Bug#436159: Serious indexing problems in fsck_hfs (fwd)

2008-05-29 Thread Lars Noodén
Hi, Rogério,

 A good start would be to ask them to have their CVS/Subversion/whatever
 repository revealed and not just snapshots of their software when they
 release a new point release of MacOS X.
 Ok.  Can you also send a link to Apple's snapshots so I can put the
 request into context?
 Sure here they are: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/
 The package name in question is diskdev_cmds (which I renamed to hfsprogs,
 since only part of their package is relevant to GNU/Linux distributions).

Ok.  Below is what I sent in as bug report #5971198.

Regards
-Lars

Currently Apple releases snapshots of Darwin components when it reaches
a new point release of in OS X.

It would be of tremendous help for projects working to maintain
interoperability with Apple tools and products to be able to see the
regular CVS/SVN trees.  Access would speed up development and bug fixing
and contribute to prevention of crash/hang/dataloss, improvement of
security, and better performance.

In particular, I am asking that the diskdev_cmds package be published
more frequently or that the working version be made available to other
projects:

http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.2/diskdev_cmds-421.1/

Allowing access to newer source code for the HFS+ filesystem facilitates
integration of OS X into work environments where it might otherwise not
be present or be remain marginalized.




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Bug#436159: Serious indexing problems in fsck_hfs (fwd)

2008-05-28 Thread Lars Noodén
Rogério Brito wrote:

 Now, you've got me. They seem to ask for a registration and I have no clue
 on how it works. 

 I wish that they were as open as Debian regarding their
 Bug Tracking System.

Me too.  I largely gave up on them last autumn - lack of openness in the
bug tracker, failure to support+foot dragging on Ogg Vorbis, Ogg Theora
and OpenDocument, difficulties mounting other file systems, a small
number of outstanding security concerns, blow-off we're looking into
it answers for 18 months, etc.

I'm eager to see an improvement there.  It's not bad, in fact it's improved
slightly over the years.  However, it's just that it got passed by
Debian and Kubuntu a few years ago.

 Do you have a semi-throw away email addy? Registering for an Apple
 Developer Connection (ADC) is free, but requires a registration.

Just use something like Yahoo or mailinator.  However, even with an
account, I haven't figured out how to book mark a specific bug report.

It'll be good to have some joint file systems.

-Lars



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Bug#436159: Serious indexing problems in fsck_hfs (fwd)

2008-05-28 Thread Rogério Brito
Dear people,

It seems that finally Apple has admitted that their code is not 64-bit
clean (please, see the mail attached to this message).

The nice thing is that they seem to be open about receiving/integrating
patches on their build system. This will alleviate my work (and the work of
those that want to collaborate to get it working under Linux).


Regards, Rogerio.

P.S.: Lars, would it be possible for you to ask the Ubuntu people to
collaborate a bit more? They seem to still have dangerous versions of the
package installed on their repository. At least revision -4 is needed for
the package to work correctly on amd64.

Oh, and some help breaking up the current patches and getting newer
upstream versions (aka, from Apple) in our archive will only benefit all
that need a robust filesystem integrity.

P.S.: Josex, are you still interested in working together in this package?
Breaking up the large patch into smaller, simply focused tasks and
integrating them all via quilt is the way to go, IMVHO.
-- 
Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED],ime.usp}.br : GPG key 1024D/7C2CAEB8
http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito : http://meusite.mackenzie.com.br/rbrito
Projects: algorithms.berlios.de : lame.sf.net : vrms.alioth.debian.org
---BeginMessage---
Please include the line below in follow-up emails for this request.

Follow-up:  31431748

Hello Prof. Rogério Brito,

Our engineers have investigated this issue and believe that you are 
correct about potential issues when building this project 64-bit.  The open 
source code available on our site are mostly snapshots of projects that have 
been built on 32-bit on our platform. As such, no Apple products are vulnerable 
to this issue.  However, we are interested in your patches.  After discussing 
this with the manager of our Open Source program, I believe the best way to 
provide these changes back to Apple would be to file bugs with the diffs in our 
bug tracking system at https://bugreport.apple.com.

Thanks,

Aaron

Apple Product Security team
http://www.apple.com/support/security/
PGP Key ID: 0xB8469E6D
Fingerprint: FD20 40DB F7BC 37B9 6E78 4C3B C800 A2AB B846 9E6D


---End Message---


Bug#436159: Serious indexing problems in fsck_hfs (fwd)

2008-05-28 Thread Lars Noodén
Rogério Brito wrote:
 P.S.: Lars, would it be possible for you to ask the Ubuntu people to
 collaborate a bit more? They seem to still have dangerous versions of the
 package installed on their repository. At least revision -4 is needed for
 the package to work correctly on amd64.

Sure.  Can you point me to release notes regarding revision -4 and what
it addresses/why the earlier ones are problematic?

 Oh, and some help breaking up the current patches and getting newer
 upstream versions (aka, from Apple) in our archive will only benefit all
 that need a robust filesystem integrity

I can't program, but I can yammer.  To whom at Apple should I direct any
yammering? ;)

Regards,
-Lars



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Bug#436159: Serious indexing problems in fsck_hfs (fwd)

2008-05-28 Thread Rogério Brito
On May 28 2008, Lars Noodén wrote:
 Rogério Brito wrote:
  P.S.: Lars, would it be possible for you to ask the Ubuntu people to
  collaborate a bit more? They seem to still have dangerous versions of the
  package installed on their repository. At least revision -4 is needed for
  the package to work correctly on amd64.
 
 Sure.  Can you point me to release notes regarding revision -4 and what
 it addresses/why the earlier ones are problematic?

Sure, here is the changelog:
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/h/hfsprogs/hfsprogs_332.14-4/changelog

Tell them (Ubuntu) to do something like:
dget -x 
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/hfsprogs/hfsprogs_332.14-4.dsc

and compile the program.

  Oh, and some help breaking up the current patches and getting newer
  upstream versions (aka, from Apple) in our archive will only benefit all
  that need a robust filesystem integrity
 
 I can't program, but I can yammer.  To whom at Apple should I direct any
 yammering? ;)

A good start would be to ask them to have their CVS/Subversion/whatever
repository revealed and not just snapshots of their software when they
release a new point release of MacOS X.

The address to complain to would be https://bugreport.apple.com or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED].

 Regards,
 -Lars

Thanks for supporting Free Software. It will only get better for us.


Regards,

-- 
Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED],ime.usp}.br : GPG key 1024D/7C2CAEB8
http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito : http://meusite.mackenzie.com.br/rbrito
Projects: algorithms.berlios.de : lame.sf.net : vrms.alioth.debian.org



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Bug#436159: Serious indexing problems in fsck_hfs (fwd)

2008-05-28 Thread Lars Noodén
Rogério Brito wrote:

 A good start would be to ask them to have their CVS/Subversion/whatever
 repository revealed and not just snapshots of their software when they
 release a new point release of MacOS X.

Ok.  Can you also send a link to Apple's snapshots so I can put the
request into context?

 The address to complain to would be https://bugreport.apple.com or
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Ok.  Do you know of a way to 'deep link' to Apple's bug reports?
Otherwise, 1 people could file the same report and each get a
blow-off answer, like we are looking into it for two years.

Regards,
-Lars



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Bug#436159: Serious indexing problems in fsck_hfs (fwd)

2008-05-28 Thread Lars Noodén
Rogério Brito wrote:
 On May 28 2008, Lars Noodén wrote:
 Rogério Brito wrote:
 P.S.: Lars, would it be possible for you to ask the Ubuntu people to
 collaborate a bit more? They seem to still have dangerous versions of the
 package installed on their repository. At least revision -4 is needed for
 the package to work correctly on amd64.
 ...
 Tell them (Ubuntu) to do something like:
 dget -x 
 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/hfsprogs/hfsprogs_332.14-4.dsc
 
 and compile the program.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hfsprogs/+bug/235471

Ok.  It's in launchpad now.  I'll follow it.



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Bug#436159: Serious indexing problems in fsck_hfs (fwd)

2008-05-28 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi, Lars.

On May 28 2008, Lars Noodén wrote:
 Rogério Brito wrote:
 
  A good start would be to ask them to have their CVS/Subversion/whatever
  repository revealed and not just snapshots of their software when they
  release a new point release of MacOS X.
 
 Ok.  Can you also send a link to Apple's snapshots so I can put the
 request into context?

Sure here they are: http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/

The package name in question is diskdev_cmds (which I renamed to hfsprogs,
since only part of their package is relevant to GNU/Linux distributions).

  The address to complain to would be https://bugreport.apple.com or
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 Ok.  Do you know of a way to 'deep link' to Apple's bug reports?

Now, you've got me. They seem to ask for a registration and I have no clue
on how it works. I wish that they were as open as Debian regarding their
Bug Tracking System.

Do you have a semi-throw away email addy? Registering for an Apple
Developer Connection (ADC) is free, but requires a registration.

That's all that I know.

 Otherwise, 1 people could file the same report and each get a
 blow-off answer, like we are looking into it for two years.

Yes, I understand that.


Regards, Rogério Brito.

-- 
Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED],ime.usp}.br : GPG key 1024D/7C2CAEB8
http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito : http://meusite.mackenzie.com.br/rbrito
Projects: algorithms.berlios.de : lame.sf.net : vrms.alioth.debian.org



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]