus Christ, correct? Am I wrong here? That's what the holiday celebrates, the birth of Jesus Christ. GREEN: We should all celebrate all the holidays. O'REILLY: No. Let's just walk through this. You just admitted the federal holiday was named Christmas. How could you not? It's based upon the birth of Jesus Christ, cor- rect? GREEN: Yes. O'REILLY: So you cannot depict that birth, which a federal holiday is based on. That is insane, sir. GREEN: Now would you consider it insane if you went to a public school that was 2 percent Jewish and 98 percent Christian and only Jewish symbols were shown, in effect proselytizing, you'd say, excuse me, wait a second. I don't want to be proselytized by another religion. And so there's a time and a place for everything, Bill. O'REILLY: That's not what's happening here. GREEN: Let me just finish. One second. One second. O'REILLY: You have the Menorah... GREEN: Adults... O'REILLY: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're going way off the point. You have a Menorah... GREEN: Adults are different than children. O'REILLY: No, no. You have a Menorah for Hanukkah. GREEN: Right, right. O'REILLY: I'm fine with it. You have a
[CTRL] Bipartisan betrayal at the border
-Caveat Lector- Bipartisan betrayal at the borderMichelle MalkinAugust 25, 2004Can we talk about a war other than Vietnam for a minute?Political debate is now focused on whether Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry and his mates were under fire at Cam Ranh Bay and how close he was to the Cambodian border (not very) three decades ago. But there are American foot soldiers under siege right now on our own borders.And neither party is doing much of anything to arm, fund or defend them.Instead, the Associated Press reported this weekend that President Bush's nephew, George P. Bush, traveled to Mexico in search of overseas votes and condemned the federal policy of arming U.S. Border Patrol agents with plastic pellet guns. According to the AP: "Speaking in a mix of English and sometimes-halting Spanish, George P. Bush said his uncle was not to blame for the gun policy, which has angered Mexicans. He instead blamed it on 'some local INS guy who's trying to be tough, act macho.' "Bush went further in defaming the character of our Border Patrol agents and their supervisors: "If there has been American approval for this policy, that is reprehensible," George P. Bush said of the guns, essentially paintball projectiles filled with chile powder. "It's kind of barbarous."Newsflash, George P.: Your uncle abolished the INS last spring. As for the pepperball gun policy, the Border Patrol purchased a measly 14 of the pellet guns for agents in Harlingen, Texas, earlier this month after conducting a study of non-lethal weaponry. The guns were first made available to agents to protect them against violent confrontations in California and Arizona in 2001.Whose bright idea was it to arm our border guards with chile powder as they stand watch against terrorists, drug dealers and other thugs? Border Patrol spokesman Doug Mosier noted that the guns were purchased as part of a binational pilot project with -- pay attention, George P. -- Mexico.George P. Bush calls it "barbarous" that we arm Border Patrol agents with plastic pellet guns. The true disgrace is that we have rendered our border guards defenseless, handing them toy guns instead of real weapons. The criminals in Mexico who traipse across our border have no problems with "macho" displays of barbarism. Park Ranger Kris Eggle was murdered by an AK-47-wielding Mexican drug smuggler two years ago this month. Kris was 28 when he was gunned down -- the same age as George P. Bush.You want to talk about "reprehensible"? What is reprehensible is a prominent American citizen disrespecting our federal immigration enforcement officers on foreign soil while scraping for expatriate votes. Border Patrol agents and Park Rangers on the southern border put their lives on the lines every day to protect us from harm. They should be thanked, not trashed.If George P.'s views were merely his own, they might not be worth anyone's time. But homeland security officials in Washington have been doing their fair share of undermining rank-and-file Border Patrol agents as well from the comfort of their air-conditioned offices. When a mobile unit of border agents in Southern California made a series of high-profile mass arrests of illegal aliens in June, prompting the ire of ethnic activists and Hispanic Democrats, Under Secretary for Border and Transportation Security Asa Hutchinson iced the agents' efforts and publicly criticized the arrests. Instead of backing his own men and women, Hutchinson assured the open borders lobby that his department would bow to the "sensitivities" surrounding interior enforcement.The retreat has had a devastating effect on border agents' morale -- and our safety. A new survey of border security personnel released this week by the National Border Patrol Council revealed that almost two-thirds of the workforce are demoralized, and nearly half of these employees have considered leaving their job within the past two years. The council noted: "Almost three years after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, despite the expenditure of billions of dollars and endless rhetoric from the top about how anti-terrorism is our foremost priority, only about half of these officers believe that our nation is any safer from terrorist threats."Al Qaeda plots murder with dirty bombs, truck bombs and airplanes, while we arm our border guards with chile powder. Let's roll? Bull.2004 Creators Syndicate, Inc. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you
[CTRL] US Bars Scholar From Nortre Dame For 'Anti Sharon Statements'
-Caveat Lector- Washington Post NATION IN BRIEF Wednesday, August 25, 2004; Page A18 U.S. Revokes Work Visa Of Muslim Scholar SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- The State Department revoked the work visa of a Muslim scholar who had been scheduled to teach at the University of Notre Dame this fall. Tariq Ramadan, a Swiss citizen, called the revocation unjustified and coming from political pressure. Russ Knocke, a Department of Homeland Security spokesman, said the work visa was revoked because of a section in federal law applying to aliens who have used a position of prominence within any country to endorse or espouse terrorist activity. _Free E-mail Newsletters_ News Headlines News Alert We absolutely don't agree with that, Notre Dame spokesman Matt Storin said. If we did, we would not have hired him. Storin described Ramadan as a distinguished scholar and a voice for moderation in the Muslim world. Ramadan said he opposes all forms of violence. What I'm saying as a Muslim is that when I criticize a policy, for example the Saudi policy or the Egyptian policy, I am not Islamophobic, he said. And when I am criticizing the policy of the state of Israel, of [Prime Minister Ariel] Sharon, I'm not an anti-Semite. It's just a political criticism. Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said the revocation indicates an unwillingness of Americans to listen to Muslims. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bipartisan betrayal at the border
-Caveat Lector- Bipartisan betrayal at the borderMichelle MalkinAugust 25, 2004Can we talk about a war other than Vietnam for a minute?Political debate is now focused on whether Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry and his mates were under fire at Cam Ranh Bay and how close he was to the Cambodian border (not very) three decades ago. But there are American foot soldiers under siege right now on our own borders.And neither party is doing much of anything to arm, fund or defend them.Instead, the Associated Press reported this weekend that President Bush's nephew, George P. Bush, traveled to Mexico in search of overseas votes and condemned the federal policy of arming U.S. Border Patrol agents with plastic pellet guns. According to the AP: "Speaking in a mix of English and sometimes-halting Spanish, George P. Bush said his uncle was not to blame for the gun policy, which has angered Mexicans. He instead blamed it on 'some local INS guy who's trying to be tough, act macho.' "Bush went further in defaming the character of our Border Patrol agents and their supervisors: "If there has been American approval for this policy, that is reprehensible," George P. Bush said of the guns, essentially paintball projectiles filled with chile powder. "It's kind of barbarous."Newsflash, George P.: Your uncle abolished the INS last spring. As for the pepperball gun policy, the Border Patrol purchased a measly 14 of the pellet guns for agents in Harlingen, Texas, earlier this month after conducting a study of non-lethal weaponry. The guns were first made available to agents to protect them against violent confrontations in California and Arizona in 2001.Whose bright idea was it to arm our border guards with chile powder as they stand watch against terrorists, drug dealers and other thugs? Border Patrol spokesman Doug Mosier noted that the guns were purchased as part of a binational pilot project with -- pay attention, George P. -- Mexico.George P. Bush calls it "barbarous" that we arm Border Patrol agents with plastic pellet guns. The true disgrace is that we have rendered our border guards defenseless, handing them toy guns instead of real weapons. The criminals in Mexico who traipse across our border have no problems with "macho" displays of barbarism. Park Ranger Kris Eggle was murdered by an AK-47-wielding Mexican drug smuggler two years ago this month. Kris was 28 when he was gunned down -- the same age as George P. Bush.You want to talk about "reprehensible"? What is reprehensible is a prominent American citizen disrespecting our federal immigration enforcement officers on foreign soil while scraping for expatriate votes. Border Patrol agents and Park Rangers on the southern border put their lives on the lines every day to protect us from harm. They should be thanked, not trashed.If George P.'s views were merely his own, they might not be worth anyone's time. But homeland security officials in Washington have been doing their fair share of undermining rank-and-file Border Patrol agents as well from the comfort of their air-conditioned offices. When a mobile unit of border agents in Southern California made a series of high-profile mass arrests of illegal aliens in June, prompting the ire of ethnic activists and Hispanic Democrats, Under Secretary for Border and Transportation Security Asa Hutchinson iced the agents' efforts and publicly criticized the arrests. Instead of backing his own men and women, Hutchinson assured the open borders lobby that his department would bow to the "sensitivities" surrounding interior enforcement.The retreat has had a devastating effect on border agents' morale -- and our safety. A new survey of border security personnel released this week by the National Border Patrol Council revealed that almost two-thirds of the workforce are demoralized, and nearly half of these employees have considered leaving their job within the past two years. The council noted: "Almost three years after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, despite the expenditure of billions of dollars and endless rhetoric from the top about how anti-terrorism is our foremost priority, only about half of these officers believe that our nation is any safer from terrorist threats."Al Qaeda plots murder with dirty bombs, truck bombs and airplanes, while we arm our border guards with chile powder. Let's roll? Bull.2004 Creators Syndicate, Inc. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- On Aug 24, 2004, at 7:37 PM, The Webfairy wrote: I'm not disproven. yeah, of course not, because instead of admitting your mistakes you just deliberately morph your theories to fit, a deliberately contrived attempt to keep critics running around in circles, forced to keep coming up with new debunkings that correspond to whatever happens to be your new flavor-of-the-day. This is one proof of how incredibly robust video actually is. Filtering out so much of the distortion and noize is a good thing, and I'm not bitching. The Taner version, distortions, artifact and all, was the first televised. It has great color depth, wasn't interlaced, and is still the only version to show the early frames of the object in flight without creating motion artifact. Subsequent televised versions were scalped, making it look washed out. you're making a fool out of yourself by continuing to claim that the compressed video files that circulated on the web represent the original footage more than the naudet DVD. period. I am a fan of noize filtering. It's the tellytubbie contingent claiming that filtering was distructive, or filtered out planes. so previously, you claimed that filtering removed the evidence of your 'whatzits', but now conveniently you claim that it reveals them! I am extremely dubious that the flash could appear and disappear in 1/60th of a second. well, to say so, then you must already know exactly what the flash is and already have proof!! you're way ahead of everyone else, as usual! I have some information about interlacing and filtering at http://thewebfairy.com/911/presentation This project has laid abandoned since I discovered the firetruck, and the implications became more than I could bear. everyone who has read eric's critiques knows that you have made numerous mistakes and obviously have no real expertise concerning interlacing, filtering, and the technical aspects of video in general. I will jump on whatever I think is right, as close to instantaneously as I can manage it. i think everyone can tell by now that this is exactly how you operate -- jumping to conclusions without the necessary dillegence and expertise, nor the faintest trace of disciplined self-skepticism, and subsequently ridiculing and ignoring critiques in your obsessively crypto-fascist big lie manner. you have the psychological characteristics of cult leaders, who use the same tactics - pathologizing and ridiculing outside critiques, rapidly changing the subject with blizzards of rhetoric when their fraudulent ideas are in danger of being exposed, using big words and fancy sounding terminology without substance to dazzle your followers into believing you have special insights, and cultivating an in group mindset which inverts reality, portraying you and your followers as gentle, open minded, unbiased truthseekers while dehumanizing outside critics as deluded, lying, mean-spirited persecutors. this all such classic and predictable stuff. its too bad for us all that this mindset has been penetrating so deeply into the 9/11 truth movement. There are a bunch of you, and one of me. My singular advantage is I do not have to stop to rationalize contradictions into agreeing with my previous thought. I can change my mind and toss out flaws in my thinking as I come to them. actually, i've only seen you toss out ideas after you've been totally debunked, in order to avoid honestly admitting it and instead just moving on to new change-the-subject distractions. For example, if the shadow you guys claim was the shadow of the plane -- that would mean your plane was only travelling 40 miles an hour. The earlier decimation was designed to hide that, I expect. and where have you presented you calculations for this?? i checked the links you provided and
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] von kleist... lost in foam
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- bob, thanks for the info. i wonder if von kleist really thought that no one would double-check this. for those who haven't seen 'in plane site', there's some other great shams. such as the fact that while von kleist is questioning the size of the entry hole, he's showing one of the pre-collapse photographs where the entire basement level area of missing wall and destroyed or damaged columns is completely hidden by foam being sprayed from the firetruck. the only thing visible is the second level entry hole. he shows this photograph again while suggesting that support columns weren't destroyed. he never even mentions the existence of the basement level hole wide enough to fit the engines and inner wings of a 757. he only mentions the 14-16 foot second level entry hole. totally blatant deceptive techniques. but the biggest sham of the film is the mystery explosion at the base of the WTC, which is actually a hoax video based on CNN footage that circulated on the internet a couple years ago, in which two obviously wrong-proportioned towers have been digitally superimposed over the north tower. the towers are way too skinny and the north tower antenna is in the wrong place, all very easily verifiable by comparison to other photos or videos. the mystery explosion is actually the dust cloud just starting to expand after the south tower collapse. as if this isn't bad enough, von kleist also falsely identifies the location of the explosion as northwest of the towers when in fact it is obvious from the angle of the sun and the location of the bank of america building that it is actually east or southeast. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- FONT COLOR=#99Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/vseplB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A ~- Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...i haven't seen anything that good since the old days of wiolawa's invisible solarized reptillian empulse bombers. You might note that Webfairy calls Wiolawa'a absurdities poetry. One 'expert' learns from another, apparently. Wiolawa is a bigger influence on Webfairy than you might think. Webfairy is able to bully her way into the limelight, by denigrating others, smearing them, and then claiming that she is the victim. When she attempts every now and then to interject a little humanness and humbleness into her routine, it comes off as trite and unbelievable, since she doesn't seem to possess those qualities naturally. Her natural instinct is to name-call and use every spiteful trick in the book. Venom drips off the page of a lot of her responses and in her rhetoric, contrary to the 'grandmotherly' image that she claims every now and then. Fifty years old is hardly aged and to claim the benefits of age without even getting there yet does a disservice to people who actually are old. Your point is well taken, that Webfairy can not admit to a mistake without taking a dig at someone or to some other perceived advantage. I have never seen her plain out admit to a mistake without qualification. Her bluff and bravado are what keep her going, and allow her to slip past any criticism; she takes criticism badly, no matter how originally well-intended, as coming from debunkers, telletubbies, and other such evil entities. In common with Eastman and others she is skilled at setting up sides and keeping discussions and people in constant agitation. While she is good at getting people to think that they are fighting a common enemy, one discovers over time that her enemies are those who don't see things her way. n. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- FONT COLOR=#99Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! /FONTA HREF=http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/vseplB/TM;BClick Here!/B/A ~- Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Where drugs, arms and oil intersect
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- "Where drugs, arms and oil intersect" Possibly some very important dots being connected here.First, how well are you acquainted with the US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce?You're certainly well acquainted with its members.Meet the "Honorary Council of Advisors": James Baker, Lloyd Bentson, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Dick Cheney (resigned after the Nov 2000 election), Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, John Sununu.That's just for starters. Richard Perle is a Trustee; until his State Department appointment, Richard Armitage sat on the Board. Bigger Names of Big Oil are listed here than in the Houston directory.The stated goals of the USACC include:To serve as a liaison with governmental and non-governmental entities, business organizations, think tanks, and to encourage cooperation and information exchangeTo sponsor educational programs, trade missions, seminars, conferences and publications to foster cultural and business interestsInteresting, maybe, but...so what?Think the Caspian Sea. Think pipelines. Oil of course, and also drugs.Azerbaijan sits between Russia and Iran on the Caspian, and serves as a transit point for Southwest Asian opiates bound for Russia, and to a lesser extent the rest of Europe. Well, that's what the CIA says, and they know their opiates.And what has Sibel Edmonds said?From her interview with Christopher Deliso:CD: At several points you state that such organized crime networks employ "semi-legitimate organizations" as their point of interface with governments and the "legit" world. Can you explain exactly what you mean?SE: These are organizations that might have a legitimate front say as a business, or a cultural center or something. And we've also heard a lot about Islamic charities as fronts for terrorist organizations, but the range is much broader and even, simpler.CD: For example?SE: You might have an organization supposed to be promoting the cultural affairs of a certain country within another country. Hypothetically, say, an Uzbek folklore society based in Germany. The stated purpose would be to hold folklore-related activities and they might even do that but the real activities taking place behind the scenes are criminal.CD: Such as?SE: Everything from drugs to money laundering to arms sales. And yes, there are certain convergences with all these activities and international terrorism.CD: So with these organizations we're talking about a lot of money SE: Huge, just massive. They don't deal with 1 million or 5 million dollars, but with hundreds of millions.An organization supposedly promoting the cultural affairs of another nation. Hypothetically, Uzbek.Now, in what languages did Edmonds serve the FBI as a translator?CD: Now I know you speak Turkish but what else?SE: Because of my time in Iran, I also know Farsi. And AzerbaijaniCD: So you were in the first category, a full linguist?SE: For Turkish and Azerbaijani I was, yes. But since I hadn't been practicing Farsi for practically 25 years, I was just allowed to be a monitor in that language. I passed all the FBI exams in written Farsi, but not all for speaking. So I didn't do, say, live interviews.What does this mean? It means whatever Sibel Edmonds uncovered in the translation department, came speaking Turkish or Azerbaijani.Necessarily cryptic on account of Ashcroft's gag order, she told The Baltimore Chronicle:You get to a point where it gets very complex, where you have money laundering activities, drug related activities, and terrorist support activities converging at certain points and becoming one. In certain points - and they (the intelligence community) are separating those portions from just the terrorist activities. And, as I said, they are citing "foreign relations" which is not the case, because we are not talking about only governmental
[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] Lessons from the Defeat of Chile's Marijuana Legalization Bill
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM ~- August 25, 2004 Please Distribute Widely Dear Colleague, The four members of the Constitution Commission of Chile's national Congress yesterday rejected a marijuana legalization bill sponsored by Senator Nelson Avila, who told the daily La Segunda that, although he'll keep fighting to change the marijuana laws, the bill now has little chance of passing on the floors of Congress. I will continue insisting on this change because our current laws, far from contributing to the eradication of drug trafficking, foment it because they obligate a person who smokes marijuana in the privacy of his home - which carries no penalty - to go to the mafias and cartels to procure it. Senator Avila noted that he sought to destroy the market for the drug mafias with his bill, calling the current U.S.-imposed prohibitionist drug policies profoundly wrong. The decisión by Senators Alberto Espina, José Antonio Viera Gallo, Andrés Zaldívar and Mario Ríos to recommend the bill's defeat in Congress ought to be cause for reflection - and an adjustment in strategy - for drug policy reformers not only in Chile but across the continent. How is it that while drug policy reforms advance slowly in Brazil, Argentina, and even Venezuela, this movement finds itself in retreat in Chile? The answer is simple... http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2004/8/25/95130/5246 This analysis offers some very hard questions for drug policy reformers, especially in the United States. Co-publishers: The Narcosphere is open for your comments and debate. from somewhere in a country called América, Al Giordano Publisher The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Narco News is supported by: The Fund for Authentic Journalism P.O. Box 71051 Madison Heights, MI 48071 USA http://www.authenticjournalism.org The Fund receives online donations at this web page: http://www.authenticjournalism.org Apply for your co-publisher's account, here: http://www.narconews.com/copublisher/application.php Subscribe for free alerts of new reports: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/narconews Suscríbete gratis para alertas de nuevos reportajes en español: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/narconewsandes Inscreva-se para alertas gratuitos de reportagens do último minuto em português brasileiro: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/narconewsbrasil _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/narconews/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Freedom Watch (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 10:21:34 EDT From: Charles Demastus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Freedom Watch FREEDOM WATCH is information pertaining to government abuse of power, abuse of the Constitution, illegal immigration, frivolous lawsuits, government waste, political correctness run amok, media bias, etc. It is FREE and sent to you via E-mail. To subscribe send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peroutka for President 2004 http://www.peroutka2004.com/index.php Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: --- Stories from the Civil Rights Movement. Extraordinary stories, ordinary people. Share your memories today! http://click.topica.com/caacvglbUrH0IbNOfRRa/AARP --- I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time. --H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) *** The Star Chamber Is Back by Paul Craig Roberts _http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=3314_ (http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=3314) The Lincoln few Northerners know _http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/columnists/steigerwald /s_215092.html_ (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/opinion/columnists/steigerwald/s_215092.html) Bipartisan betrayal at the border Michelle Malkin _http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040825.shtml_ (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040825.shtml) Who is the Southern Poverty Law Center and What is Their Role in the Campaign Against Prop. 200? _http://www.fairus.org/Media/Media.cfm?ID=2493c=34_ (http://www.fairus.org/Media/Media.cfm?ID=2493c=34) How Title IX Is Holding Us Back In Athens by Phyllis Schlafly _http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2004/aug04/04-08-25.html_ (http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2004/aug04/04-08-25.html) Dozens Charged in Crackdown on Spam and Scams _http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/25/technology/25spam.html?ei=5006en=f2154acc7 2bb0ba3ex=1094011200partner=ALTAVISTA1pagewanted=printposition_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/25/technology/25spam.html?ei=5006en=f2154acc72bb0ba3ex =1094011200partner=ALTAVISTA1pagewanted=printposition) = Ban the Christians, Kill the Bushites! Mike S. Adams _http://www.townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/ma20040824.shtml_ (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/mikeadams/ma20040824.shtml) The Christian Confessional State - an idea whose time has come? Robert McMullen _http://www.dixieinternet.com/page240.shtml_ (http://www.dixieinternet.com/page240.shtml) Armed Society Is Polite Society Pastor Mark Dankof _http://www.dixieinternet.com/page241.shtml_ (http://www.dixieinternet.com/page241.shtml) Mark Dankof's America _http://www.markdankof.com/_ (http://www.markdankof.com/) Pastor Mark Dankof Interviewed On Frank Whalen's Frankly Speaking Radio Program _http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Whalen/0408/20040817_Tue_FrankWhalen.ram_ (http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Whalen/0408/20040817_Tue_FrankWhalen.ram) SOUTHERN HERITAGE NEWS AND VIEWS is dedicated to the preservation of Southern Heritage and to defend the honor of our Confederate ancestors. It is FREE and sent to you via E-mail. To subscribe send e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Your free subscription is supported by today's sponsor: --- RE-GROW YOUR HAIR STARTING NOW.Click here for more info! http://click.topica.com/caacxydbUrH0IbNOfRRf/Medical Hair Restoration --- To my subscribers: Here is a phone service I have been using for over 2 years. You can have this rate (4.9 cents per min.) for outbound long distance or get an 800 number (or both). The 800 number is perfect for those with kids away at college and for truckers, salesmen, etc. International rates are VERY cheap, also. There is no monthly fee, all you pay is time used; if you make no calls, you get no bill. I get a commission if you sign up. If you already have a cheaper phone rate, please disregard. If not, what are you waiting for? Thanks. Chuck Demastus LONG DISTANCE - HOME OR BUSINESS! ONLY 4.9 cents per minute! HAVE YOUR OWN 800# - HOME OR BUSINESS NO SET-UP FEES - NO MONTHLY FEES - NO SURCHARGES FOR SERVICE 1-800-360-8918 - RD# 205 http://www.800ld.com/205/ Also UNLIMITED INTERNET ACCESS ONLY $14.95 a month
Re: [CTRL] Dick Eastman's lost weekends
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/24/2004 12:06:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ol' Friend wrote: Oh, now I understand why everyone is calling me religious right etc. You are confusing me with an evangelical christian author. FYI, I am not Dick Eastman evangelist associated with "world school of prayer" and author of a book, No Easy Road. I am Dick Eastman of Yakima and I wouldn't wish my troubled religious views on anybody -- I just don't have that subject figured out. No one has said in the past three years of Eastman's antics that he was the same author I asked about. I did entertain that it was the same but I came to the conclusions that Eastman hates Jews and pushes for fear of China and is a Christian Identity clone from WORKING EXTREMELY CLOSE with him for a period of about two years. It was his beliefs and blinders that led to my conclusion, and THEN to the curiosity as to whether or not the author and THIS Eastman were the same. This is typical of Dick jumping on a side point. Has Eastman addressed my charges of attempting character assasination on me several times and that he began acampaign of such when I switched to investigating Israeli involvements in 9-11 to American and Saudi ones? I doubt it. A conversation like that, one in which I am a live witness here to attest to things, (if prolonged) could lead to exposure of some of his secretly held beliefs. It is also a thing that he will not directly address (unless some email like this compels him to defend himself) because it could lead to emails that I have archived. It is much easier to focus on denying that he is the evangelical author because a) if he isn't it still distracts from why people actually think of him as far right (his BELIEFS) or b) if it is the same, it probably can't be proven anyway. Both Webfairy and Eastman are devotees of 'Wealth of Nations' and this speaks for itself: Economics... The far right will try to reassure you with ... Gunnar Myrdahl and the libertarian FriedrichHayek ... to promote it." -- Adam Smith, Wealth Of Nations [But here is ... www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Quotes-economics.htm - 23k - Cached - Similarpages Powell's Books - Politics-Libertarian... Liberty in Troubled Times: A Libertarian Guide to ... a resultof Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, free trade ... www.powells.com/subsection/PoliticsLibertarian.6.html - 67k - Cached - Similarpages Molinari Institute... Anarchist Society; James Boyds From Far Right to Far ... Chris R. Tames The LibertarianTradition No. ... 1775) Adam Smiths The Wealth of Nations (1776) Thomas ... praxeology.net/anarcres.htm - 62k - Aug 24, 2004 - Cached - Similarpages Amazon.com: Books: Basic Economics: A Citizens Guide to the .. book up that Sowell has a libertarian outlook (use ... above readers might see asfar-right or laize ... else but Adam Smith and his revolutionary "Wealth of Nations". ... www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ tg/detail/-/0465081452?v=glance - 80k - Cached - Similarpages Critiques Of Libertarianism: Quotations... Adam Smith, first draft of Wealth Of Nations. ... The far right will try to reassureyou with claims ... used to prove conclusions that nobody, libertarian or otherwise ... world.std.com/~mhuben/quotes.html - 101k - Cached - Similarpages It Began With Adam Smith - May 98... with his 1776 work, The Wealth of Nations, generally regarded ... the truth that thetrue "far right" -- the Klan ... being a conservative, saying Libertarian would be ... www.schoolreport.com/schoolreport/ articles/itbeganwithadamsmith_5_98.htm - 43k - Cached - Similarpages Internet Infidels Discussion Forums - The merits of capitalism .. As he wrote in The Wealth of Nations: [Businessmen are ... Cato and Fraser are explicitlylibertarian organizations, not ... both far Left and far Right forces during ... www.iidb.org/vbb/archive/index.php/t-90946 - 101k - Cached - Similarpages Internet Infidels Discussion Forums - How the income tax became a .. of Nations in 1776, and the Wealth of Nations preceeded capitalism ... offer a critiqueof the libertarian concept here ... really holds true on the (far) right side of ... www.iidb.org/vbb/archive/index.php/t-93618 - 101k - Cached - Similarpages Developer's Lair... the highest which can be got." --The Wealth of Nations, Book I ... far left, I might note--nowfar right) has a ... a free market capitalist, or a libertarian--he was a ... lair.gamedeveloper.net/forums/ posts.php?tid=1564offset=60 - 89k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similarpages [PDF] FUNDAMENTALISM AND ECONOMICS IN THE US* Laurence R. Iannaccone ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML... influenced by libertarian ideology associated with the "Chicago" and "Austrian"schools of economic thought. Libertarians like Milton Friedman and Friedrich ... www.gordon.edu/ace/pdf/Iannaccone_Fundamentalism.pdf - Similarpages ResultPage: 1 2 3 Next www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion
Re: [CTRL] 9/11 panel describes how Florida Op 40 hijackers ...
-Caveat Lector- 9/11 panel describes how Florida Op 40 hijackers got money ~ Of course they did. It supports the official cover story, that nineteen Arab hijackers committed 9-11, four of which (at least) have already been found quite alive. The first two people to testify at the 9-11 hearings were John Deutch and John Schlesinger, the first of whom formerly was attached to Mitre Corporation (remote pilotting) and the second of which is CURRENTLY attached to the same outfit. They helped set the parameters for the investigation so the panel is likely to come out with all kinds of dirt that is entirely misleading. This way they appear to be getting things done while keeping us ignorant as usual. The key story to all of this is the launch of an NRO satellite just days before Operation Two Towers and the 'piggy-back' exercise of September 11, 2001 in which the events of the day were already being 'simulated' by the NRO, CIA and other outfits. What a coincidence. Incidentally, news items of the events of the days between the day of the launch of the NRO satellite and 9-11 itself have been entirely removed from William Cooper's Veritas news service, a man who was shot to death by police just a couple of months after 9-11 as police attempted to 'serve an arrest warrant' at Cooper's home AT MIDNIGHT. Much of Cooper's research on 9-11 had, at that point, pointed directly at John Deutch. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy
-Caveat Lector- Story about Webfairy: http://pweb.netcom.com/~mthorn/thewitch.htm = http://www.darkelfdesigns.homestead.com/mkultra01.html http://tcaseybrennan.knows.it http://tcasey.inri.net http://www.angelfire.com/me/carcano http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan http://www.anomalog.com/conjurella.html http://www.popimage.com (Scroll down to my 5/12 Popimage COLUMN, CONJURELLA AVOCA: BLUE WATER LAST MEMORIES by T. Casey Brennan and click for my latest story.) __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] ALSO: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy
-Caveat Lector- The story about the Webfairy is also at THIS site but you have to SCROLL WAY DOWN to get to my story 21st Century Conjurella: The Last Witch. Or hit CTRL + F for Find, and type in Brennan: http://www.popimage.com/content/arc11-2002.html Best, T. Casey Brennan = http://www.darkelfdesigns.homestead.com/mkultra01.html http://tcaseybrennan.knows.it http://tcasey.inri.net http://www.angelfire.com/me/carcano http://www.geocities.com/avalard/brennan http://www.anomalog.com/conjurella.html http://www.popimage.com (Scroll down to my 5/12 Popimage COLUMN, CONJURELLA AVOCA: BLUE WATER LAST MEMORIES by T. Casey Brennan and click for my latest story.) __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] InterScan NT Alert
-Caveat Lector- Receiver, InterScan has detected virus(es) in the e-mail attachment. Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:27:18 +0200 Method: Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] File: readme.scr Action: clean failed - deleted Virus: WORM_MYDOOM.J www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [TheEagle-L] How Bohemian Grove Was Infiltrated (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/24/2004 7:20:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died inUnited States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations "IN OPERATIONS" as you aptly quote it is the key. One person did die in a nuclear power plant but that was due to a gas explosion yet the very statement ignores, even marginalizes the slow decay of those near nuclear power plants unto cancer and death. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bush Still Stonewalling on His Natl Guard Service
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 8/24/2004 7:14:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't FitUSA Today - August 23, 2004http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-23-bush-service_x.htmQuestions About Bush's Guard Service UnansweredBy Dave Moniz and Jim DrinkardWASHINGTON At a time when Democratic presidential candidate JohnKerry has come under fire from a group of retired naval officers whosay he lied about his combat record in Vietnam, questions aboutPresident Bush's 1968-73 stint in the Texas Air National Guard remainunresolved. (Related item: Bush urges end to TV attack ads by outsidegroups.)* Why did Bush, described by some of his fellow officers as a talentedand enthusiastic pilot, stop flying fighter jets in the spring of 1972and fail to take an annual physical exam required of all pilots?* What explains the apparent gap in the president's Guard service in1972-73, a period when commanders in Texas and Alabama say they neversaw him report for duty and records show no pay to Bush when he wassupposed to be on duty in Alabama?* Did Bush receive preferential treatment in getting into the Guardand securing a coveted pilot slot despite poor qualifying scores andarrests, but no convictions, for stealing a Christmas wreath androwdiness at a football game during his college years?The White House has released hundreds of pages of records, but thefiles released so far haven't answered those questions. Since thedocuments were released in February, at least a half-dozen newsorganizations, including USA TODAY, have filed new requests for Bush'smilitary records under the Freedom of Information Act.In an e-mail to USA TODAY last week, presidential spokesman DanBartlett said: "The president has authorized the release of hisrecords and we are complying with all requests. Some are taking longerthan others, but all will be addressed."Past military service and qualifications to be commander in chief havebecome a central theme in the 2004 presidential campaign.Questions about Bush's record predate the current campaign. Theapparent gap in his Guard service first surfaced before the 2000election, when The Boston Globe reported that Texas Guard commanderswere unable to account for Bush's whereabouts from May 1972 to April1973.Bush has not said what he did in the Guard during that period. Asidefrom a statement by a former Alabama Air Guard officer who said he sawBush report for duty there in the fall of 1972, the only evidence hewas at Dannelly Air National Guard Base in Alabama was a record of adental exam on Jan. 6, 1973, at the base.Bush said in a TV interview in February that he would make all hismilitary records available. That month, the White House released morethan 400 pages of Bush military records, including some duplicates,and said the documents were a complete catalog of his personnel files.But some documents still have not been made public. The White Housedid not release Bush's medical records from his Guard files butallowed a group of reporters who cover the White House to review themfor 20 minutes. They found nothing unusual. Kerry released some of hismilitary records earlier this year. He has also declined to releasehis complete medical records but showed them to reporters as Bush did.Since February, the White House has banned all Guard and militarycommanders outside the Pentagon from commenting on Bush's records orservice. Requests for information must go to the Pentagon's Freedom ofInformation Act office.The Pentagon last week responded to a 4-month-old request from USATODAY for additional records from Bush's files by sending another copyof documents that were released by the White House in February. Thedocuments do not address the unexplained year in Bush's Guard serviceor his decision to stop flying.The Associated Press filed a lawsuit this summer requesting copies ofBush's military records stored in a Texas archive on microfilm. Itsought information that might explain why Bush did not take his flightphysical and whether he showed up for duty in Alabama in the fall of1972, AP spokesman John Stokes said. *Search the NYTr Archives at:http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/To subscribe or unsubscribe or change your settings via the web, visit:http://olm.blythe-systems.com/mailman/listinfo/nytr= NY Transfer News Collective * A Service of Blythe Systems Since 1985 - Information for the Rest of Us 339 Lafayette St., New York, NY 10012 http://www.blythe.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]= www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths,
[CTRL] More secrets of the Skull 'n Bones tomb
-Caveat Lector- http://www.niburu.nl/showarticle.php?articleID=1710 Onthullend en Bewustmakend Nieuws More secrets of the Skull 'n Bones tomb Geplaatst op 24.02.2004 om 13:08:21 uur | 774 bekeken | Wereld | WWW.NIBURU.NL | print TV-tip: vanavond in Twee vandaag een portret van Skull and Bones man Kerry. Background Sometime in the early 1830s, a Yale student named William H. Russell - the future valedictorian of the class of 1833 - traveled to Germany to study for a year. Russell came from an inordinately wealthy family that ran one of the United States' most despicable business organizations of the nineteenth century: Russell and Company, an opium empire. Russell would later become a member of the Connecticut State Legislature, agGeneral in the Connecticut National Guard, and the founder of the Collegiate and Commercial Institute in New Haven. While in Germany, Russell befriended the leader of an insidious German secret society that hailed the death.s head as its logo. Russell soon became caught up in this group, itself a sinister outgrowth of the notorious eighteenth century society of the Illuminati. When Russell returned to the U.S., he found an atmosphere so anti-Masonic that even his beloved Phi Beta Kappa, the honor society, had been unceremoniously stripped of its secrecy. Incensed, Russell rounded up a group of the most promising students in his class - including Alphonso Taft, the future Secretary of War, Attorney General, Minister to Austria, Ambassador to Russia, and father of future President William Howard Taft - and out of vengeance constructed the most powerful secret society the United States has ever known. The men called their organization the "Brotherhood of Death", or, more informally, "The Order of Skull and Bones". They adopted the numerological symbol 322 because their group was the second chapter of the German organization, founded in 1832. They worshipped the goddess Eulogia, celebrated pirates, and covertly plotted an underground conspiracy to dominate the world. Skull 'n Bones tentacles in US society Fast forward 170 years. Skull and Bones has curled its tentacles into every reach of American society. This tiny club has set up networks that have thrust three members to the most powerful political position in the world. And its power is only increasing - the 2004 Presidential election might showcase the first time each ticket has been led by a Bonesman. The secret society now, as one historian admonishes, is "'an international mafia' . . . unregulated and all but unknown". In its quest to create a New World Order that restricts individual freedoms and places ultimate power solely in the hands of a small cult of wealthy, prominent families, Skull and Bones has already succeeded in infiltrating nearly every major research, policy, financial, media, and government institution in the country. Skull and Bones, in fact, has been running the United States for years. Selecting new members Skull and Bones cultivates its talent by selecting members from the junior class at Yale University, a school known for its strange, Gothic elitism and its rigid devotion to the past. The society screens its candidates carefully, favoring Protestants, or, now, white Catholics, with special affection for the children of wealthy, East Coast Skull and Bones members. Skull and Bones has been dominated by approximately two dozen of the country.s most prominent families - Bush, Bundy, Harriman, Lord, Phelps, Rockefeller, Taft, and Whitney, among them - who are encouraged by the society to inter-marry so that the society's power is consolidated. In fact, the society forces members to confess their entire sexual histories so that Skull and Bones, as a eugenics overlord, can determine whether a new Bonesman will be fit to carry on the bloodlines of the powerful Skull and Bones dynasties. A rebel will not make Skull and Bones; nor will anyone whose background in any way indicates that he will not sacrifice for the greater good of the larger organization. Initiation ceremony It remains largely a matter of conjecture what lies behind the "Mystery of 322". 322 is supposedly the society's magic number, and also the number of the room that forms the inner sanctum. As soon as initiates are allowed into the "tomb", a dark, windowless crypt in New Haven with a roof that serves as a landing pad for the society's private helicopter, they are sworn to silence and told they must forever deny that they are members of this organization. During initiation, which involves ritualistic psychological conditioning, the juniors wrestle in mud and are physically beaten - this stage of the ceremony represents their "death" to the world as they have known it. They then lie naked in coffins, masturbate, and reveal to the society their innermost sexual secrets. After this cleansing, the Bonesmen give the initiates robes to represent their new identities as individuals with a higher purpose. The society anoints the initiate with
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Fwd: Sander Hicks on 9/11 Report
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- WWW.NYPRESS.COM | AUGUST 24, 2004 SANDER HICKSBOOKS THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT BY THE NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES W.W. NORTON, 516 PAGES, $10 IN THE RECENT documentary Outfoxed, media critic Robert McChesney suggests right-leaning news outlets like Fox News are worse than the Stalinist-era propaganda. At least in Soviet Russia, he says, people knew they were getting the official party line. The problem of the 9/11 Commission Report is similar. Instead of being printed by the government that wrote it, the Report is published by the employee-owned, independent press W. W. Norton Co. The writing style goes out of its way to appear informal, with occasional references to Hollywood films or rhetoric about the importance of civil liberties. Norton's first printing of 500,000 has already been snapped up, leaving bookstores nation-wide out of it, in more ways than one. The only way to explain the best-seller status of this dry, stiff and cynical book is to understand the 9/11 disaster as a national trauma so intense that the co-dependent American family is still reaching for anything that will assure it. The Saudi-Pakistani-Bush Family-CIA connections aren't as incestuous as they seem, right? Everybody in the government did everything in their power to stop it, didn't they? Surely they couldn't have known about 9/11 and allowed it to happen to justify their agenda, right? The Report may be the most literary work ever authored by a group of 10. "Tuesday, September 11, 2001, dawned temperate and nearly cloudless in the eastern United States" is the opener. It's that undergraduate formula: Start with the weather. The Report then moves on to tell a selective conspiracy theory. The authors' motto: Do what Kissinger would have done. Protect the White House. This Commission is as determined as the kooks who shouted objections and were tackled by cops at their hearings. While the Report pays lip service to the value of the "investigative journalists and watchdog organizations" who initiate government inquiries, the Commission refused to call any 9/11 watchdogs or investigative journalists to testify. Instead, they brought in fellow bureaucrats, politicians, spies and policy wonks who provided a parade of mind-blowingly dull chatter. The 10 D.C. insiders that make up the Commission did their best not to look at any of the strange anomalies that abound around 9/11. On page 20, for example, the Commission reports that an air defense controller at the Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) reacted to the hijackings by asking, "Is this real-world, or exercise?" The terrorists somehow knew to strike on the morning that NORAD, NEADS and the Joint Chiefs of Staff were preoccupied with three different air defense drills (operations named things like "Vigilant Guardian," etc.) Although victim family member Mindy Kleinberg brought up this coincidence to them on the first day of hearings, the Commission only mentioned it as an afterthought, buried in the notes section in the back of the book. Regarding the background of Osama bin Laden, the Commission dives head-on into the history of the terrorist ringleader's training as a mujahedeen by the CIA: They deny it. Bin Laden was the CIA's point man in Afghanistan in the 80s; he ran the Maktab al-Khidamar. The MAK was the "primary conduit," according to MSNBC, for cash, weapons and CIA intelligence to flow through Pakistan's mini-CIA, the ISI. Three weeks after 9/11, the CIA's Bill Harlowe tried to spin that the CIA never had "any relationship whatsoever" with Bin Laden. And the 9/11 Commission shows its cards by trying to repeat the claim: Bin Laden received "little or no assistance from the United States" in Afghanistan. It's no surprise then to learn that a
[CTRL] EXODUS
-Caveat Lector- Will the plutocrats make their Exodus from Area 51, en route to Moonshine City? Z http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens Citizens for the inherent dignity and worth of the human person Quoted words from UDHR/CAT -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:34:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: * (ADAR) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U-S-A] Re: [THE-DIALECTIC-OF-THE-DIALECTIC] Pretending to be Shlocked http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens Citizens for the inherent dignity and worth of the human person Quoted words from UDHR/CAT On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, * (ADAR) * wrote: Indecent Society Suggesting we're in pretty good shape now defies logic and ignores and avoids the problem. Is anyone suggesting that the so-called ECONOMIC BOOM is a benefit to most working men and women? No one can prove that trickle down actually works? It doesn't. The wealthy ruling classes never pay for more than they need, Of course not. What kind of self-respecting golem keeps pretending to be a shlemiel, schlocked when the plutocrats treat the peasant masses as shmucks and shmoos? The ~500 billionaire families are saving their pennies for Moonshine City from which they will rule over this planet as U-S-A now rules over the American people through its puerile puppet presidents. This will be their little planetary zoo. Z LEZ in spite of any give-backs to motivate capital investment. The wealthy ruling classes only invest in business when they know they can make a bigger profit. They only hire when they must and only at wages which under any circumstances should be considered criminal - because this elite is not altruistic or compassionate. It is greedy and profit hungry. People don't matter. For them, only the profits matter. (August 25, 2004) * Pretending to be Shocked http://www.g0lem.net/PhpWiki/index.php/IndecentSociety PNEWS-L is one of the oldest repositories for progressive news and views on the internet. Founded as a progressive solidarity network on ham radio in the 60s and in 1982 on the internet. http://pnews.org/ (Links to Portals) Subscribe to the forums - http://pnews.org/signup.shtml - NEWS updated daily at http://g0lem.net/PhpWiki * Let us talk about what we are not supposed to talk about until we know good-speak from bad-speak; Whitehouse moronspeak from smartspeak. What is the code of totem and taboo under Whitehouse-Orwellian newspeak as it was called in 1984? What is doubleplus ungood crimethink in Orwell's classic? * Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM ~- U-S-A = Usurers, Sodomites, Abortionists. The U-S-A Cult is the ruling power over America-the-Good and now seeks to a establish One World Government of Evil-Doers via the Afghanistan-Iraq domino effect. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/U-S-A/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [CITIZENS_ASSEMBLY] Does MMM = Martin's Murdered Million?
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:26 PM Subject: [CITIZENS_ASSEMBLY] Does MMM = Martin's Murdered Million? Extreme yes, but until a proper investigation is done, how do we know? POC - Original Message - From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:06 PM Subject: [EE_UNHCHR_PETITION] Vancouver Clr Jim Green's Guarantee ... of LIFE? Clr. Green, re your statement on BCTV News last night, ie I GUARANTEE IT in reply to Kerr of DERA. The 27 from Marr Hotel are being evicted. But how many tens of thousands have received that threat daily from MHR and over a period of years? How many of those have been as scrupulously monitored as the 27 from Marr? How many are dead? How many have thugs killed in service to the plutocrats who govern this province and country? Just asking. What are the answers? Maybe Harvey Overfeld will ask Stephen Harper. UNTIL SUCH QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED WHY WOULD ANYONE IN HIS/HER RIGHT MIND GO INTO AN MHR OFFICE TO BE SUBJECTED TO GESTAPO-LIKE ABUSE ? - Thus when you say you GUARANTEE a home to those threatened with homelessness, do you also mean those threatened with homelessness, past-and-future by MHR? Z - Original Message - From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: [EndingPoverty] Fw: [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] Missing Million Methodological Issues - Original Message - From: Party of Citizens To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 1:56 PM Subject: [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] Missing Million Methodological Issues Dear Mr. Choi: Just read your article on methodological issues in public health surveillance (Chronic Diseases in Canada, Spring 2004). Would you and others at Health Canada be so kind as to put your thinking caps on as to how one might solve the methodological issues surrounding the missing million? If you go to the National Council on Welfare link from POC's home page, you will see that well over 1,000,000 Canadians have left welfare rolls over the past decade. When exit surveys are conducted in BC, only 1/3 of exiters are found and as one might expect, most of them are employed. Employed people are easy to trace because they likely have telephones and electronic trails through employment insurance deductions, tax deductions etc. When we multiply the number exiting at NCW's web site by 2/3 we get ~1,000,000. These are Canadians who are greatly at risk with respect to health problems. The number is considerable, ie 1 Canadian out of 30. Moreover, if the social insurance system has failed them it has failed all Canadians because it is there for all to use when they need it. Social insurance payouts supply mainly food, clothing and shelter. One cannot remain healthy deprived of these essentials. Are the missing million in good physical and mental health or not? That is the question we would like answered. How do you think the surveillance should proceed methodologically? There are all the elements of a good Sherlock Holmes and Watson story here. When we asked around about the welfare exiters from the BC rolls, we were told by informed people that most likely the large majority of these people had left BC for more welfare-friendly provinces. But that doesn't hold up when we look at the trans-Canada picture because much the same proportion has exited welfare in all provinces and territories. Have those 2/3 exiters found jobs? Not likely because again, employed people are easy to trace. Once in a while, one must entertain the black notion that the exiters are mostly the dead. Wouldn't that be at least one way to register success for private for-profit businesses who manage welfare? Also playing the odds like a Vegas slot jockey we can as well entertain the notion that 1,000,000 Canadians have found rich uncles! When Sherlock Holmes says, Elementary my dear Watson we can all breathe a sigh of relief. Z
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Porter Goss in Pakistan hours before Pak ISI assassinated Massud
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- -Caveat Lector- Bob wrote: "Porter Goss and Bob Graham established a close working relationship with the ISI chief, General Ahmad. The latter had in fact "briefed" the two Florida lawmakers at ISI headquarters in Rawalpindi, Pakistan...Senator Bob Graham's] first foreign trip as chairman [of the Senate Intelligence Committee], a late-August [2001] journey with House intelligence Chairman Goss...The Head of the ISI arrived in the US on the 4th. Graham states in the interview that he got back a few days before 9/11, which suggests that the Goss-Graham mission could well have returned to Washington on board the same (military) plane as General Ahmad...While trivializing the importance of the 9/11 breakfast meeting, The Miami Herald (16 September 2001) confirms that General Ahmad also met Secretary of State Colin Powell in the wake of the 9/11 attacks" http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO407A.html ___ http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO206A.html the money used to finance the 9-11 attacks had allegedly been "wired to WTC hijacker Mohammed Atta from Pakistan, by Ahmad Umar Sheikh, at the instance of [ISI Chief] General Mahmoud [Ahmad]." 10 According to the AFP (quoting the intelligence source): "The evidence we have supplied to the U.S. is of a much wider range and depth than just one piece of paper linking a rogue general to some misplaced act of terrorism." 11 10. The Times of India, Delhi, 9 October 2001. 11. AFP, 10 October 2001. _ Ahmad Umar Sheikh aka Khalid Sheikh Mohammed(KSM) aka Saeed Sheikh aka Daniel Pearl's kidnapper, educated at London School of Economics, prison gang leader in India prisons, taking 911 orders from Pak ISI, not from Osama Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---End Message---
[CTRL] Fw: [LJ] Re: [ParanoidTimes] LRAD - This device comes across loud and clear
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Party of Citizens To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:57 PM Subject: [LJ] Re: [ParanoidTimes] LRAD - This device comes across loud and clear What will they think of next maybe gum-implanted remotely-controlled dispensers-of-tooth-pain to control the peasant masses of planet hell while they frolick beneath a huge Fuller Dome in Moonshine City! Z - Original Message - From: Kick The NWO To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: [ParanoidTimes] LRAD - This device comes across loud and clear "The LRAD is capable of emitting 151 decibles of sound, which is louder than a jetliner taking off but not quite as loud as a rocket launch. Sounds at 120 decibels and higher are considered to be above the human threshold of pain. The device is effective at distances of 500 yards and more, especially over water." This device comes across loud and clearChristopher Cousins, The Times Record (Maine)08/25/2004 TOPSHAM-- A small company is distributing new technology, which is being heard loud and clear around the world. Really, really loud and clear ... and developed right here in Topsham. American Technology Corp., a 35-person California-based company with a branch office in the Great Bowdoin Mill, developed its "long range acoustic device" so person-to-person communication can occur at distances usually reserved for telephones, radios or other communication devices. In layman's terms, it's essentially a large speaker, but the device is so loud that a key is required to turn it up all the way. "Our's go to 11," quipped Steve Bradbury, recalling a classic line from the parody documentary "This is Spinal Tap," in which a spoofed rock star explains how the volume on his amplifiers go one notch higher than any other. The device, referred to by Bradbury and his coworkers as the "LRAD," was recently installed aboard Humvees and other police vehicles in New York City for use during next week's Republican National Convention. It is also deployed aboard warships around the world, in war zones in Iraq and Afghanistan and on oil platforms in Bahrain. It is also being used at the Olympic Games in Athens, Greece, for long-range announcements. Bradbury, the company's product development manager, demonstrated the device recently outside the Great Bowdoin Mill. "Keep going," he told a reporter and a photographer at least three times as they walked away from the device to test its effectiveness. Even at its lowest setting, a pre-recorded voice track could be heard and understood clearly at 100 yards. At that distance, a warning tone emitted by the device was, as promised in company literature, "highly irritating." And all this was possible with only the power of a 12-volt battery booster device. The LRAD is capable of emitting 151 decibles of sound, which is louder than a jetliner taking off but not quite as loud as a rocket launch. Sounds at 120 decibels and higher are considered to be above the human threshold of pain. The device is effective at distances of 500 yards and more, especially over water. Developed with mostly private funds, the LRAD was designed in reaction to the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen in October 2000. That terrorist attack highlighted the need for a way for the military to communicate with-- and warn-- approaching watercraft at long distances. It looks like a single large speaker, but it's actually an array of more than 70 very small and precisely aimed speakers, which collaborate to emit a focused "beam" of sound. Standing behind it, the LRAD doesn't sound that loud, even at high volumes. In front of it is considered a danger zone. Other than vessel-to-vessel communication, it is used for crowd control, building-clearing operations, psychological operations and other uses. "People are very impressed when they see it," said Bradbury, who mans the small Topsham office with Ken Winter, director of systems engineering and product development, and A.J. Ballard, another project manager. "This company will be growing in the near future. We're all out straight here." Winter said the company is committed to keeping operations in Maine. "We find Maine to be an ideal workplace and are pursuing a larger manufacturing role for this great state," said Winter. "We look forward to a bright future for our company." http://www.timesrecord.com/website/main.nsf/news.nsf/0/677CD27F610BD8FE05256EFB00563D93?Opendocument Troops in Iraq Get High-Tech Noisemaker March 3, 2004 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParanoidTimes/message/23820 == IF YOU'RE NOT
[CTRL] Riggs Bank under criminal probe?
-Caveat Lector- "The U.S. attorney's letter ... asked federal bank regulators to suspend their investigation into the bank, its directors and senior management "to avoid any potential adverse impact" on the Justice Department investigation, the newspaper reported..." - Riggs Bank under criminal probe? Report says money laundering investigation looking at role of current and former executives. August 21, 2004: 8:24 AM EDT WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Justice Department has begun a criminal investigation into possible wrongdoing at Riggs Bank, The Washington Post reported Saturday, citing a letter from the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia to federal bank regulators. The U.S. attorney's office was investigating the role of current and former executives and directors of Riggs Bank (RIGS: Research, Estimates) and its parent company, Riggs National Corp., the newspaper reported, citing unnamed sources. A spokesman for Riggs was not available to comment. The investigation is aimed at determining which individuals, if any, should be held accountable for the company's failure to comply with federal laws designed to deter money laundering and other questionable activities that have surfaced in ongoing probes, The Washington Post said, citing sources. The U.S. attorney's letter, obtained by the newspaper, asked federal bank regulators to suspend their investigation into the bank, its directors and senior management "to avoid any potential adverse impact" on the Justice Department investigation, the newspaper reported. Riggs National Corp. said earlier this month it was subject to various investigations relating to accounts maintained by Equatorial Guinea, Saudi Arabia and former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. A Chilean judge has questioned Pinochet about secret U.S. bank accounts worth up to $8 million, a member of Pinochet's legal defense said Friday. A Senate investigation into Riggs Bank revealed in July that Pinochet and his wife held up to $8 million in the bank between 1994 and 2002 and cashed several cheques in Chile drawn on those accounts. In May, Riggs paid a $25 million civil penalty to the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency to settle allegations it shirked its duties under anti-money-laundering rules. The Washington Post said the actions of the company's largest shareholder, Joe Allbritton, his wife, and son, who is chairman of the bank and holding company, are under review. Riggs last month agreed to be bought by PNC Financial Services Group Inc. for $700 million. Copyright 2004 Reuters All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Find this article at: http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/21/news/midcaps/riggs.reut www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Iraqi Teens Abused at Abu Ghraib, Amish sex scandal
-Caveat Lector- scroll for articles describes abuse - Iraqi Teens Abused at Abu Ghraib, Report Finds By Josh White and Thomas E. Ricks The Washington Post 8/24/04 "An Army investigation into the Abu Ghraib prison scandal has found that military police dogs were used to frighten detained Iraqi teenagers as part of a sadistic game, one of many details in the forthcoming report that were provoking expressions of concern and disgust among Army officers briefed on the findings. Earlier reports and photographs from the prison have indicated that unmuzzled military police dogs were used to intimidate detainees at Abu Ghraib, something the dog handlers have told investigators was sanctioned by top military intelligence officers there. But the new report, according to Pentagon sources, will show that MPs were using their animals to make juveniles -- as young as 15 years old -- urinate on themselves as part of a competition." http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/082504A.shtml Amish sex scandal: An 8-year penalty for years of pain Paul Levy, Star Tribune 8/19/04 "VIROQUA, WIS. ""I was molested by my father when I was 3 and gang-raped day after day by my cousins and brothers, starting when I was 6 or 7," she told the Star Tribune before Wednesday's sentencing. Byler, 20, alleges that she was raped more than 200 times by members of the Amish family in which she grew up. "And when I'd tell my mother about it, she'd tell me that if I had prayed harder, fought harder, these things wouldn't happen. "I was sent to school ... and my mother told me, 'If you truly don't want this to happen, it won't.' I've been judged by the Amish all my life. I've been on trial all my life." "Eli Byler, 24, who told the Star Tribune in April that he first raped his sister when Mary was 8 and he was 12, was sentenced to eight years in prison Wednesday after previously pleading guilty to one count of the sexual assault of a child." http://www.startribune.com/stories/362/4935629.html www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IUFO: Global Warming Means More Frost-Free Days (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Remember:More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than have died in United States Commercial Nuclear Power plant operations visit my web site at http://www.info-quest.org My ICQ# is 79071904 See the Pledge of alleginace to the flag that the 9th circuit court of appeals doesn't want you to say. for a precise list of the powers of the Federal Government linkto: http://www.info-quest.org/Enumerated.html -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 14:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Informant News [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IUFO: Global Warming Means More Frost-Free Days Oh Boy!!! And longer growing seasons too! Are they trying to put a positive spin on this maybe? Joe http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNewsstoryID=6070833 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Frost will become less and less common across much of the world as global warming accelerates, U.S. researchers reported on Wednesday. The latest of a series of reports on the real-life effects of climate change shows fewer days and nights when the air temperature dips below freezing. The report, from the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, joins a study from the same group released earlier this month predicting more severe and common heat waves in cities such as Paris and Chicago and another one focusing on California that showed higher temperatures would threaten the dairy and grape industries. Also this month, the European Environment Agency predicted that cold winters could disappear almost entirely from Europe by 2080 and that heat waves and floods would become more common. Weather researchers have already noticed fewer days when there is a frost in some areas, especially in the Western United States. Writing in the journal Climate Dynamics, NCAR researchers Gerald Meehl, Claudia Tebaldi and Doug Nychka used a Department of Energy climate model to forecast day-to-day changes in temperature at the end of this century. The model predicted a steady loss of days when there will be a frost in 2080 to 2099 compared to 1961-1990. In general, there is a gradient from west to east across the continent, with greater decreases in frost days in the western regions, Meehl said in a statement. Changes in atmospheric circulation will cause the change, Meehl said. The model predicts that in northwestern North America, low-level winds will blow more often from the Pacific, carrying mild air during the winter. Eastern North America will get more cold Canadian air, however. A similar pattern is seen in Europe and Asia, with Northern Europe getting more warm ocean air and Asia getting cold continental blasts. But the researchers do not find that the change in frost patterns will affect agriculture. For example, the average first frost and last frost dates do not change, although the technical growing season may lengthen because more days, on average, will see average temperatures of above 41 degrees F. var year = new Date() document.write('copy; Reuters ' + year.getFullYear() + . All Rights Reserved. ); © Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved. Informant News - Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substanceânot soap-boxingâplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'âwith its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsâis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] From the New, Improved CIA (Canadian Intelligence Agency)
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:58:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Office of the Governor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [commercialproperty] Real Estate and Dry Climates Ha! You think it is dry in Nevada ... wait until the MIB start the Great Exodus from Area 51 to Moonshine City. Better hope there is a lot of water at the Lunar pole! The huge Fuller Dome they are planning to cover Moonshine City with should trap it better than a Vegas sewer but still it has to be a closed and efficient system. Do we win a big prize from the Luxor for guessing what they are up to in Area 51? Let's see ... 70,000,000 visitors/year @ $1/ticket. And when the curtains open at Area 51, whoever guessed closest wins the prize ... a nice piece of commercial property in Moonshine City. Zandu Goldbar $ (Friend of Nevada) http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens Citizens for the inherent dignity and worth of the human person Quoted words from UDHR/CAT On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Office of the Governor wrote: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: August 25, 2004 Contact Greg Bortolin or John Trent 775-684-5670 Gov. Guinn requests federal relief for drought CARSON CITY - Gov. Kenny Guinn today requested drought relief for all 17 Nevada counties from the Secretary of Agriculture, Ann Veneman. The Governor was granted a similar request in September of 2003 for $5 million in financial assistance and all of the State#8217;s 17 counties were designated primary natural disaster areas. #8220;This is Nevada#8217;s fifth year of drought and Nevada#8217;s agricultural producers are being hit hard,#8221; Gov. Guinn said. #8220;I owe it to our farmers and ranchers to seek this relief.#8221; In a meeting of the USDA State Emergency Board on August 16, 2004, reports were presented from each county#8217;s emergency board, USDA#8217;s Farm Service Agency, and the U.S. Drought Monitor. After careful review of these documents, Farm Service Agency#8217;s Roger Van Valkenburg, Chairperson, Nevada State USDA Emergency Board, and Don Henderson, Director, Nevada Department of Agriculture presented Governor Guinn with these reports to support a request for drought designation from USDA. According to the 2004 Nevada Damage Assessment Report, some Nevada counties suffered as much as a 100 percent loss of production on certain crops based on availability of water and Mormon cricket and Grasshopper infestation. The Emergency Board for Pershing County reported a 70 percent loss is native pasture and range, 100 percent loss of mixed forage hay, a 66 percent loss of alfalfa hay and a 100 percent loss grain crops. These are devastating numbers for Pershing County farmers and ranchers. Additionally, the U.S. Drought Monitor has classified the majority of Nevada to be in a D3 Drought Category that means extreme. A drought designation for Nevada would make all qualified farm operators eligible for low-interest emergency loans from the Farm Service Agency. Additionally, with this designation, Nevada farmers and ranchers are eligible to receive most emergency farm assistance that will be passed by Congress over the coming year. ole0.bmp Office of the Governor MEDIA CONTACT: 8-25drought.doc 101 North Carson Street Ed Foster Carson City, NV 89701 Nevada Department of Agriculture Fax: 775-684-7198 775-846-1817 You are receiving this e-mail because you are a member of Governor Kenny C. Guinn's Press Release List. To Subscribe, go to our Subscribe page http://gov.state.nv.us/E-PR/ePR_SUBSCRIBE.asp. To Unsubscribe, go to our Unsubscribe page http://gov.state.nv.us/E-PR/ePR_UNSUBSCRIBE.asp. Governor Guinn's Archived Press Releases. http://gov.state.nv.us/pr_2004.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/GEEolB/TM ~- Have any suggestions for this site; please e-mail us [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also list your web site here. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/commercialproperty/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects
[CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy
-Caveat Lector- www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om ---BeginMessage--- Title: Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy -Caveat Lector- The Salter frames are not possibly from the Naudet DVD. The Naudet DVD is terribly degraded footage. This is the flash frame Salter enlargement, enlarged. Naudet frame, enlarged http://thewebfairy.com/911/missilegate/salterflash.jpg http://thewebfairy.com/911/missilegate/naudetflash.jpg Two different cleaning jobs, one excellent, one very, very poor. The Salter frames are Excellent!!! You should take the compliment. Webfairy has put her foot in it again. The frame titled naudetflash.jpg is simply a video frame that is interlaced. That is, both fields are still present. My file has been deinterlaced. Here is a description of interlacing that I referenced in my original article, a description that Webfairy has either not read or not understood: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~nd/surprise_96/journal/vol4/sab/report.html the even and odd lines of each video frame are scanned at different times, so objects will have moved, resulting in the hatching seen in the naudetflash.jpg that Webfairy offers. Movies compressed for the web must be de-interlaced to removed this artifact. Once again, Webfairy is easily debunked and shows that she knows almost nothing about video. And once again she owes me an apology for making unfounded claims of fraud. The low quality taner.net version of the Naudet video that Webfairy inexplicably continues to use has been dei-nterlaced, removing the field on which the flash occurs. Dave from 911blimp.net sent me a vhs copy of the Naudet footage as it originally aired on Sept11 or 12th. I performed the same processing as I did to the footage from the DVD, increasing the frame rate of the compressed movie from 29.97 to 60 frames per second so that both fields would have their own frame. If I left it at 30 fps I would have had to de-interlace it, removing one of the fields. As you can see, there is no difference between the DVD version and the originally aired version save the noise and artifacts caused by bad signals and low quality VHS recording that Dave's copy suffers from. All this blather about filtering and modification of the video is crap and is typical of Webfairy's ignorance of video. http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/WTC767images/wtc1hit-Dave.mov http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/WTC767images/WTC1hitzoom.mov As norgenson has said, Webfairy is full of bluff and bravado, using the schoolyard tactic of trying to win the argument by yelling the loudest and making empty boasts of victory. No one with half a brain in their head is falling for her arguments, although she is consistently dragging the rest of us serious 9/11 researchers back into time wasting emotional debates. She's been debunked, everybody knows it and I'm sure the rest of us are going to have to suffer increasingly hysterical outbursts from her as this reality sinks in even further. Regardless of her technical mistakes, it's time for physical evidence researchers who have held back criticism of Webfairy because of the utility of her video resources to come out firmly opposed to her hateful and childish behavior. I'm just two weeks removed from major surgery and in considerable pain, and I'm having to spend precious time and energy defending myself from Webfraudy's attacks. What a waste. I trust that there will be continued movement from serious 9/11 researchers to condemn both Webfairy's errant work and despicable tactics. Eric Please let us stay on topic and be civil.-Home Page- www.cia-drugs.org OM Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. www.ctrl.org
[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy
-Caveat Lector- The reason Webfairy left my list is because she was convinced that I had been gotten to by the "dracs" - to use HER terminology and all this began over my insistence that to study the topic of the pineal gland is not a path to the satanic. First, another classic set of bizarre statements by Webfairy followed by links to everything on my old list relating to this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/7787 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: brother smiley wrote: could you explain "false-flag trap" ??? I mean, since smoking marijuana affects mind controlled people's programming and can free them,nice...that is considered inside info...should a victim wander over to this page, the flashy stuff will give them a headache, or a message to go do something else, or to contact their leader, or whatever.the pineal gland is light sensitive...the pineal gland regulatesseratonin and melatonin flow...in some frogs the pineal gland almostprotrudes out of the skull and looks like an eye...our eyes directlight to the pineal and when the pineal senses light, it producesseratonin, the 'awake' hormone...otherwise, it produces melatonin -the sleep hormone...flashing lights confuse the pineal...creating anxietyan anxious mind is less capable of resisting manipulation and moreeasily 'interrogated' ~ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psy-op/message/7800 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Webfairy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the pineal gland is light sensitive...the pineal gland regulates seratonin and melatonin flow...in some frogs the pineal glandalmost protrudes out of the skull and looks like an eye...our eyesdirect light to the pineal and when the pineal senses light, it produces seratonin, the 'awake' hormone...otherwise, it producesmelatonin - the sleep hormone... flashing lights confuse the pineal...creating anxiety an anxious mind is less capable of resisting manipulation andmore easily 'interrogated' The Pineal is the seat of Conscience. Occult ceremonies that claim to "OPen the Third Eye" by manipulating the pineal are actually doing a Pineal Lobotomy. This is why the truly evil ones we see in CFR photos etc always have a noticeably drooping left eye. also it is the third eye...certain chemicals stimulate, prednisonefor example..psilocintrinocular vision is the wave of the future...ask yourself why thepharaoh's headresses had a snake issuing from the area... ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also it is the third eye...certain chemicals stimulate, prednisone for example..psilocin trinocular vision is the wave of the future...ask yourself why the pharaoh's headresses had a snake issuing from the area... would love to hear pc93's take on this...you out there? Woah there"wave of the future"... pharoh's headdress...snake... Um, them's the butchers out to use us for meat. You been assimilated?a pharaoh's morals have little to do with whether or not he actuallyunderstands some neurochemistry... ~~~ AND THE ANTICS GO ON (these posts are ordered chronologically with the first at the bottom followed, ultimately, with the most recent at the top) - 8189 Re: pineal smileyundaunted Mon 5/20/2002 8188 Re: pineal smileyundaunted Mon 5/20/2002 8172 Re: pineal The Webfairy Mon 5/20/2002 8162 Re: pineal smileyundaunted Mon 5/20/2002 8156 Re: pineal smileyundaunted Mon 5/20/2002 8153 Re: pineal smileyundaunted Mon 5/20/2002 7897 Re: pineal The Webfairy Wed 5/15/2002 7829 Re: pineal Johannus Faustus Tue 5/14/2002 7825 Re: pineal The Webfairy Tue 5/14/2002 7822 Re: pineal smileyundaunted Mon 5/13/2002 7819 Re: pineal The Webfairy Mon 5/13/2002 7814 Re: pineal smileyundaunted Mon 5/13/2002 7803 Re: pineal The Webfairy Mon 5/13/2002 7800 Re: pineal smileyundaunted Mon 5/13/2002 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=""ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om