Re: wanna-build access for binNMUs

[Michael Stapelberg]

For the record, I generated
https://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/binNMUs-golang.txt and pochu
scheduled them to address the immediate need.

In the long run, pochu mentioned we should have a consumer for lists such
as the above which would automatically schedule the builds. This sidesteps
the wanna-build access question.

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort 
wrote:

> Sorry for the delay,
>
> On 11/02/18 14:28, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Philipp Kern  wrote:
> >
> >> On 02/10/2018 09:26 AM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 20:45:44 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> >>>
>  On 30/01/18 08:54, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> > This would also be very helpful for fixing security issue #888777.
> 
>  You need to talk to the wanna-build team if you want to be able to
> >> schedule
>  binNMUs for your language rebuilds, just like the ocaml and haskell
> >> teams do.
> 
> >>> FWIW I disagree, I think this is something the wanna-build team has
> >>> essentially delegated to release, so getting people on board is a
> shared
> >>> thing between those two teams rather than solely a w-b thing.  It
> >>> happens once every few years though so there isn't really a process to
> >>> vet people.
> >>
> >> So can we have an opinion on the current proposal, which is a single DD
> >> (stapelberg)? As far as I know DSA's ticket is currently blocked on
> this.
> >>
> >
> > nit: there’s no blocked ticket, but rather, once debian-release is okay
> > with the proposal, someone would need to file a ticket on my behalf. See
> my
> > other reply upthread:
> >
> >> Hector Oron pointed out in the Debian RT that the release-team should
> > give their okay before the PostgreSQL account can be created. This should
> > be done by way of the release team filing the Debian RT ticket on my
> > behalf, preferable as an inline signed email.
> >
> > If I understand https://www.debian.org/intro/organization correctly,
> > then pochu@ should be able to make this call. Given that no objections
> have
> > been voiced by anyone involved within the last two weeks since I asked
> for
> > access, may I suggest to go ahead? Thank you!
>
> As I said on IRC: please provide an automated list of required binNMUs,
> like the
> haskell one, so that if at some point you can't handle them for some time,
> others (e.g. me) can easily schedule them.
>
> Emilio
>



-- 
Best regards,
Michael

Re: wanna-build access for binNMUs

[Emilio Pozuelo Monfort]

Sorry for the delay,

On 11/02/18 14:28, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Philipp Kern  wrote:
> 
>> On 02/10/2018 09:26 AM, Julien Cristau wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 20:45:44 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
>>>
 On 30/01/18 08:54, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> This would also be very helpful for fixing security issue #888777.

 You need to talk to the wanna-build team if you want to be able to
>> schedule
 binNMUs for your language rebuilds, just like the ocaml and haskell
>> teams do.

>>> FWIW I disagree, I think this is something the wanna-build team has
>>> essentially delegated to release, so getting people on board is a shared
>>> thing between those two teams rather than solely a w-b thing.  It
>>> happens once every few years though so there isn't really a process to
>>> vet people.
>>
>> So can we have an opinion on the current proposal, which is a single DD
>> (stapelberg)? As far as I know DSA's ticket is currently blocked on this.
>>
> 
> nit: there’s no blocked ticket, but rather, once debian-release is okay
> with the proposal, someone would need to file a ticket on my behalf. See my
> other reply upthread:
> 
>> Hector Oron pointed out in the Debian RT that the release-team should
> give their okay before the PostgreSQL account can be created. This should
> be done by way of the release team filing the Debian RT ticket on my
> behalf, preferable as an inline signed email.
> 
> If I understand https://www.debian.org/intro/organization correctly,
> then pochu@ should be able to make this call. Given that no objections have
> been voiced by anyone involved within the last two weeks since I asked for
> access, may I suggest to go ahead? Thank you!

As I said on IRC: please provide an automated list of required binNMUs, like the
haskell one, so that if at some point you can't handle them for some time,
others (e.g. me) can easily schedule them.

Emilio

Re: wanna-build access for binNMUs

[Michael Stapelberg]

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Philipp Kern  wrote:

> On 02/10/2018 09:26 AM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 20:45:44 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> >
> >> On 30/01/18 08:54, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> >>> This would also be very helpful for fixing security issue #888777.
> >>
> >> You need to talk to the wanna-build team if you want to be able to
> schedule
> >> binNMUs for your language rebuilds, just like the ocaml and haskell
> teams do.
> >>
> > FWIW I disagree, I think this is something the wanna-build team has
> > essentially delegated to release, so getting people on board is a shared
> > thing between those two teams rather than solely a w-b thing.  It
> > happens once every few years though so there isn't really a process to
> > vet people.
>
> So can we have an opinion on the current proposal, which is a single DD
> (stapelberg)? As far as I know DSA's ticket is currently blocked on this.
>

nit: there’s no blocked ticket, but rather, once debian-release is okay
with the proposal, someone would need to file a ticket on my behalf. See my
other reply upthread:

> Hector Oron pointed out in the Debian RT that the release-team should
give their okay before the PostgreSQL account can be created. This should
be done by way of the release team filing the Debian RT ticket on my
behalf, preferable as an inline signed email.

If I understand https://www.debian.org/intro/organization correctly,
then pochu@ should be able to make this call. Given that no objections have
been voiced by anyone involved within the last two weeks since I asked for
access, may I suggest to go ahead? Thank you!


>
> Kind regards
> Philipp Kern
>
>
>


-- 
Best regards,
Michael

Re: wanna-build access for binNMUs

[Philipp Kern]

On 02/10/2018 09:26 AM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 20:45:44 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> 
>> On 30/01/18 08:54, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
>>> This would also be very helpful for fixing security issue #888777.
>>
>> You need to talk to the wanna-build team if you want to be able to schedule
>> binNMUs for your language rebuilds, just like the ocaml and haskell teams do.
>>
> FWIW I disagree, I think this is something the wanna-build team has
> essentially delegated to release, so getting people on board is a shared
> thing between those two teams rather than solely a w-b thing.  It
> happens once every few years though so there isn't really a process to
> vet people.

So can we have an opinion on the current proposal, which is a single DD
(stapelberg)? As far as I know DSA's ticket is currently blocked on this.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern




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Re: wanna-build access for binNMUs

[Emilio Pozuelo Monfort]

On 10/02/18 09:26, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 20:45:44 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> 
>> On 30/01/18 08:54, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
>>> This would also be very helpful for fixing security issue #888777.
>>
>> You need to talk to the wanna-build team if you want to be able to schedule
>> binNMUs for your language rebuilds, just like the ocaml and haskell teams do.
>>
> FWIW I disagree, I think this is something the wanna-build team has
> essentially delegated to release, so getting people on board is a shared
> thing between those two teams rather than solely a w-b thing.  It
> happens once every few years though so there isn't really a process to
> vet people.

Ack. I wasn't around when this last happened, so I didn't quite know the 
procedure.

Cheers,
Emilio

wanna-build access for binNMUs

[Julien Cristau]

On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 20:45:44 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:

> On 30/01/18 08:54, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> > This would also be very helpful for fixing security issue #888777.
> 
> You need to talk to the wanna-build team if you want to be able to schedule
> binNMUs for your language rebuilds, just like the ocaml and haskell teams do.
> 
FWIW I disagree, I think this is something the wanna-build team has
essentially delegated to release, so getting people on board is a shared
thing between those two teams rather than solely a w-b thing.  It
happens once every few years though so there isn't really a process to
vet people.

Cheers,
Julien