Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?
2009/2/8 Daniel Burrows : > Hello list, > > I've been banging my head on this one for a while. > > I have a need to write some code that can manage job control on a > terminal. More specifically, I need to run a single process and stuff > it into the background at will, so that it gets suspended when it tries > to read from the terminal. So, there's a "controller" process and > a "subprocess" process. > > controller --> subprocess > manages You cant send the equivalent of ^z then fg to resume? AFAIK the process will be suspended until you type bg to run the process in the background or fg to bring it back into the foreground. Hope this helps you. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?
S D wrote: Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? I want to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only means repeatedly downloading some black-list file from their servers. Thanks $ uname -a Linux test 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Fri Dec 12 16:48:28 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081202 Iceweasel/2.0.0.19 (Debian-2.0.0.19-0etch1) Consider upgrading Iceweasel to 3.0.6. It' pretty stable now, and doesn't appear to have that problem, and it has quite a few nice features beside. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: 24 bit usb sound on lenny
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:54:41PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Hallo all! > > On switching my usb sound card to 24bit audio, all applications using > the card will crash/segfault: > > $ aplay led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav > Playing WAVE 'led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav' : Signed 16 bit > Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo > Segmentation fault There are many wrinkles and ways of solving problems with Linux audio. At the ALSA level, the 'default' pcm device as provided by modern kernels automatically performs format conversion. Maybe some of the others, too. $ aplay -L provides a list of your system's ALSA pcm sound devices. okay, here's a test with a 24-bit mono file outputing to my 16-bit soundcard. aplay organ_6.wav -D default (plays normally) Now for your system, you should reboot or unplug and replug your USB sound device after changing to 24-bit to ensure the ALSA driver reads the 24-bit configuration. You can also choose to specify in your $HOME/.asoundrc file what the output format to the soundcard should be for a particular device. I find the Ecasound provides an easy way to handle format conversions. $ ecasound -i cd-stereo.wav -f:s24_le,2,44100 -o alsa,hw:0 Ecasound is a swiss-army knife of audio processing, can do many common audio processing tasks. > kaffeine, amarok, xine etc. all just crash. It sounds like a configuration problem, maybe ALSA needs to be told that your USB soundcard is set to 24 bits. > > Trying to record some anaolg input with 24bit also fails: > > > $ arecord -f S24_LE -c 2 -r48000 24-48k-testa.wav > Recording WAVE '24-48k-testa.wav' : Signed 24 bit Little Endian, Rate > 48000 Hz, Stereo > ^CAborted by signal Interrupt... > > appears to behave as expected, but the generated file is finishes at 44 > bit. > > Everything works nice on 16 bit/48 kHz: > > 14:30:43-johan...@e13-v21:/home/audio/wav$ aplay > led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav > Playing WAVE 'led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav' : Signed 16 bit > Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo This suggests that you are 99% there, since your ALSA driver is already taking care of converting the signal from 44100 to 48000 Hz. Good luck with that last 1%. 24 bits will help if you are doing multitrack stuff. In which case you might consider Audacity (friendly GUI), Ardour (total pro) or even Nama (http://ecmd.infogami.com) which I have developed using Ecasound for audio processing. HTH > *Does anyone have 24 bit sound working with debian lenny?* > > FWIW, I have a Terratec phase 26 usb sound card. It features a switch to > change it's audio quality settings for 16 bit/48 kHz, 24/48, 24/96. > > My modprobe settings to load it as card 0: > > $ more /etc/modprobe.d/sound > alias snd-card-0 snd-usb-audio > options snd-usb-audio index=0 > > Any help and pointers to improve my sound experience are well appreciated! > > Thanks, > > Johannes > -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Strange arp problem
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:13:11 +1100 Alex Samad wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:10:43PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > I've posted about this before, but I still have no solution. > > > > I have a machine with an Atheros WiFi card. From lspci: > > > > 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 > > Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01) > > > > >From dmesg: > > > > ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2414 chip found (MAC: 0x79, PHY: 0x45) > > > > The card is supported by the in-kernel ath5k driver; I have previously > > used it with Madwifi. > > > > I frequently see that arp fails on the machine. The card continues to > > function; I can access the internet via my home router, and I can even > > (sometimes) ssh into it from the internet (the router forwards port 22 > > to that machine), but any attempt to connect to it from the local > > wireless network times out, and looking at the other machine's arp > > table indicates that arp is failing (table shows 'incomplete'). > > Manually adding an arp entry with 'arp -s ip_addr mac_addr' fixes the > > problem, at least for a while. What could be causing this? I believe > > that I have experienced this problem even when the card was controlled > > by Madwifi. Could this be a hardware issue? > > Not sure if I can help but. > > > My understanding is, that wireless networks work in 2 modes, one where > each node can see each other and the other is where they can't see each > other. But I believe the ap should have a record of each currently > connected node, maybe you machine is disassociating itself from the > wireless network ? > > The AP should be able to see it at all times Thanks, but I don't think that's it. The problematic machine remains connected to the AP; as I mentioned, it can access the internet fine. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Which programming Language
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Re: Strange arp problem
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:10:43PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > I've posted about this before, but I still have no solution. > > I have a machine with an Atheros WiFi card. From lspci: > > 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 > Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01) > > >From dmesg: > > ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2414 chip found (MAC: 0x79, PHY: 0x45) > > The card is supported by the in-kernel ath5k driver; I have previously > used it with Madwifi. > > I frequently see that arp fails on the machine. The card continues to > function; I can access the internet via my home router, and I can even > (sometimes) ssh into it from the internet (the router forwards port 22 > to that machine), but any attempt to connect to it from the local > wireless network times out, and looking at the other machine's arp > table indicates that arp is failing (table shows 'incomplete'). > Manually adding an arp entry with 'arp -s ip_addr mac_addr' fixes the > problem, at least for a while. What could be causing this? I believe > that I have experienced this problem even when the card was controlled > by Madwifi. Could this be a hardware issue? Not sure if I can help but. My understanding is, that wireless networks work in 2 modes, one where each node can see each other and the other is where they can't see each other. But I believe the ap should have a record of each currently connected node, maybe you machine is disassociating itself from the wireless network ? The AP should be able to see it at all times > > Celejar > -- > mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email > ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- "I try to go for longer runs, but it's tough around here at the White House on the outdoor track. It's sad that I can't run longer. It's one of the saddest things about the presidency. " - George W. Bush interview with Runners World, Aug. 2002 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Which programming Language
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:20:30PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 11:40:29AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 09:39:20AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > > > > I've done a lot in Python. I have a lot of python programs. The new > > > version of python will change the print statement to a print function > > > (among other language changes) which will mean porting old stuff to new. > > > Yuck. > > > > > > > Doug, from what I understand the new version of Python won't replace > > Python 2.x, but instead it will be somewhat of a fork -- there are still > > plans for development of a Python 2.7, as to not break compatibility > > while still allowing for improvements (though, it is suggested that you > > port everything to new) > > Yes, I understand that there will be a substantial overlap period, > however, this means that while I'm maintaining old stuff and writing > new, I have to remember which dialect I'm using. Sort of like having > two different FORTRAN compliers in one shop. > > This is why I'm transitioning to Ada. If I have to port anyway, I may > as well port to a compiled language. Ada was written as a standard long > before the first compiler was done, then the compilers had to meet the > standard. Ada programs are totally portable from one machine to another > (unless, of course, you import a non-Ada function that is not the same > on all machines). Ada is designed to allow for the long-term > maintenance of programs. > > Which is another issue. I still have Fortran77 code in production. > Fortran77 won't change. In 15 years, there may not be a 2.x python > interpreter available (i.e. maintained for security issues). If I stuck > with python, in 15 years I'd still have to remember how to code in 2.x > and 3.x (and 4.x?). In 15 years, Ada95 will still be Ada95. > > Think how long sh scripts have been around. You could take the first sh > script and run it today unmodified. When your software has a long > lifespan, there's a lot to be said for it to be written in a language > with a standard behind it. > > Doug. > > As true as this is, are there any good libraries written for Ada? also, you can just compile your Python code and you won't run into that problem. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?
On Saturday 07 February 2009 22:59:25 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:43:11PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 18:58:13 Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > I've been banging my head on this one for a while. > > > > The source for /bin/dash and /bin/bash are available. You might should > > be able to peruse them and find the correct way to > > suspend/resume/detach/etc. processes. > > Would the screen program (or its sources) be of any help? My first guess would be no. Screen does not multiplex the terminal the same way job control does. In particular, processes in a screen window that is no active that attempt to write to the terminal are *not* suspended (via signal or otherwise). Instead, each screen window is its own "pseudo"-tty, so the processes can write to them while one of them is reflected in the tty attached to screen. (I could be wrong though, I'm not a expert in the source of any of these programs.) -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?
* Michael Wagner 07.02.2009 > * S D 07.02.2009 > > > Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? > > I want to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only > > means repeatedly downloading some black-list file from their servers. > > You can use the "CustomizeGoogle" with which you can customize a few > things more than only the *safebrowsing* feature. I opined the "CustomizeGoogle" Addon from the mozilla website. Michael -- A hacker's interpretation of the 1st & 2nd amendments: They can have my computer, when they pry the gun from my cold dead fingers. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:43:11PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 07 February 2009 18:58:13 Daniel Burrows wrote: > > I've been banging my head on this one for a while. > > The source for /bin/dash and /bin/bash are available. You might should be > able to peruse them and find the correct way to suspend/resume/detach/etc. > processes. Would the screen program (or its sources) be of any help? Doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?
On Saturday 07 February 2009 18:58:13 Daniel Burrows wrote: > I've been banging my head on this one for a while. The source for /bin/dash and /bin/bash are available. You might should be able to peruse them and find the correct way to suspend/resume/detach/etc. processes. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: mount foo.img problem
On Saturday 07 February 2009 16:24:51 Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:28:20PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 13:37:46 Thomas H. George wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: > > > > Could you run "file debxo-awesome.ext3.img" can provide the output? > > > dragon:/data/olpc# file debxo-awesome.ext3.img > > > debxo-awesome.ext3.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, > > > starthead 1, startsector 32, 3848160 sectors dragon:/data/olpc# exit > > It looks like it is a whole-disk image -- the first part of it appears to > > be an MBR. I think you only need to skip 512 bytes... could > > you try: tail -c +513 debxo-awesome.ext3.img | file - > > and see if that reports that it found an ext3 filesystem. > dragon:/data/olpc# tail -c +513 debxo-awesome.ext3.img | file - > /dev/stdin: GRand Unified Bootloader stage1_5 version 3.2, identifier 0x2, > GRUB version 0.97, configuration file \377 dragon:/data/olpc# exit Still probably not the beginning of a ext3 filesystem. The idea to fdisk the image is not bad. You might try: fdisk -l debxo-awesome.ext3.img To attempt to find the beginning of the ext3 filesystem. > Script started on Sat 07 Feb 2009 05:20:59 PM EST > dragon:/data/olpc# mount -o loop.offset=512 -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img ^ The '.' should be a ','. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Which programming Language
On Saturday 07 February 2009 19:20:30 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > This is why I'm transitioning to Ada. > Ada was written as a standard long > before the first compiler was done, then the compilers had to meet the > standard. Ada programs are totally portable from one machine to another > (unless, of course, you import a non-Ada function that is not the same > on all machines). > > I still have Fortran77 code in production. > Fortran77 won't change. > In 15 years, Ada95 will still be Ada95. > > Think how long sh scripts have been around. You could take the first sh > script and run it today unmodified. When your software has a long > lifespan, there's a lot to be said for it to be written in a language > with a standard behind it. Yay! for standards. It's one of the reasons I recommend C, which not only has a backing standard, but also standardized bindings to OS level interfaces. I wish the standard was freely available and under a free license, but the fact that it exists puts it ahead of languages without an established standard. It's good to have guarantees written is technical, but readable prose instead of the "correct" behavior being whatever the implementation did the first time someone complained it changed. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Cloning methods
2009/2/8 Stefan Monnier : >> What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an >> open-source software alternateive for it :P] If you use XFS the xfsdump/xfsrestore programs are very good. Theres also clonezilla which should do the job. Kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?
S D writes: > You probably have Iceweasel version earlier than "Iceweasel/2.0.0.19 > (Debian-2.0.0.19-0etch1)". I remember I used to be able to do that > too. Not anymore. I have 3.0.5. I can change it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Cloning methods
> What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an > open-source software alternateive for it :P] - dump&restore - tar - cpio - rsync -a - cp -a Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?
-- End of message -
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> That's strange, I've just changed mine
> successfully.
You probably have Iceweasel version earlier than "Iceweasel/2.0.0.19
(Debian-2.0.0.19-0etch1)". I remember I used to be able to do that too. Not
anymore.
> You could try editing prefs.js in the iceweasel profile
> directory.
Yes, that should work. I've looked into prefs.js and I actually do have
"safebrowsing" disabled:
user_pref("browser.safebrowsing.enabled", false);
user_pref("browser.safebrowsing.remoteLookups", false);
So the GUI doesn't allow me to *enable* it. That's weird but whatever, I want
it disabled.
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Which programming Language
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:18:16 +0200 Micha Feigin wrote: ... > be written using these (same goes for python BTW). Take for example > wicd-client > and tomboy. Using 15mb real and 215mb shared for wicd-client (python) may be > borderline but 32mb/303mb for tomboy (c#) is a bit extreme. Your shared memory seems high: $ ps axv | grep wicd-client 11343 ?Ss 0:02 16 1002 29081 19536 0.9 python /usr/share/wicd/wicd-client.py 15574 pts/3R+ 0:00 092 3023 720 0.0 grep wicd-client Am I misunderstanding something? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Which programming Language
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 11:40:29AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 09:39:20AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > > I've done a lot in Python. I have a lot of python programs. The new > > version of python will change the print statement to a print function > > (among other language changes) which will mean porting old stuff to new. > > Yuck. > > > > Doug, from what I understand the new version of Python won't replace > Python 2.x, but instead it will be somewhat of a fork -- there are still > plans for development of a Python 2.7, as to not break compatibility > while still allowing for improvements (though, it is suggested that you > port everything to new) Yes, I understand that there will be a substantial overlap period, however, this means that while I'm maintaining old stuff and writing new, I have to remember which dialect I'm using. Sort of like having two different FORTRAN compliers in one shop. This is why I'm transitioning to Ada. If I have to port anyway, I may as well port to a compiled language. Ada was written as a standard long before the first compiler was done, then the compilers had to meet the standard. Ada programs are totally portable from one machine to another (unless, of course, you import a non-Ada function that is not the same on all machines). Ada is designed to allow for the long-term maintenance of programs. Which is another issue. I still have Fortran77 code in production. Fortran77 won't change. In 15 years, there may not be a 2.x python interpreter available (i.e. maintained for security issues). If I stuck with python, in 15 years I'd still have to remember how to code in 2.x and 3.x (and 4.x?). In 15 years, Ada95 will still be Ada95. Think how long sh scripts have been around. You could take the first sh script and run it today unmodified. When your software has a long lifespan, there's a lot to be said for it to be written in a language with a standard behind it. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Strange arp problem
I've posted about this before, but I still have no solution. I have a machine with an Atheros WiFi card. From lspci: 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01) >From dmesg: ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2414 chip found (MAC: 0x79, PHY: 0x45) The card is supported by the in-kernel ath5k driver; I have previously used it with Madwifi. I frequently see that arp fails on the machine. The card continues to function; I can access the internet via my home router, and I can even (sometimes) ssh into it from the internet (the router forwards port 22 to that machine), but any attempt to connect to it from the local wireless network times out, and looking at the other machine's arp table indicates that arp is failing (table shows 'incomplete'). Manually adding an arp entry with 'arp -s ip_addr mac_addr' fixes the problem, at least for a while. What could be causing this? I believe that I have experienced this problem even when the card was controlled by Madwifi. Could this be a hardware issue? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Does anyone understand terminal job control?
Hello list, I've been banging my head on this one for a while. I have a need to write some code that can manage job control on a terminal. More specifically, I need to run a single process and stuff it into the background at will, so that it gets suspended when it tries to read from the terminal. So, there's a "controller" process and a "subprocess" process. controller --> subprocess manages The man-pages and glibc info documentation make this look simple: disable TOSTOP if it's enabled via tc[gs]etattr(), then start the subprocess in a new process group (using setpgid); once it's going, you can put it in the "foreground" or "background" by calling tcsetpgrp() to set the terminal's foreground process group. If you set it to the subprocess, the subprocess will be the foreground group; otherwise, the controller will be the foreground group. Whenever the subprocess is in the background, it will be sent SIGTTIN if it tries to read from the terminal. I have everything working -- except for the very last sentence of that last paragraph. I can see my processes being put into the right process group, and I can see them going into the foreground and the background, e.g.: STAT CMD PID PGID TPGID PPID SID Ss+ ./src/aptitude 26989 26989 26989 26980 26989 S./src/aptitude 26991 26991 26989 26989 26989 S/bin/sh -c /usr/sbin/dpkg-p 27027 26991 26989 26991 26989 S/usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/ 27028 26991 26989 27027 26989 Z[dpkg-preconfigu] 27034 26991 26989 27028 26989 S/bin/sh -e /tmp/lynx-cur.co 27039 26991 26989 27028 26989 Swhiptail --backtitle Packag 27043 26991 26989 27028 26989 and then if I move the background process into the foreground: STAT CMD PID PGID TPGID PPID SID Ss ./src/aptitude 26989 26989 26991 26980 26989 S+ ./src/aptitude 26991 26991 26991 26989 26989 S+ /bin/sh -c /usr/sbin/dpkg-p 27027 26991 26991 26991 26989 S+ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/ 27028 26991 26991 27027 26989 Z+ [dpkg-preconfigu] 27034 26991 26991 27028 26989 S+ /bin/sh -e /tmp/lynx-cur.co 27039 26991 26991 27028 26989 S+ whiptail --backtitle Packag 27043 26991 26991 27028 26989 Note that the background process is not suspended. If I manually suspend the process group with "kill -TTIN -26991", it stops as expected: TAT CMD PID PGID TPGID PPID SID Ss ./src/aptitude 26989 26989 26991 26980 26989 T+ ./src/aptitude 26991 26991 26991 26989 26989 T+ /bin/sh -c /usr/sbin/dpkg-p 27027 26991 26991 26991 26989 T+ /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/sbin/ 27028 26991 26991 27027 26989 Z+ [dpkg-preconfigu] 27034 26991 26991 27028 26989 T+ /bin/sh -e /tmp/lynx-cur.co 27039 26991 26991 27028 26989 T+ whiptail --backtitle Packag 27043 26991 26991 27028 26989 So the signal isn't being blocked or ignored. I can also run programs in the shell (e.g., "links &") and watch them auto-suspend, but the same thing doesn't happen when I start them directly under my controller process. It's not even that they're starting as foreground processes: I can start them without access to the controlling terminal, and they never see a SIGTTIN. Does anyone have a clue what's going on? Hopefully it's as simple as a flag I have to set somewhere... Oh, and for extra fun, this is all happening inside a VTE terminal widget. That shouldn't make a difference (after all, it's what gnome-terminal uses, and TTIN behaved as expected when I tested it there), but who knows, it might be relevant. Thanks, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mount foo.img problem
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:28:20PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> On Saturday 07 February 2009 13:37:46 Thomas H. George wrote: >> > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: >> > > > What must I do to be able to mount this image file? >> > > Could you run "file debxo-awesome.ext3.img" can provide the output? >> > dragon:/data/olpc# file debxo-awesome.ext3.img >> > debxo-awesome.ext3.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, >> > starthead 1, startsector 32, 3848160 sectors dragon:/data/olpc# exit >> >> It looks like it is a whole-disk image -- the first part of it appears to be >> an MBR. You'll need to use some loopback parameters to skip the MBR and >> partition table. I think you only need to skip 512 bytes... could you try: >> tail -c +513 debxo-awesome.ext3.img | file - >> and see if that reports that it found an ext3 filesystem. > > > Script started on Sat 07 Feb 2009 05:14:12 PM EST > dragon:/data/olpc# tail -c +513 debxo-awesome.ext3.img | file - > /dev/stdin: GRand Unified Bootloader stage1_5 version 3.2, identifier 0x2, > GRUB version 0.97, configuration file \377 > dragon:/data/olpc# exit > > Script done on Sat 07 Feb 2009 05:15:09 PM EST > > So I tried > > > Script started on Sat 07 Feb 2009 05:20:59 PM EST > dragon:/data/olpc# mount -o loop.offset=512 -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img > /medi a/sdloop > mount: /data/olpc/debxo-awesome.ext3.img is not a block device (maybe try `-o > loop'?) > dragon:/data/olpc# exit > > which seemed to be what the Debian Reference suggested but I guess this > is not quite right. > > Script done on Sat 07 Feb 2009 05:21:57 PM EST >> >> > The image was meant to be transfered to a USB device but the >> > instructions said that if the device was less than 2 Gb it could be loop >> > mounted as ext3 in order to copy the guts of the image to a smaller USB >> > device. >> >> It can be, but in this case it's not as simple as just using the loop mount >> option, unfortunately. You'll probably need just the additional offset >> option. Once we find the offset, things should be "easy"; although, after >> you >> move the files over, you'll also want to dd the MBR over as well. You could try a slightly more heavy-handed approach: for ((i=0 ; $i < 1 ; i=$i + 1)) ; do mount -o loop,offset=$(($i * 512)) debxo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop && break done You might even be able to use fdisk on the image to get some more information, but I don't know about that. Nye -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mount foo.img problem
Out of town for a week, I'll try again next week. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: totem player
> At 6hrs I had to restart my browser and access the web site to restart > Totem. Is the some kind of time limit setting that I can disable or is > this controlled from the originating site? Some "Internet radio stations" do seem to have timeouts, but I don't know why you would have had to restart your browser. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
totem player
I have spent the day updating my one computer (running m$crap) whilst listening to my favourite station on my Debian computer (which has been up and running since Dec1 without a reboot which is more than I can say about the other OS!!!)). At 6hrs I had to restart my browser and access the web site to restart Totem. Is the some kind of time limit setting that I can disable or is this controlled from the originating site? Thanks John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mount foo.img problem
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:28:20PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 07 February 2009 13:37:46 Thomas H. George wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: > > > > What must I do to be able to mount this image file? > > > Could you run "file debxo-awesome.ext3.img" can provide the output? > > dragon:/data/olpc# file debxo-awesome.ext3.img > > debxo-awesome.ext3.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, > > starthead 1, startsector 32, 3848160 sectors dragon:/data/olpc# exit > > It looks like it is a whole-disk image -- the first part of it appears to be > an MBR. You'll need to use some loopback parameters to skip the MBR and > partition table. I think you only need to skip 512 bytes... could you try: > tail -c +513 debxo-awesome.ext3.img | file - > and see if that reports that it found an ext3 filesystem. Script started on Sat 07 Feb 2009 05:14:12 PM EST dragon:/data/olpc# tail -c +513 debxo-awesome.ext3.img | file - /dev/stdin: GRand Unified Bootloader stage1_5 version 3.2, identifier 0x2, GRUB version 0.97, configuration file \377 dragon:/data/olpc# exit Script done on Sat 07 Feb 2009 05:15:09 PM EST So I tried Script started on Sat 07 Feb 2009 05:20:59 PM EST dragon:/data/olpc# mount -o loop.offset=512 -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img /medi a/sdloop mount: /data/olpc/debxo-awesome.ext3.img is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?) dragon:/data/olpc# exit which seemed to be what the Debian Reference suggested but I guess this is not quite right. Script done on Sat 07 Feb 2009 05:21:57 PM EST > > > The image was meant to be transfered to a USB device but the > > instructions said that if the device was less than 2 Gb it could be loop > > mounted as ext3 in order to copy the guts of the image to a smaller USB > > device. > > It can be, but in this case it's not as simple as just using the loop mount > option, unfortunately. You'll probably need just the additional offset > option. Once we find the offset, things should be "easy"; although, after > you > move the files over, you'll also want to dd the MBR over as well. > -- > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. > b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) > ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' > http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?
* S D 07.02.2009 > Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? > I want to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only > means repeatedly downloading some black-list file from their servers. You can use the "CustomizeGoogle" with which you can customize a few things more than only the *safebrowsing* feature. Hth Michael -- Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mount foo.img problem
On Saturday 07 February 2009 13:37:46 Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: > > > What must I do to be able to mount this image file? > > Could you run "file debxo-awesome.ext3.img" can provide the output? > dragon:/data/olpc# file debxo-awesome.ext3.img > debxo-awesome.ext3.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, > starthead 1, startsector 32, 3848160 sectors dragon:/data/olpc# exit It looks like it is a whole-disk image -- the first part of it appears to be an MBR. You'll need to use some loopback parameters to skip the MBR and partition table. I think you only need to skip 512 bytes... could you try: tail -c +513 debxo-awesome.ext3.img | file - and see if that reports that it found an ext3 filesystem. > The image was meant to be transfered to a USB device but the > instructions said that if the device was less than 2 Gb it could be loop > mounted as ext3 in order to copy the guts of the image to a smaller USB > device. It can be, but in this case it's not as simple as just using the loop mount option, unfortunately. You'll probably need just the additional offset option. Once we find the offset, things should be "easy"; although, after you move the files over, you'll also want to dd the MBR over as well. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: mount foo.img problem
2009/2/8 Thomas H. George : > Script started on Sat 07 Feb 2009 02:26:44 PM EST > dragon:/data/olpc# file debxo-awesome.ext3.img > debxo-awesome.ext3.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, > starthead 1, startsector 32, 3848160 sectors > dragon:/data/olpc# exit > > Script done on Sat 07 Feb 2009 02:27:12 PM EST > > The image was meant to be transfered to a USB device but the > instructions said that if the device was less than 2 Gb it could be loop > mounted as ext3 in order to copy the guts of the image to a smaller USB > device. Try mounting it as ext2, there might be something funny happening with the journal. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Cloning methods
2009/2/8 Nagy Daniel : > Hi, again :) :S > > What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an > open-source software alternateive for it :P] > I mean cloning like in norton ghost, a program that could "leave" bad > blocks behind, when cloning, and not making a 10 GByte output file > [like the partition size is], but just a eg.: a 3 GByte file [because > 3 GByte was used in that partition, all other 7 GByte was free]? > [The main goal is to install os on eg.: 15 computers, but only with > one physically install in the "reality"] > > Thank you! Dump / restore Was a lot less painful than I thought it would be. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?
S D wrote: > --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Jeff D wrote: > >> type in about:config in the address bar ,in filter put in >> browser.safebrowsing.enabled , then click on the line that >> shows up, >> should turn it to false >> > That won't work. The "browser.safebrowsing.enabled" property is LOCKED and > can't be changed from about:config. > That's strange, I've just changed mine successfully. You could try editing prefs.js in the iceweasel profile directory. Be sure to do it while the browser is not running, or the setting will be overwritten when the program closes. -- The more I want to get something done, the less I call it work. -- Richard Bach, "Illusions" Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br http://move.to/hpkb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Jeff D wrote: > > type in about:config in the address bar ,in filter put in > browser.safebrowsing.enabled , then click on the line that > shows up, > should turn it to false That won't work. The "browser.safebrowsing.enabled" property is LOCKED and can't be changed from about:config. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mount foo.img problem
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: > > I have carefullly followed the instructions in man mount and in the > > Debian Reference manual, for example > > > > mount -o loop -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop > > > > or > > > > mount dexo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop -t ext3 -o loop > > Either of those commands are correct. > > > In both cases the mount command exits with a message: > > > > Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev loop0. > > Could mean a few things, but it generally means your image file is either > corrupt or was never ext3 formatted. > > > What must I do to be able to mount this image file? > > Could you run "file debxo-awesome.ext3.img" can provide the output? > -- OK, here it is: Script started on Sat 07 Feb 2009 02:26:44 PM EST dragon:/data/olpc# file debxo-awesome.ext3.img debxo-awesome.ext3.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, starthead 1, startsector 32, 3848160 sectors dragon:/data/olpc# exit Script done on Sat 07 Feb 2009 02:27:12 PM EST The image was meant to be transfered to a USB device but the instructions said that if the device was less than 2 Gb it could be loop mounted as ext3 in order to copy the guts of the image to a smaller USB device. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: iceweasel segfault
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Using a link in the New York Times to the transcript of Flight 1549, Iceweasel segfaults scrolling through the document. http://www.scribd.com/doc/11719666/Tracon-Transcript Anyone verify this? After upgrade of flashplayer no longer segfaults: h...@debian:~$ apt-cache policy flashplayer-mozilla flashplayer-mozilla: Installed: 1:10.0.15.3-0.1 Candidate: 1:10.0.15.3-0.1 Version table: *** 1:10.0.15.3-0.1 0 500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status But I can't scroll the doc. h...@debian:~$ apt-cache policy iceweasel iceweasel: Installed: 3.0.6-1 Candidate: 3.0.6-1 Version table: *** 3.0.6-1 0 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Cloning methods
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 06:05:44PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Nagy Daniel wrote: > > Hi, again :) :S > > > > What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an > > open-source software alternateive for it :P] > > I mean cloning like in norton ghost, a program that could "leave" bad > > blocks behind, when cloning, and not making a 10 GByte output file > > [like the partition size is], but just a eg.: a 3 GByte file [because > > 3 GByte was used in that partition, all other 7 GByte was free]? > > [The main goal is to install os on eg.: 15 computers, but only with > > one physically install in the "reality"] systemimager mondoresue > > > > You may want to take a look at the partimage program. > > > -- > "Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin." > -- Michael O'Donohugh > > Eduardo M KALINOWSKI > edua...@kalinowski.com.br > http://move.to/hpkb > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- The smiling Spring comes in rejoicing, And surly Winter grimly flies. Now crystal clear are the falling waters, And bonnie blue are the sunny skies. Fresh o'er the mountains breaks forth the morning, The ev'ning gilds the oceans's swell: All creatures joy in the sun's returning, And I rejoice in my bonnie Bell. The flowery Spring leads sunny Summer, The yellow Autumn presses near; Then in his turn come gloomy Winter, Till smiling Spring again appear. Thus seasons dancing, life advancing, Old Time and Nature their changes tell; But never ranging, still unchanging, I adore my bonnie Bell. -- Robert Burns, "My Bonnie Bell" signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, S D wrote: > > Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? I want > to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only means repeatedly > downloading some black-list file from their servers. > > Thanks > type in about:config in the address bar ,in filter put in browser.safebrowsing.enabled , then click on the line that shows up, should turn it to false -- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Techno. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Cloning methods
Nagy Daniel wrote: > Hi, again :) :S > > What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an > open-source software alternateive for it :P] > I mean cloning like in norton ghost, a program that could "leave" bad > blocks behind, when cloning, and not making a 10 GByte output file > [like the partition size is], but just a eg.: a 3 GByte file [because > 3 GByte was used in that partition, all other 7 GByte was free]? > [The main goal is to install os on eg.: 15 computers, but only with > one physically install in the "reality"] > You may want to take a look at the partimage program. -- "Jesus may love you, but I think you're garbage wrapped in skin." -- Michael O'Donohugh Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br http://move.to/hpkb -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Which programming Language
Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: HI, There are many and many programming languages (mainly : C,C++,java, Shell, Perl, python, php). which learn and use, in which circonstances use that language instead of the other. In many situations we can use anyone, but which is better. thanks a lot bela __ You may want to read the following article. It compares C, C++, Java, Python, and Perl. http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4402 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Cloning methods
Hi, again :) :S What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an open-source software alternateive for it :P] I mean cloning like in norton ghost, a program that could "leave" bad blocks behind, when cloning, and not making a 10 GByte output file [like the partition size is], but just a eg.: a 3 GByte file [because 3 GByte was used in that partition, all other 7 GByte was free]? [The main goal is to install os on eg.: 15 computers, but only with one physically install in the "reality"] Thank you! regards david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: using modem with phone
On Saturday 07 February 2009 01:04:19 debian-user-digest- requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 09:17:45PM +, Bhasker C V wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I tried to google around but could not even get a match near to what i > > want. In fact i am running short of terminologies to exactly define what > > i want. > > > > What i want is, i want to use the internal modem of a system to work > > as a PSTN gateway so that i can control my telephone when connected to > > my modem. This way, i can make my telephone ring through my software. I > > can re-route my audio in/out to the phone. Is this possible ? does the > > modem protocol support this ? > > A standard modem will not do what you want. Look up Asterisk > (http://www.asterisk.org). I think you will find this software > is what you are looking for, and there are some hardware suggestions > on the site too. > > Pat I do not claim to be an expert. I have written and daily use a kde4 plasma- applet to control a speaker-phone modem (get it a kde-apps.org). Needed this because I do not have a phone-set by the machine. This way, I "do" :-) To make phone ring through software, xringd (available in repositories) will let you do that. I used parts of that code to monitor rings in my applet. To route the audio, besides running cables to the sound card, I do not see how to do this (unless the modem specifically supports such a thing). I wonder if alsa drivers are around special for voice modems. Asterisk is a very large pbx oriented suite but it probably the best developed of any of the telephony programs. Might take a look. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: postgresql postrm script needs work
Jude DaShiell wrote: > Having failed to install postgresql on sid for reasons already discussed > on this list, I ran updatedb then did locate postgresql | less to see [snip] I doubt postgresql maintainers read this. File a bug. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.com C++/Perl developer, Debian Maintainer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
postgresql postrm script needs work
Having failed to install postgresql on sid for reasons already discussed on this list, I ran updatedb then did locate postgresql | less to see what I could find. Not to my surprise, I found all kinds of postgresql cruft littering my system after having done aptitude remove --purge postgresql in all of its suffix variations. When that script fails to do an install, it also fails to clean up after itself too. The exim4 package and firebird packages are also the same in this respect. What I'm wondering about is what happens if a dirty system results as a result of a failed installation and later a good installation happens is it expected under debian standards that the system will be innocent of any old cruft from that failed installation? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?
Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? I want to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only means repeatedly downloading some black-list file from their servers. Thanks $ uname -a Linux test 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Fri Dec 12 16:48:28 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) Gecko/20081202 Iceweasel/2.0.0.19 (Debian-2.0.0.19-0etch1) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: audacious-crossfade
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:09:29 +0100, Florian Ernst wrote: >> But it no longer exist from the official site. Does it ever exist? > > According to the last package maintainer audacious-crossfade is > "impossible to use reliably with audacious 1.5" . . . Thanks a lot Florian for your comprehensive explanation. Just for the record, I really miss the crossfading feature, While looking for solutions, I found another tools, aqualung, which "has the feature of inserting no gaps between adjacent tracks". But it is no where close to crossfading. However, I think I'll keep it to replace audacious, because I just like its simplicity, and its even supporting some "weird" sound formats (that I have) like MOD & Speex. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mount foo.img problem
On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: > I have carefullly followed the instructions in man mount and in the > Debian Reference manual, for example > > mount -o loop -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop > > or > > mount dexo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop -t ext3 -o loop Either of those commands are correct. > In both cases the mount command exits with a message: > > Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev loop0. Could mean a few things, but it generally means your image file is either corrupt or was never ext3 formatted. > What must I do to be able to mount this image file? Could you run "file debxo-awesome.ext3.img" can provide the output? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: mount foo.img problem
Thomas H. George wrote: > I have carefullly followed the instructions in man mount and in the > Debian Reference manual, for example > > mount -o loop -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop > > or > > mount dexo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop -t ext3 -o loop > > In both cases the mount command exits with a message: > > Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev loop0. > > > What must I do to be able to mount this image file? > > Tom > > There are no ext3 filesystem in file dexo-awesome.ext3.img. Maybe no filesystem or filesystem such as ntfs,vfat(fat32) in dexo-awesome.ext3.img. If you would like to create ext3 filesystem on this file, please run mkfs.ext3 dexo-awesome.ext3.img Regards, Ding Honghui -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Which programming Language
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 09:39:20AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > > HI, > > There are many and many programming languages (mainly : C,C++,java, > > Shell, Perl, python, php). which learn and use, in which circonstances > > use that language instead of the other. > > > > In many situations we can use anyone, but which is better. > > If you are running on *NIX, the ability to at least read a sh script is > very helpful. I haven't spent enough time figuring out the syntax of > test (multiple [ with or without spaces); seems too arcane unless you do > it every day. I use sh the way DOS uses .bat files. If its more > complicated, I go to something else. > > I've done a lot in Python. I have a lot of python programs. The new > version of python will change the print statement to a print function > (among other language changes) which will mean porting old stuff to new. > Yuck. > Doug, from what I understand the new version of Python won't replace Python 2.x, but instead it will be somewhat of a fork -- there are still plans for development of a Python 2.7, as to not break compatibility while still allowing for improvements (though, it is suggested that you port everything to new) -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
mount foo.img problem
I have carefullly followed the instructions in man mount and in the Debian Reference manual, for example mount -o loop -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop or mount dexo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop -t ext3 -o loop In both cases the mount command exits with a message: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev loop0. What must I do to be able to mount this image file? Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Which programming Language
On Saturday 07 February 2009 02:50:09 Magnus Therning wrote: > Mitchell Laks wrote: > > Common Lisp! > The only language with an oxymoron for a name ;-) Any serious person > would of course start with Haskell! Woohoo! Going through the "Wizard Book" and doing all the exercises in Haskell instead of MIT Scheme would give you an amazing foundation, but make you hate C/C++ forever. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: mounting dvdrw in latest etch
On 02/07/2009 07:36 AM, lhuizi...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, I am trying to mount my sohw1693s liteon dvd rw drive in etch amd_64. I think I have edited /etc/fstab nearly out of existence and can't remember the original settings that didn't work. I recently did a netinstall of debian amd64. I have a gigabyte intel chipset 945 board with two sata hdd one with win xp and the other with linux on them. I simply use bios to select which drive to boot with. All is fine, installed with kde3.5 and i can even see my usb drive when plugged in. However, I cannot find my dvd rw drive and have no idea of how to set it up for automatic mounting etc (maybe in HAL?). It is an ide drive and i have set the jumper to slave for now as master wasn't working. My fstab is set to the following: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/sda1 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/sda5 noneswapsw 0 0 #/dev/sdc/media/cdrom0 iso9660 user,noauto,ro 0 0 I have commented out the last line out of frustration and thought perhaps i shouldn't have a line in fstab as HAL might take care of this. As a first step, I'd do: # grep LITE /var/log/dmesg -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Supporting World Peace Through Nuclear Pacification -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
24 bit usb sound on lenny
Hallo all! On switching my usb sound card to 24bit audio, all applications using the card will crash/segfault: $ aplay led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav Playing WAVE 'led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo Segmentation fault kaffeine, amarok, xine etc. all just crash. Trying to record some anaolg input with 24bit also fails: $ arecord -f S24_LE -c 2 -r48000 24-48k-testa.wav Recording WAVE '24-48k-testa.wav' : Signed 24 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Stereo ^CAborted by signal Interrupt... appears to behave as expected, but the generated file is finishes at 44 bit. Everything works nice on 16 bit/48 kHz: 14:30:43-johan...@e13-v21:/home/audio/wav$ aplay led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav Playing WAVE 'led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo *Does anyone have 24 bit sound working with debian lenny?* FWIW, I have a Terratec phase 26 usb sound card. It features a switch to change it's audio quality settings for 16 bit/48 kHz, 24/48, 24/96. My modprobe settings to load it as card 0: $ more /etc/modprobe.d/sound alias snd-card-0 snd-usb-audio options snd-usb-audio index=0 Any help and pointers to improve my sound experience are well appreciated! Thanks, Johannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Cannot compile gspca
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 04:18:13AM -0500, Brad Sawatzky wrote: > > The gspca driver is merged into the mainline kernel for 2.6.27 and up. Use > 'make xconfig' to enable it, delete /usr/src/modules/gspca/ if it exists, > then rebuild and install the kernel package. > The gspca drivers included in the kernel do not function. I tried them first and only after it failed did I try the gspca-source. > # See http://moinejf.free.fr/gspca_README.txt In fact I have even tried compiling the stuff from http://linuxtv.org/hg/~jfrancois/gspca as mentioned in the above README. It did not work. I suspect some forgotten steps from my side. I will try again and post back. Thanks for your reply. Regards, -- Sridhar M.A. GPG KeyID : F6A35935 Fingerprint: D172 22C4 7CDC D9CD 62B5 55C1 2A69 D5D8 F6A3 5935 "...Unix, MS-DOS, and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly)." (By Matt Welsh) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Which programming Language
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > HI, > There are many and many programming languages (mainly : C,C++,java, > Shell, Perl, python, php). which learn and use, in which circonstances > use that language instead of the other. > > In many situations we can use anyone, but which is better. If you are running on *NIX, the ability to at least read a sh script is very helpful. I haven't spent enough time figuring out the syntax of test (multiple [ with or without spaces); seems too arcane unless you do it every day. I use sh the way DOS uses .bat files. If its more complicated, I go to something else. I've done a lot in Python. I have a lot of python programs. The new version of python will change the print statement to a print function (among other language changes) which will mean porting old stuff to new. Yuck. If you want to do system programming on *NIX, you'll need C. Even if you use another language, you'll end up using C library functions (importing or whatever) so you'd at least want to understand the syntax examples in the man pages (manpages-dev). If you want to learn for a job, ask some employers. If you want to lean for your self, I'd suggest Ada. Ada can do simple stuff. Ada can do anything that any other language can do. Ada can do OO if you want. There are excellent books available free on-line (www.adahome.com, www.adaic.org, www.adapower.com). Contrary to popular belief, it was not designed by committee. It was chosen by committee after a competition. The US military wanted to reduce the thousands of different languages and dialects used in its software (for everything from mainframe to imbedded) and wanted a single lanugage that could do everything. The winning team started with Pascal (which itself was designed to teach good programming) and tightened it up, extended it, etc. They looked at all the different domains (usages) for the desired language and ensured that it would be efficient (for both the programmer and the machine) in all of them. Compiling is a one-step process. If your source code is in foo.adb $ adamake foo.adb gives you your executable, assuming that you didn't make any errors that would be caught at compile time. One of the design goals of Ada was that errors would get propogated to compile time to reduce the number of run-time errors, but also that logic errors would get propogated to run-time errors rather than have the program produce garbage. There are bindings (add-ons) for GUI, database (sql) interfacing, whatever. The compiler is part of gcc, known as gnat. I have a document (I likely got it from one of the web sites noted above, but I forget) caled "Understanding Programming Languages" by M. Ben-Ari 2006 originally published by John Wiley & Sons. If you can't find it on-line, I could email it and the other docs I have (I could tarball it all up); just contact me off-list. Have fun. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
mounting dvdrw in latest etch
Hi, I am trying to mount my sohw1693s liteon dvd rw drive in etch amd_64. I think I have edited /etc/fstab nearly out of existence and can't remember the original settings that didn't work. I recently did a netinstall of debian amd64. I have a gigabyte intel chipset 945 board with two sata hdd one with win xp and the other with linux on them. I simply use bios to select which drive to boot with. All is fine, installed with kde3.5 and i can even see my usb drive when plugged in. However, I cannot find my dvd rw drive and have no idea of how to set it up for automatic mounting etc (maybe in HAL?). It is an ide drive and i have set the jumper to slave for now as master wasn't working. My fstab is set to the following: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/sda1 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/sda5 noneswapsw 0 0 #/dev/sdc/media/cdrom0 iso9660 user,noauto,ro 0 0 I have commented out the last line out of frustration and thought perhaps i shouldn't have a line in fstab as HAL might take care of this. Any help is accepted with wide open arms. Cheers, Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: umask problem
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Wednesday 04 February 2009 20:55:50 Ding Honghui wrote: >> Bash will not read the profile when in notty mode. >> The /etc/profile and .bash_profile both set the umask to 022, so after >> login, the hostA and hostB any user have same umask. >> The problem occurs in notty mode. > > Perhaps .bashrc then? That should be run for all interactive shells > (including some shells that look interactive, but aren't). Not the .bashrc, any other possible clue? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Which programming Language
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:45:03 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > On Friday 06 February 2009 16:46:13 Nuno Magalhães wrote: > > The fact that it was developed by MS kinda creeps be but it has been > > standardized... > > I understand the distrust of MS, but C# is actually a pretty nice language, > at least on par with Java. > i wouldn't call java nice. It is strict object oriented but sometimes way too strict making some things a real pain to achieve, at times having to pipe about five streams to get what you want. Another issue with java (not sure about how c# works) is that it gets you used not to worry about memory usage and clearing memory, you just let the runtime do the garbage collection, and it can bite you in the ass moving to more hardware related languages. Another issue is that both of them are memory hogs. May not be and issue for single run big applications, but things that need to run constantly shouldn't be written using these (same goes for python BTW). Take for example wicd-client and tomboy. Using 15mb real and 215mb shared for wicd-client (python) may be borderline but 32mb/303mb for tomboy (c#) is a bit extreme. > > Is it "backward-compatible" with C++? > > No. > > > Would you use it > > for cross-platform programming? > > C# only compiles to one platform: CLR (Common Language Runtime). There are > implementations of the CLR on a number of platforms, though. Depends on what cross paltform programing you want to do. For applications such as jabref (java) it works, for things that need to be efficient I would use c/c++ with cross platform libraries (wxWidjets is one I like for gui, boost does a lot of other things, most of the math ones are cross platform) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Term not set
Angus Auld wrote: > > --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Frank McCormick wrote: > >> From: Frank McCormick >> Subject: Re: Term not set >> To: l.glidewell.li...@gmail.com >> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 2:11 PM >> L Glidewell wrote: >>> On Thursday 05 February 2009 20:06:54 Frank McCormick >> wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: > Lately when the terminal is running in >> update-manager installing > packages, it says "Term not set" so >> Dialog won't work. It falls back to > readline. > How can I fix this? Nobody ?? >>> Well, the question isn't completely clear. How do >> you run this application, >>> and in what context do you receive this error message? >> >> Simple. Click on update-manager...if there are no updates >> to be >> installed...click on "check". If there are >> updates, click on "Install". >> When the installation begins I presume update-manager runs >> a terminal, >> because that is where I see the message "Term not >> set" >> >> >> How does the terminal >>> run "in" update-manager? Wouldn't it be >> the other way around? >> >> Update-manager is a GTK program...so it'll run from the >> desktop. >> >> What dialogue >>> isn't working? What do you mean by readline? >> Readline I gather is the default the system uses when >> Dialog isn't >> available. > > This has to do with debconf, I sorted this issue by running > "configure-debian", then choosing subsection "admin", then choose program > "debconf", then choose the interface and priority level you want to use. I > use KDE, so naturally I choose the KDE interface. This is great. Thanks. Never even knew configure-debian existed...but it fixed my problem. Cheers signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Solid DSL gateway for server environment
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:42:39AM +0100, Chris Thompson wrote: > Hi all. > I run two mail and web servers from my house on a DSL line. Until a few > weeks ago I was on cable but a new ISP launched some good SME offers and I > decided to make the switch. And I drop all connections to port 25 from IP addresses, that have a reverse DNS entry like dsl.foo.bar, dynamic.foo.bar, dhcp.foo.bar. There is a 99.999% chance, that a botnet is talking to you. I hope, you are using a smarthost and do not send directly. So long, Aiko -- :wq ✉ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Cannot compile gspca
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
> I have installed linux-image-2.6.28-1-686 from the kernel trunk and the
> corresponding header files (after building linux-kbuild from source).
> Everything works fine except my webcam. The webcam works perfectly under
> the kernel 2.6.26-1-686 from debian/testing.
>
> I have downloaded the gspca-source and when I try to compile, I get the
> following error (tried make as well as m-a) :
[ . . . ]
The gspca driver is merged into the mainline kernel for 2.6.27 and up. Use
'make xconfig' to enable it, delete /usr/src/modules/gspca/ if it exists,
then rebuild and install the kernel package.
There is an API change though[*]. You'll need to install the 'libv4l-0'
compatibility package (backport if you're running etch) and use the
following wrapper:
-- cut here ---
#! /bin/bash
# Needed for gspca in kernel 2.6.27 and up
# See http://moinejf.free.fr/gspca_README.txt
# This requires the libv4l-0 debian package (which contains the compat lib
# below).
exe=`basename "$0"`
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so "/usr/bin/${exe}"
-- cut here ---
Save the script as $HOME/bin/fix_webcam_app and then symlink your webcam
programs to it. For example
% ln -s $HOME/bin/fix_webcam_app $HOME/bin/effectv
% ln -s $HOME/bin/fix_webcam_app $HOME/bin/camstream
or whatever. (The script obviously assumes the original binary lies in
/usr/bin/ and will fail, modify to taste.)
[*] I still run Debian Etch. Maybe everything has been recompiled for the
new API and works out of the box with Lenny? YMMV.
-- Brad
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Re: Which programming Language
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 11:44 -0600, Michael Shuler wrote: > On 02/06/2009 11:25 AM, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > > which is better. > > Similar to: > > what is the best ice cream flavor? Hagen Dazs - Pralines & Cream > what is the best car? Audi TT 3.2 (The new one) frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Which programming Language
Mitchell Laks wrote: > On 18:25 Fri 06 Feb , Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: >> HI, >> There are many and many programming languages (mainly : C,C++,java, >> Shell, Perl, python, php). which learn and use, in which circonstances >> use that language instead of the other. >> >> In many situations we can use anyone, but which is better. > > > > Common Lisp! The only language with an oxymoron for a name ;-) Any serious person would of course start with Haskell! /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus Haskell is an even 'redder' pill than Lisp or Scheme. -- PaulPotts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: No more automatic standby with new controller card
Malte Forkel schrieb: > Hello list, > > after switching to a new controller card, the attached disk is not set > into standby mode anymore as configured in /etc/hdparm.conf. > > I recently installed a Delock 89143 PCI Express to SATA II x2 and PATA > Host Controller > (http://www.delock.com/produkte/gruppen/pci-express/PCI_Express_Controller_Karte_2x_SATA_1x_IDE_89143.html?setLanguage=EN) > that is based on a JMicron JMB363 chip. Currently, there is only a > single IDE disk drive connected to the controller. That drive is a > Samsung SP1614N. > > The PC is running Debian Etch with kernel 2.6.18 and hdparm 6.9. Due to > an entry in /etc/hdparm.conf, the drive should go into standby after 5 > minutes of inactivity. That entry is 'hdparm -S 60 /dev/hde'. But > unfortenately the drive stays idle/inactive. > > This setup worked flawlessly while the drive was connected to a Promise > Ultra133 TX2. Since I replaced that controller by the Delock 89143, the > drive does not automatically enter standby mode anymore. Instead, it > stays in mode inactive/idle. > > Executing 'hdparm -y /dev/hde' by hand successfully puts the drive into > standby mode. > > Any ideas what might be going on? > > Thanks, Malte > > Just for the record: The new controller had assigned the disk to a different device, /dev/hde instead of /dev/hdg. I updated various places accordingly, but forgot about /etc/default/hddtemp. So the hddtemp daemon prevented the disk from ever falling asleep. Stupid me. Lame excuse: Why is the hddtemp configuration stored in /etc/default/hddtemp instead of /etc/hddtemp.conf? Malte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
