Re: "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" needs examples
Hi, Holger Wansing wrote: > What would people think about such addition to the manual: > > > > diff --git a/en/appendix/preseed.xml b/en/appendix/preseed.xml > index d7570d6b3..c11cc240d 100644 > --- a/en/appendix/preseed.xml > +++ b/en/appendix/preseed.xml > @@ -570,6 +570,27 @@ always need to specify a value as well: for example, > > > > + > + Examples of boot prompt preseeding > + > + > +Here are some examples of how the boot prompt might look like > +(you will need to adapt this to your needs; also see linkend="boot-screen"/>.) > + > + > +# To set French as language and France as country: > +/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/gtk/initrd.gz language=fr > country=FR --- quiet > +# To set English as language and Germany as country, use a German keyboard > layout: > +/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/gtk/initrd.gz language=en > country=DE locale=en_US.UTF-8 keymap=de --- quiet > +# To install the MATE desktop: > +/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/gtk/initrd.gz > desktop=mate-desktop --- quiet > +# To install the web-server task: > +/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz > tasksel:tasksel/first=web-server --- > + > + > + > + > + > >Using a DHCP server to specify preconfiguration files > Just applied. Holger -- Holger Wansing PGP-Fingerprint: 496A C6E8 1442 4B34 8508 3529 59F1 87CA 156E B076
Re: "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" needs examples
On 06/16/2020 05:41 AM, Holger Wansing wrote:
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
This is a rewrite of my original post after having received input
directly and indirectly related to my problems.
I wish to have an uncluttered install of Debian 10 with MATE desktop.
It is my understanding that when MATE is selected, the installer begins
with mate-desktop-environment. Reading
[https://packages.debian.org/buster/mate-desktop-environment] indicates
that not installing "suggested" will achieve my *specified* goal.
Selected packages will later be installed using apt-get.
My procedure was:
Copy Buster {10.0} DVD1 ISO to flash drive with dd
When booted chose menu item "Expert" install
Press to bring up installers boot command
"/install.amd/vmlinuz priority=low vga=788
initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz --- "
Append "recommends=false" in 2 trials
Trial 1 - without removing " --- "
Trial 2 - after removing " --- "
Press and answer questions as they appear
What would people think about such addition to the manual:
diff --git a/en/appendix/preseed.xml b/en/appendix/preseed.xml
index d7570d6b3..c11cc240d 100644
--- a/en/appendix/preseed.xml
+++ b/en/appendix/preseed.xml
@@ -570,6 +570,27 @@ always need to specify a value as well: for example,
+
+ Examples of boot prompt preseeding
+
+
+Here are some examples of how the boot prompt might look like
+(you will need to adapt this to your needs; also see .)
+
+
+# To set French as language and France as country:
+/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/gtk/initrd.gz language=fr
country=FR --- quiet
+# To set English as language and Germany as country, use a German keyboard
layout:
+/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/gtk/initrd.gz language=en
country=DE locale=en_US.UTF-8 keymap=de --- quiet
+# To install the MATE desktop:
+/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/gtk/initrd.gz
desktop=mate-desktop --- quiet
+# To install the web-server task:
+/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz
tasksel:tasksel/first=web-server ---
+
+
+
+
+
Using a DHCP server to specify preconfiguration files
YES. If those examples had already been in the text:
1. I would have been reading/re-reading the body of text with
different point-of-view.
2. I might have approached my immediate problem differently.
[I'll do some experiments and create a sub-thread in response
to your post of yesterday. Thanks]
Re: "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" needs examples
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
> This is a rewrite of my original post after having received input
> directly and indirectly related to my problems.
>
> I wish to have an uncluttered install of Debian 10 with MATE desktop.
> It is my understanding that when MATE is selected, the installer begins
> with mate-desktop-environment. Reading
> [https://packages.debian.org/buster/mate-desktop-environment] indicates
> that not installing "suggested" will achieve my *specified* goal.
> Selected packages will later be installed using apt-get.
>
> My procedure was:
> Copy Buster {10.0} DVD1 ISO to flash drive with dd
> When booted chose menu item "Expert" install
> Press to bring up installers boot command
> "/install.amd/vmlinuz priority=low vga=788
>initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz --- "
> Append "recommends=false" in 2 trials
> Trial 1 - without removing " --- "
> Trial 2 - after removing " --- "
> Press and answer questions as they appear
What would people think about such addition to the manual:
diff --git a/en/appendix/preseed.xml b/en/appendix/preseed.xml
index d7570d6b3..c11cc240d 100644
--- a/en/appendix/preseed.xml
+++ b/en/appendix/preseed.xml
@@ -570,6 +570,27 @@ always need to specify a value as well: for example,
+
+ Examples of boot prompt preseeding
+
+
+Here are some examples of how the boot prompt might look like
+(you will need to adapt this to your needs; also see .)
+
+
+# To set French as language and France as country:
+/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/gtk/initrd.gz language=fr
country=FR --- quiet
+# To set English as language and Germany as country, use a German keyboard
layout:
+/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/gtk/initrd.gz language=en
country=DE locale=en_US.UTF-8 keymap=de --- quiet
+# To install the MATE desktop:
+/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/gtk/initrd.gz
desktop=mate-desktop --- quiet
+# To install the web-server task:
+/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz
tasksel:tasksel/first=web-server ---
+
+
+
+
+
Using a DHCP server to specify preconfiguration files
--
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Re: "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" needs examples
Hi,
Holger Wansing wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> > This is a rewrite of my original post after having received input
> > directly and indirectly related to my problems.
> >
> > I wish to have an uncluttered install of Debian 10 with MATE desktop.
> > It is my understanding that when MATE is selected, the installer begins
> > with mate-desktop-environment. Reading
> > [https://packages.debian.org/buster/mate-desktop-environment] indicates
> > that not installing "suggested" will achieve my *specified* goal.
> > Selected packages will later be installed using apt-get.
> >
> > My procedure was:
> > Copy Buster {10.0} DVD1 ISO to flash drive with dd
> > When booted chose menu item "Expert" install
> > Press to bring up installers boot command
> > "/install.amd/vmlinuz priority=low vga=788
> >initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz --- "
> > Append "recommends=false" in 2 trials
> >Trial 1 - without removing " --- "
> >Trial 2 - after removing " --- "
>
> Reading the installation-guide (as already suggested) I don't see any advise
> there to remove something from the commandline. It is only suggested to add
> to the line.
> So that would lead to something like
> "/install.amd/vmlinuz priority=low vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz
> recommends=false --- "
Unless I have overlooked something, "recommends=false" (or its long version
"base-installer/install-recommends") only affects the base system installation.
tasksel for installing the different tasks does not react on this setting.
(This is not unexpected, since the setting is
"base-installer/install-recommends".)
So you will need to only install the task 'standard' within the initial debian
installation and then install the rest (like a minimal MATE) after rebooting
and setting up apt's options accordingly.
Holger
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Re: "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" needs examples
On 06/14/2020 10:21 AM, Holger Wansing wrote: Hi, [snip] If you just want an installation with Mate, I don't understand why you would want to remove the 'recommends' but ... Because MATE with all the recommended packages is too cluttered. It has tools to do a range of tasks that most need done. However the specific selection of tools chosen does not match my individual needs and desires. Remember the "P" in PC stands for *PERSONAL* ;/
Re: "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" needs examples
Hi,
Richard Owlett wrote:
> This is a rewrite of my original post after having received input
> directly and indirectly related to my problems.
>
> I wish to have an uncluttered install of Debian 10 with MATE desktop.
> It is my understanding that when MATE is selected, the installer begins
> with mate-desktop-environment. Reading
> [https://packages.debian.org/buster/mate-desktop-environment] indicates
> that not installing "suggested" will achieve my *specified* goal.
> Selected packages will later be installed using apt-get.
>
> My procedure was:
> Copy Buster {10.0} DVD1 ISO to flash drive with dd
> When booted chose menu item "Expert" install
> Press to bring up installers boot command
> "/install.amd/vmlinuz priority=low vga=788
>initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz --- "
> Append "recommends=false" in 2 trials
> Trial 1 - without removing " --- "
> Trial 2 - after removing " --- "
Reading the installation-guide (as already suggested) I don't see any advise
there to remove something from the commandline. It is only suggested to add
to the line.
So that would lead to something like
"/install.amd/vmlinuz priority=low vga=788 initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz
recommends=false --- "
> Press and answer questions as they appear
>
> The result in both cases was a running system with the *UNWANTED*
> packages fully present and operating.
If you just want an installation with Mate, I don't understand why you would
want to remove the 'recommends' but ...
Holger
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Correcting typo was [Re: "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" needs examples]
On 06/14/2020 05:52 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
This is a rewrite of my original post after having received input
directly and indirectly related to my problems.
I wish to have an uncluttered install of Debian 10 with MATE desktop.
It is my understanding that when MATE is selected, the installer begins
with mate-desktop-environment. Reading
[https://packages.debian.org/buster/mate-desktop-environment] indicates
that not installing "suggested" will achieve my *specified* goal.
That line should read
that not installing "recommended" will achieve my *specified* goal.
Selected packages will later be installed using apt-get.
My procedure was:
Copy Buster {10.0} DVD1 ISO to flash drive with dd
When booted chose menu item "Expert" install
Press to bring up installers boot command
"/install.amd/vmlinuz priority=low vga=788
initrd=/install.amd/initrd.gz --- "
Append "recommends=false" in 2 trials
Trial 1 - without removing " --- "
Trial 2 - after removing " --- "
Press and answer questions as they appear
The result in both cases was a running system with the *UNWANTED*
packages fully present and operating.
To eliminate the possibility of a faulty copy of the Debian 10 iso, I
tried the same with a physical DVD1 of Debian 8.6.
The same unacceptable result.
How do I get what I want.
TIA
Re: "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" needs examples
On 06/14/2020 06:51 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Richard Owlett (2020-06-14 12:52:10) Reading [https://packages.debian.org/buster/mate-desktop-environment] indicates that not installing "suggested" will achieve my *specified* goal. ^ *TYPO* I was 'thinking' *recommended* [...] Append "recommends=false" in 2 trials Suggested and recommended packages are different things. - Jonas
Re: "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" needs examples
Quoting Richard Owlett (2020-06-14 12:52:10) > Reading > [https://packages.debian.org/buster/mate-desktop-environment] indicates > that not installing "suggested" will achieve my *specified* goal. [...] > Append "recommends=false" in 2 trials Suggested and recommended packages are different things. - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private signature.asc Description: signature
