Re: user shutdown

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello,


Have you try to play with /etc/shutdown.allow (shutdown(8))

Otherwise, I expected to do what you want from

System->Preferences->Main_Menu

but there is not item corresponding to the `Shutdown Down...' button,
a lest on my Lenny box.

I am not very familiar with the Configuration Editor,
but I would look there as well.

hth,
Jerome

Maria McKinley wrote:

Hello,

I have had a couple of users accidentally shutdown computers, because 
there is a shutdown button under the log off button on the Systems 
dropdown menu. I had thought the default for debian was to disable user 
shutdown (ie. root only), but apparently this is wrong, or has changed. 
How can I disable this menu item? I was able to find instructions on how 
to disable this in the login screen, but not from this menu after you 
have logged in. I'm sure there must be a setting to disable this, but 
can't find it anywhere.


thanks,
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BUG: ... kernel NULL pointer reference ... udevadm timeout

[Tapani Tarvainen]

Any ideas where to look for when freshly-installed (Lenny) machine
freezes during boot with


[   30.755158] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0170
...
udevd-event[1084]: run_program: '/bin/sh' abnormal exit

(here the machine freezes for three minutes)

After the udevadm settle timeout, the events queue contains:

742: /devices/pnp0/00:14"

done(timeout)


After that boot proceeds normally.
This is perfectly repeatable, happens every time.

How can I determine what that "/devices/pnp0/00:14" is?

/dev/.udev/failed contains

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 32 2009-03-22 07:18 
\x2fdevices\x2fpci:00\x2f:00:00.0 -> /devices/pci:00/:00:00.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2009-03-22 07:18 \x2fdevices\x2fplatform\x2ffloppy.0 
-> /devices/platform/floppy.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 2009-03-22 07:18 \x2fdevices\x2fplatform\x2fvesafb.0 
-> /devices/platform/vesafb.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2009-03-22 07:18 \x2fdevices\x2fpnp0\x2f00:11 -> 
/devices/pnp0/00:11
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 2009-03-22 07:18 \x2fdevices\x2fpnp0\x2f00:14 -> 
/devices/pnp0/00:14

but that doesn't help me much.

More details:

This is a fresh Lenny install, uname -a says
Linux seita 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:08:45 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
The hardware is rather ancient (HP Omnibook 4100) but up to now
(running Fedora 3) it's been rock solid.

I've tried removing the removable pieces of hardware, namely floppy
and network card, and disabling acpi, to no avail.

Here's part of dmesg leading to the freeze:

[   30.121338] parport_pc 00:0d: reported by Plug and Play BIOS
[   30.121544] parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
[   30.922576] cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: excluding 0x220-0x22f 0x388-0x38f
[   30.924343] cs: IO port probe 0x3e0-0x4ff: clean.
[   30.925353] cs: IO port probe 0x820-0x8ff: clean.
[   30.926176] cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcf7: clean.
[   30.927712] cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
[   30.929383] cs: IO port probe 0x100-0x3af: excluding 0x220-0x22f 0x388-0x38f
[   30.931120] cs: IO port probe 0x3e0-0x4ff: clean.
[   30.932013] cs: IO port probe 0x820-0x8ff: clean.
[   30.932898] cs: IO port probe 0xc00-0xcf7: clean.
[   30.934438] cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean.
[   31.142734] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0170
[   31.142959] IP: [] pnp_activate_dev+0x3/0x3a
[   31.143152] *pde = 
[   31.143288] Oops:  [#1] SMP
[   31.143461] Modules linked in: snd_cs4232(+) snd_cs4236 snd_opl3_lib 
snd_hwdep snd_cs4236_lib snd_mpu401_uart snd_rawmidi snd_seq_device 
snd_cs4231_lib parport_pc parport pcmcia firmware_class irtty_sir sir_dev 
psmouse irda snd_pcm crc_ccitt snd_timer i2c_piix4 serio_raw yenta_socket 
i2c_core snd soundcore rsrc_nonstatic pcmcia_core snd_page_alloc pcspkr evdev 
ext3 jbd mbcache dm_mirror dm_log dm_snapshot dm_mod ide_disk ata_generic 
libata scsi_mod dock ide_pci_generic piix uhci_hcd floppy ide_core usbcore 
thermal_sys
[   31.144520]
[   31.144520] Pid: 1087, comm: modprobe Not tainted (2.6.26-1-686 #1)
[   31.144520] EIP: 0060:[] EFLAGS: 00010246 CPU: 0
[   31.144520] EIP is at pnp_activate_dev+0x3/0x3a
[   31.144520] EAX:  EBX:  ECX: 0014 EDX: 
[   31.144520] ESI:  EDI: c9c7c600 EBP: c023a981 ESP: c3edfdd8
[   31.144520]  DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
[   31.144520] Process modprobe (pid: 1087, ti=c3ede000 task=c3c10da0 
task.ti=c3ede000)
[   31.144520] Stack:  ca9c23a3 c3c87200  ca9c277d  
c9c7c600 ca9c4680
[   31.144520]c021ab13 c9c7c600  ca9c469c c023a90a c9c7c600 
c9c7c6b8 ca9c469c
[   31.144520]c023a9b8  c035bc40 ca9c469c c023a24b c9c44d7c 
c9c44d80 c9c7c654
[   31.144520] Call Trace:
[   31.144520]  [] snd_cs423x_pnp_init_wss+0xd/0xe1 [snd_cs4232]
[   31.144520]  [] snd_cs4232_pnpbios_detect+0x88/0xe8 [snd_cs4232]
[   31.144520]  [] pnp_device_probe+0x63/0x80
[   31.144520]  [] driver_probe_device+0xb5/0x12c
[   31.144520]  [] __driver_attach+0x37/0x55
[   31.144520]  [] bus_for_each_dev+0x37/0x59
[   31.144520]  [] driver_attach+0x11/0x13
[   31.144520]  [] __driver_attach+0x0/0x55
[   31.144520]  [] bus_add_driver+0x8a/0x1a6
[   31.144520]  [] kset_find_obj+0x20/0x4b
[   31.144520]  [] driver_register+0x6d/0xc1
[   31.144520]  [] alsa_card_cs423x_init+0x27/0x68 [snd_cs4232]
[   31.144520]  [] sys_init_module+0x186c/0x19dc
[   31.144520]  [] seq_open+0x4d/0x6a
[   31.144520]  [] do_page_fault+0x29b/0x5b8
[   31.144520]  [] vma_link+0xa3/0xbd
[   31.144520]  [] __request_region+0x0/0x80
[   31.144520]  [] sysenter_past_esp+0x78/0xb1
[   31.144520]  ===
[   31.144520] Code: 93 9c 00 00 00 52 50 68 49 90 32 c0 e8 08 72 f0 ff b8 f0 
ff ff ff 83 c4 0c eb 09 b8 ed ff ff ff eb 02 31 c0 5b 5e 5f c3 53 31 d2 <83> b8 
70 01 00 00 00 89 c3 75 25 e8 73 ff ff ff ba f0 ff ff ff
[   31.144520] EIP: [] pnp_activate_dev+0x3/0x3a SS:ESP 0068:c3edfdd8
[   31.155461] ---[ end trace

Re: new hidden files

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <20090321141923.go1...@niof.net>, Rick Pasotto wrote:
>This morning rkhunter found three new hidden files:
>
>Warning: Hidden directory found: /etc/.java
>Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.udev
>Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.initramfs
>
>Is this anything to worry about?

The last two are fine.  I don't know about the first.
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user shutdown

[Maria McKinley]

Hello,

I have had a couple of users accidentally shutdown computers, because 
there is a shutdown button under the log off button on the Systems 
dropdown menu. I had thought the default for debian was to disable user 
shutdown (ie. root only), but apparently this is wrong, or has changed. 
How can I disable this menu item? I was able to find instructions on how 
to disable this in the login screen, but not from this menu after you 
have logged in. I'm sure there must be a setting to disable this, but 
can't find it anywhere.


thanks,
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Re: concern about the state of Debian

[ghe]

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Dave Patterson wrote:

> Was it the recent kernel upgrade, or something else, you think? 

Well, this morning's kernel upgrade is what triggered it, but I think
the real cause was something updated earlier, and this was the first
reboot. There are 2 servers, one got the kernel update and the other
didn't. But they both hit the same problem on reboot.

A lot of the talk I found on google was from last fall. The workaround
was posted last night.

It's (almost) for sure something to do with grub 2. It happens after the
MBR is processed and the 'menu' is read from /boot/grub, but before
anything in the root filesystem is read. And the workaround involves
editing the menu data in grub's memory and entering a couple commands in
grub's shell.

I haven't been able to duplicate it yet on a machine on the bench...

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Which timezone does the cron use in Debian?

[Patrik Hasibuan]

Dear my friends

I've the scheduled task in cron to shutdown my debian server at 17:15.

But my debian box does shutdown at 14:00. Lookslike it uses another timezone. 
Because if I do this way:
"
debby:~# date
Sun Mar 22 07:36:47 CIT 2009
"
and the date and time is correct. They're the same as the bios (cmos) clock 
shows.

How can I see which timezone the crond in my Debian-Box uses? And how to set 
the cron should just uses the BIOS (CMOS) clock? I want the cron uses UTC not 
the GMT.

Please tell me.

Thank you very much in advance.


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Fetchmail problem: connection to localhost refused

[johnrchamplin]

Fetchmail, for reasons I can't figure out, has started refusing to download 
mail. An identitical .fetchmailrc works on a different laptop, both running 
uptodate sid.  Here's a sample error message:

2 messages for JohnRChamplin at pop-server.columbus.rr.com (11760 octets).
reading message johnrchamp...@pop-server.columbus.rr.com:1 of 2 (4264 octets
)..fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection
 refused.
fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from johnrchamp...@pop-serv
er.columbus.rr.com and delivering to SMTP host localhost
fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP)

Got clues?

P.S.
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Re: MagmaLinux 9.3 has benn released

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

2009/3/22 Nuno Magalhães 

> >> We are glad to anounce the release of MagmaLinux 9.3
>
> Good for you, there's a list called debian-announce. You could even
> get away with debian-user and debian-news, but what's the point of
> spamming 10+ debian lists to announce this? Several of the lists you
> used are not in english, yet your message is english only. And no
> link, you had to have someone request it. And it's apparently not
> debian-based, it's debian... wtf?
>
> I agree with Nuno. How come you call it 'It is just Debian'? Care to
explain?



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Re: Help! Grub is broken

[Celejar]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:58:13 -0700
Thorny  wrote:

...

> Naturally any of this is opinion on both sides. It isn't really possible
> for me to give data that shows something doesn't exist. And, you have
> no reason to believe me or anyone else but will you please review this
> article by Rick Moen, he makes a cogent argument.
> 
> http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus
> 
> If after reviewing it you still think you are correct, aside from possible
> semantic differences about the definition of virus, cone back and I
> suppose we can try to discuss further or agree to disagree. Otherwise, I

One serious flaw in his article is that he doesn't consider the case of
users who have full passwordless sudo enabled for their normal user
account (some_user ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL).  I know this is not the
safest, most paranoid setup, but I suspect that it's fairly common.
Moen argues that:

"Last, you say, surely sysadmins stupid enough to take dangerous
actions as root must be becoming the norm instead of a rarity, given
Linux's current explosive growth — thus undermining the whole security
model. This, too, is true — but there are powerful forces at work to
educate new sysadmins: The administrative tools, themselves, tend to
stress that the root account is dangerous and should be used minimally
and carefully, as does Linux's new-user documentation. Also, those
sysadmins resistant to learning this message via such avenues
inevitably learn it the hard way, by destroying or crippling their
systems repeatedly — until they learn. In that regard, viruses do not
even stand out from the general likelihood of repeatedly destroying
one's system, until one learns to not do unwise things as root. The
difference between "hostile" executables (such as viruses) and others
is academic, when a root-account user can already shoot off his/her
foot or other vital parts, with one of myriad, brief commands. Put the
other way, the same survival skills by which you, as a novice sysadmin,
will cease destroying your system directly will also, more generally,
dissuade you from doing unwise things as root, thereby incidentally
keeping viruses and their kin off your system.

Or, put a third way, the Linux community would see no real distinction
between novices who (as root) infect their systems (if this should ever
happen to significant numbers of them), and those who accidentally type
some variation on "rm -rf /" (delete all files) while logged in as
root: Both are a result of inexperience and lack of caution. In both
cases, education, attention, and experience are a 100% effective cure."

But this equivalence between insecure systems and those likely to fall
victim to an accidental "rm -rf /" breaks down for the above case,
since accidents become much less likely, but a virus can still do
whatever it wants by prefacing its actions with 'sudo'.

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Re: How to setup a PPPoE Server?

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 07:43:50PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Thanks Johannes,
> 
> Hmmm, now I have searched again the Debian Packages and  it  seems,  the
> "Roaring Penguin PPPoE server software" is not in Debian...
> 
> Do you know why?

Because the description of the package pppoe is lacking.

  http://packages.debian.org/sid/pppoe

As you can see, the source package is rp-pppoe. 

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Re: Streaming Video from a Debian box

[Celejar]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:54:09 -0500
Kent West  wrote:

> Do I understand that there's no pre-packaged Debian solution for
> streaming videos from the Debian/apache box to other clients, similar to
> how YouTube streams videos?

...

> So, what's the solution for setting up my own Youtube-like service on my
> Debian box?

I know very little about this sort of thing, and I've never tried it,
but a quick google indicates that VideoLAN (VLC) has this capability:

http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/streaming-howto-en.html
http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1652

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clamd and freshclam won't run

[John]

I'd appreciate a clue as to what's going on: since today's update
(sid on two IBM laptops), neither clamd nor freshclam will start. The error
message changes according to the directory from which the command
/etc/init.d/clamav-daemon or /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam is
given. Here's a sample:

root@/etc/init.d# /etc/init.d/clamav-daemon restart
Stopping ClamAV daemon: clamd.
Starting ClamAV daemon: clamd /sbin/start-stop-daemon: Unable to chdir() to=
 '/etc/init.d' (No such file or directory)
 failed!

root@/usr/sbin# /etc/init.d/clamav-daemon restart
Stopping ClamAV daemon: clamd.
Starting ClamAV daemon: clamd /sbin/start-stop-daemon: Unable to chdir() to=
 '/usr/sbin' (No such file or directory)
 failed!

I'm stumped. I'd worry less, except that a third laptop, also updated today, 
does NOT show this problem.

Help would be gratefully accepted.

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Re: concern about the state of Debian

[Dave Patterson]

* ghe  [2009-03-21 13:42:04 -0600]:


> All morning :-(

Was it the recent kernel upgrade, or something else, you think? 

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Re: How to install WLAN on Acer 4530

[Stefan Monnier]

> What's wrong with debian packages named madwifi-source and madwifi-tools?

Indeed, I'd just do:

# module-assistant auto-install madwifi

potentially preceded by

# aptitude install module-assistant

if needed,


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Re: Copy data from a failed LVM drive

[Stefan Monnier]

>>> I had a drive failure (SMART errors) on a drive with LVM. I've replaced the
>>> drive, but now need to copy the data from the old drive. How can I do this?
>>> Vgscan only shows the VG of the 'current' drive.
>> Are both drives connected?  If so, have you created different VGs on
>> each drive?
> Yes, both drives are connected and have different VGs.

Hmm... so they have different VGs but `vgscan' only shows one of
the two?
That's odd.  How are the drives connected?  What does "pvscan -vvv" say?

FWIW, here's how I'd ideally do the replacement:
1 - plug in the new drive.  Let's say it appears as /dev/sdb
2 - partition it with `fdisk' so I have 1 large partition /dev/sdb1.
3 - pvcreate /dev/sdb1
4 - vgextend VG /dev/sdb1 (where VG is your old volume group name)
5 - pvmove /dev/sda1 (where /dev/sda1 is the physical volume on the old drive)
6 - vgreduce VG /dev/sda1
7 - pvremove /dev/sda1
8 - remove old drive


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Re: VirtualBox on lenny

[Micha Feigin]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:49:26 +0200
Andrei Popescu  wrote:

> On Tue,24.Feb.09, 06:12:14, Micha Feigin wrote:
>  
> > I tried installing that but for some reason after running windows in a box
> > (which seems to be running rather nicely in initial tests) the color 
> > settings
> > are messed up. Opening lyx for example, it runs using 4 colors and a messed 
> > up
> > pallet. opening windows again makes it run with weird colors when in focus 
> > and
> > correct colors when not in focus.
> 
> I know this is one month old, but, just in case you didn't figure it 
> out, did you install the Guest Additions?
> 

Installed it, of course. It seems solved now (not due to guest additions), not
too heavily tested though, but it may have been a graphics driver issue.

> Regards,
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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Chris Jones]

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 05:52:20PM EDT, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 02:13:23PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:

[..]

> > Shouldn't..
> > 
> > # mount
> > 
> > .. tell you all you need to know?
> > 
> > Or are you referring to something else?
> 
> Well, if you look in /etc/rcS.d, you'll see all the initscripts that get
> run prior to / being mountd rw.  For example, one is setting the system
> clock.  Another is mounting the kernel virt fs.

Food for thought.. Never imagined what I'd been doing all these years
might not work .. or worse, break something, depending on the context.

:-)

In any case I'm more of a believer in prevention.. make sure your
passwords are unforgettable.

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Re: 64 vs 32 lenny

[Mark Allums]

Stefan Monnier wrote:

Well, I guess that is a matter of philosophy.  I did not think a bigmem
kernel was "stock".


AFAIK "stock kernel" in this context means that I did not build my own.
I just "aptitude install linux-image-2.6.28-1-686-bigmem" and go on with
my life.


Also, we might have a discussion of the meaning of the phrase "in
practice".  Personally, my "practice" is to use a 64-bit system.


Well, you said "but in practice, 64-bit is required", so if your
"practice" is to use a 64bit system, then indeed your statement is true,
tho vacuously so.


But I was wrong about it.  How does a bigmem kernel address the full
4 GB?


Via PAE, AFAIK,


In practice, I think most people would agree that the PAE method is 
unsatisfactory.  Okay, change "required" to "cleaner".  64-bit is a much 
"cleaner" implementation.  In my opinion.  It's only important if it 
touches many things, affects how you use it.  If you "just 'aptitude 
install linux-image-2.6.28-1-686-bigmem' and go on with my life", then 
it doesn't affect you in practice, so it's not important.  So I was wrong.


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Re: Laptop

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,20.Mar.09, 22:55:45, Victor Padro wrote:
> 2009/3/20 Andrei Popescu 

> > Unglaublich! Keiner von euch hat auf die deutschsprachige Liste
> > (debian-user-german) hingewiesen.
> >
> isn't this list supposed to be an english only spoken?
> :)
> claro, cualquiera puede decir lo que quiera.

Sorry, shouldn't have revived this thread, I'll let it die now.

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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 02:13:23PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:13:44AM EDT, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 04:57:29PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> > > The method suggested by Doug would still not give you write access,
> > > which you would need in order to change root's password.
> 
> > Well, once you're root (with init=/bin/sh), you remount / rw.  If you
> > have a non-traditional / setup, one possibility is to run each of the
> > initscripts in /etc/rcS.d with the "start" parameter, in numerical
> > order, until / is mounted rw.
> 
> Shouldn't..
> 
> # mount
> 
> .. tell you all you need to know?
> 
> Or are you referring to something else?

Well, if you look in /etc/rcS.d, you'll see all the initscripts that get
run prior to / being mountd rw.  For example, one is setting the system
clock.  Another is mounting the kernel virt fs.

On my particular box, I can probably go ahead and remount / rw from the
sh prompt without any preliminary steps.  However, I don't know what the
OP's box is like.  

Doug.


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Re: Copy data from a failed LVM drive

[M. Lewis]

Stefan Monnier wrote:

I had a drive failure (SMART errors) on a drive with LVM. I've replaced the
drive, but now need to copy the data from the old drive. How can I do this?
Vgscan only shows the VG of the 'current' drive.


Are both drives connected?  If so, have you created different VGs on
each drive?


Stefan


Yes, both drives are connected and have different VGs.

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Re: How to install WLAN on Acer 4530

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

> > Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:57:55 +0800
> > From: rju...@gmail.com
> > Subject: How to install WLAN on Acer 4530
> > 
> > Does somebody know how to install Wifi driver for my Acer 4530?

On 18.03.09 13:37, João Batista Amorim de oliveira Junior wrote:
> Get the package:
> 
> http://madwifi-project.org/ (site the project madwifi)
>  
> just make donwload:
> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/madwifi/madwifi-0.9.4.tar.gz
[...]
> I have a laptop acer 4530 with wireless atheros work. 

What's wrong with debian packages named madwifi-source and madwifi-tools?

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Re: mysql server stopped and i cannot restart

[Matthew Smith]

Quoth harland christofferson at 2009-03-22 02:39...
> For some reason, the mysql server stopped and I cannot restart it. I
> have not upgraded and the machine was running nominally otherwise for
> 120+ days.
...
> Does anyone have suggestions? I've been reading all morning but haven't
> found anything helpful yet.

You might want to look at the MySQL error log - should give you
something more meaningful than the system log.

Note sure of the location of this in a default Debian installation as I
always use my own highly customised LAMP stack.

Look in the MySQL data directory (wherever that might be -
/var/lib/mysql is MySQL AB's own default) and have a look in the log
file there which will be based on your host name with a .err suffix.

The .err file has always got me out of trouble before.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

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Re: Copy data from a failed LVM drive

[Stefan Monnier]

> I had a drive failure (SMART errors) on a drive with LVM. I've replaced the
> drive, but now need to copy the data from the old drive. How can I do this?
> Vgscan only shows the VG of the 'current' drive.

Are both drives connected?  If so, have you created different VGs on
each drive?


Stefan


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Re: unpack and pack initrd

[Stefan Monnier]

> r...@etchrouter:~# gzip -dc < /boot/initrd.img-2.6.25-2-amd64  | cpio -i
[...]
> r...@etchrouter:~# find . -print -depth | cpio -o -H newc 
> >/var/lib/tftpboot/initrd.img
[...]
> + Problem, the new file is that it does not work :-)
> Please someone advise me how to do it correctly?

I don't know which format is used in initrd (you seem to know it's
`newc', so I'll believe you on that one), but the above commands seem to
indicate you forgot to gzip the new initrd image.


Stefan





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Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2

[Stefan Monnier]

> Discussing this has inspired me to put another line on my hobby list, I
> will eventually drag out an old P1 100MHz I have and try loading Lenny on
> it. Or, maybe I shouldn't thank you for that, it's not like I don't
> already have enough projects. 

FWIW, I find that running Lenny on a 64MB machine is bearable but
slowish, and Etch was already "too slow" on a 32MB machine.  So make
sure you have enough RAM.
For very simple uses, it works with less RAM, but as soon as you need to
"apt-get install" or "apt-get upgrade" the memory limit becomes severe.


Stefan


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Copy data from a failed LVM drive

[M. Lewis]

I had a drive failure (SMART errors) on a drive with LVM. I've replaced 
the drive, but now need to copy the data from the old drive. How can I 
do this? Vgscan only shows the VG of the 'current' drive.


Thanks,
Mike

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Bridging with firestarter and dhcp3-server.

[Daryl Styrk]

I'm attempting to bridge wlan0 with eth0.  I've done this successfully
in the past with firestarter and dhcp3-server.  However I'm running into
some issues trying to set this up now.

What I have done in the past is set eth0 static, and enabled internet
connection sharing in firestarter.  Which ends up with the following
configuration files.

cat /etc/network/interfaces

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.1
netmask 255.255.255.0

auto eth0

$ cat /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
# DHCP configuration generated by Firestarter
ddns-update-style interim;
ignore client-updates;

subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
option routers 192.168.0.1;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option domain-name-servers 10.0.1.1;
option ip-forwarding off;
range dynamic-bootp 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.254;
default-lease-time 21600;
max-lease-time 43200;
}

After a restart of networking, firestarter, and dhcp3-server all was
well.  This has worked on 3 separate instances.

However, now after restarting all services and attempting to request an
address on eth0 from another machine it fails with "No working leases in 
persistent database - sleeping."  I can see the interface eth0 here on 
the laptop and while requesting the address the lights are not flashing 
like they usually would which leads me to believe the bridge/dhcp server 
isn't working.


I'm a bit lost where to start, I've looked through the logs for any 
failurs, errors etc.


# grep error /var/log/messages

Mar 21 13:38:16 t61 kernel: [51443.770985] firestarter[13057]: segfault 
at 65726952 ip b72b1452 sp b6965300 error 6 in 
libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.6[b725b000+b4000]
Mar 21 13:53:12 t61 kernel: [52343.228568] firestarter[18697]: segfault 
at 65726952 ip b739c452 sp b5dc0300 error 6 in 
libglib-2.0.so.0.1600.6[b7346000+b4000]
Mar 21 14:07:56 t61 kernel: [  764.930775] firestarter[7807]: segfault 
at 117808 ip b71b0ebc sp b5dff17c error 4 in libc-2.7.so[b7142000+155000]
Mar 21 15:21:03 t61 kernel: [ 3080.508699] firestarter[11594]: segfault 
at 6e657651 ip b71cdf61 sp bfe6fc04 error 4 in libc-2.7.so[b715f000+155000]


I have no idea about segfaults.  I've never encountered one that I was 
aware of.  I have since restarted everything again after finding these 
in the logs to see if it would be reproduced, but they were not.


Daryl


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unpack and pack initrd

[michal krajcirovic]

nice day,
I need to edit the initrd.img, but found that things that seem wrong 
initrd. I do it as follows:


~~
r...@etchrouter:~# md5sum /boot/initrd.img-2.6.25-2-amd64
17e4647d1e75160d474f10385cf63095  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.25-2-amd64

i extract  initrd.img:

r...@etchrouter:~# gzip -dc < /boot/initrd.img-2.6.25-2-amd64  | cpio -i
30459 blocks

i pack it to initrd.img:

r...@etchrouter:~# find . -print -depth | cpio -o -H newc > 
/var/lib/tftpboot/initrd.img
find: warning: you have specified the -depth option after a non-option 
argument -print, but options are not positional (-depth affects tests 
specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please 
specify options before other arguments.

30459 blocks

and md5sum of new file:

r...@etchrouter:~# md5sum /var/lib/tftpboot/initrd.img
e8fed092730e7d3899d19cb2dda22a75  /var/lib/tftpboot/initrd.img
~~

+ Problem, the new file is that it does not work :-)
Please someone advise me how to do it correctly?

Thanks a lot

m.




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Re: 64 vs 32 lenny

[Stefan Monnier]

> It's a different approach taken than the 1:3 gb split. You are paying
> a performance penalty for accessing the higher part of the memory as
> it requires trickery and you will probably see a gain by using a amd64
> kernel (you can keep the 32bit userspace)

It has its advantages and disadvantages, yes.  I haven't noticed
a performance penalty, but I haven't tried to measure it either.  As for
using a 64bit kernel with my 32bit userspace: everytime I tried, I found
out something doesn't work with it.  First it was 32bit ekiga didn't
work with a 64bit video driver; then it was 32bit wpa-supplicant didn't
work with a 64bit wifi driver; last I tried it was uswsusp which failed
for similar reasons.


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Re: 64 vs 32 lenny

[Stefan Monnier]

> Well, I guess that is a matter of philosophy.  I did not think a bigmem
> kernel was "stock".

AFAIK "stock kernel" in this context means that I did not build my own.
I just "aptitude install linux-image-2.6.28-1-686-bigmem" and go on with
my life.

> Also, we might have a discussion of the meaning of the phrase "in
> practice".  Personally, my "practice" is to use a 64-bit system.

Well, you said "but in practice, 64-bit is required", so if your
"practice" is to use a 64bit system, then indeed your statement is true,
tho vacuously so.

> But I was wrong about it.  How does a bigmem kernel address the full
> 4 GB?

Via PAE, AFAIK,


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Re: MagmaLinux 9.3 has benn released

[Nuno Magalhães]

>> We are glad to anounce the release of MagmaLinux 9.3

Good for you, there's a list called debian-announce. You could even
get away with debian-user and debian-news, but what's the point of
spamming 10+ debian lists to announce this? Several of the lists you
used are not in english, yet your message is english only. And no
link, you had to have someone request it. And it's apparently not
debian-based, it's debian... wtf?

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Re: concern about the state of Debian

[ghe]

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>> Oops! While I was trying to get my mail server back online, the Debian
>> MTA was trying to send me mail saying this bug had been closed...
>  
> Long day?

All morning :-(

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Re: concern about the state of Debian

[Dave Patterson]

* ghe  [2009-03-21 13:35:03 -0600]:

 
> Oops! While I was trying to get my mail server back online, the Debian
> MTA was trying to send me mail saying this bug had been closed...
 
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Re: concern about the state of Debian

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ghe wrote:

> The nagios3 package won't uninstall because the prerm shell script has a
> trivial syntax error (missing 'then' after an 'if') that would have been
> detected instantly if it had ever been run. There've been bugs filed
> against this; as part of my own filing, I submitted a fixed script. The
> bug's still open.

Oops! While I was trying to get my mail server back online, the Debian
MTA was trying to send me mail saying this bug had been closed...

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Re: status of backports?

[Jens Van Broeckhoven]

My apologies for the bad cut-and-paste work in my previous post.
I didn't have X installed and removed the wrong parts from aptitude's 
output.


Anyway,
I can still update and install (tmw is just some random game) from 
backports.



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Re: 64 vs 32 lenny

[prad]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:20:16 +0100
Chris  wrote:

> I went ahead and installed the 64 bit version. I'm actually very happy
> at the performance.
>
ya i went to 64 last night too and we're sure that things are working
faster - particularly starting applications! this discussion has been
very enlightening, even though i don't understand some of it yet.

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concern about the state of Debian

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I've been using Debian on my servers, desktops, and laptops for several
years. This morning, there was an update for my main server (lenny
amd64); I ran it and rebooted, like I have hundreds of times before, and
I got to spend 3 hours finding a way around grub's saying, "error:
initrd - unknown command" to get back online.

A few months ago, udev started replacing /dev/tape, the name expected to
be a link to the main tape device, with a directory. The Debian
maintainer said, "mt will need to be fixed, /dev/tape/ is the standard
for Linux system. If you disagree, feel free to discuss this with the
upstream maintainer." Of course I disagree. I replaced the directory and
made my backups work.

The nagios3 package won't uninstall because the prerm shell script has a
trivial syntax error (missing 'then' after an 'if') that would have been
detected instantly if it had ever been run. There've been bugs filed
against this; as part of my own filing, I submitted a fixed script. The
bug's still open.

My servers are still broken -- they wouldn't boot after a power failure.
All google found for me found was people saying "dunno", talk about the
Debian bug report on this, and (finally) a workaround from a Brad
Rogers, I think, that got them to boot from the grub command line.

Debian stable used to be completely reliable. Anybody have any idea
what's going on?

Workaround link:
http://osdir.com/answers/debian/20294-grub-failure-after-recent-dist-upgrade.html

You might want to print this on a piece of paper and hang it on the wall
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Re: status of backports?

[Jens Van Broeckhoven]

Ian Zimmerman wrote:

Jens> Did I miss something?  Why would it be "in trouble"?

i...@matica:~$ httping -t 5 -h 194.8.57.6
PING 194.8.57.6:80 (http://194.8.57.6:80/):
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
^C^C^C^Ctimeout receiving reply from host
--- http://194.8.57.6:80/ ping statistics ---
7 connects, 0 ok, 100.00% failed

  

Oh...
That doesn't seem to work for me either, but their repo is still working:

debian:/home/jens# aptitude install twm
Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd  
De status informatie wordt gelezen... Klaar
Uitgebreide statusinformatie aan het lezen 
Initialiseren van pakketstatussen... Klaar
Lezen van taakbeschrijvingen... Klaar
De volgende NIEUWE pakketten zullen worden geïnstalleerd:

 twm
0 pakketten opgewaardeerd, 1 nieuwe geïnstalleerd, 0 te verwijderen en 
14 niet opwaarderen.

Heb 112kB archieven nodig. Na uitpakken zal 397kB worden gebruikt.
Schrijven van uitgebreide statusinformatie... Klaar
Haal:1 http://ftp.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be lenny/main twm 1:1.0.4-2 [112kB]
112kB opgehaald in 0s (499kB/s)
Selecteren van voorheen niet geselecteerd pakket twm.
(Database inlezen ... 107159 bestanden en mappen geïnstalleerd.)
Uitpakken van twm (uit .../twm_1%3a1.0.4-2_i386.deb) ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for menu ...
Instellen van twm (1:1.0.4-2) ...
Processing triggers for menu ...
Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar   
Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd  
De status informatie wordt gelezen... Klaar
Uitgebreide statusinformatie aan het lezen 
Initialiseren van pakketstatussen... Klaar

Schrijven van uitgebreide statusinformatie... Klaar
Lezen van taakbeschrijvingen... Klaar 


debian:/home/jens# aptitude -t lenny-backports install tmw
Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd  
De status informatie wordt gelezen... Klaar
Uitgebreide statusinformatie aan het lezen 
Initialiseren van pakketstatussen... Klaar
Lezen van taakbeschrijvingen... Klaar
De volgende NIEUWE pakketten zullen worden geïnstalleerd:

 libmikmod2{a} libphysfs-1.0-0{a} libsdl-mixer1.2{a} libsdl-net1.2{a}
 libsmpeg0{a} tmw tmw-data{a} tmw-music{a}
0 pakketten opgewaardeerd, 8 nieuwe geïnstalleerd, 0 te verwijderen en 
24 niet opwaarderen.

Heb 19,8MB archieven nodig. Na uitpakken zal 22,1MB worden gebruikt.
Wilt u verder gaan? [Y/n/?] y
Schrijven van uitgebreide statusinformatie... Klaar



Haal:6 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main tmw-data 
0.0.28.1-1~bpo50+1 [1126kB]
Haal:7 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main tmw 
0.0.28.1-1~bpo50+1 [429kB]
Haal:8 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main tmw-music 
0.2-2~bpo50+1 [17,9MB]
19,8MB opgehaald in 57s 
(341kB/s)  




Instellen van tmw-data (0.0.28.1-1~bpo50+1) ...
Instellen van tmw (0.0.28.1-1~bpo50+1) ...
Instellen van tmw-music (0.2-2~bpo50+1) ...



Lezen van taakbeschrijvingen... Klaar 


debian:/home/jens#

Jens.


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Re: status of backports?

[Ian Zimmerman]

Jens> Did I miss something?  Why would it be "in trouble"?

i...@matica:~$ httping -t 5 -h 194.8.57.6
PING 194.8.57.6:80 (http://194.8.57.6:80/):
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
timeout receiving reply from host
^C^C^C^Ctimeout receiving reply from host
--- http://194.8.57.6:80/ ping statistics ---
7 connects, 0 ok, 100.00% failed

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Re: kde, dual monitor, maximize windows to the current monitor

[Dancing Fingers]

On Mar 21, 1:10 pm, Emanoil Kotsev  wrote:
> Antonio Diaz wrote:
> >    Sorry, now I configured my client not to post in html anymore.
>
> >    The xinerama option is off.  I have also been posting to the KDE
> > forum but I don't achieve to get it working. The point is that I haven't
> > changed anything of my "xorg" configuration file. I just upgraded my
> > system using the "safe-upgrade" option. So far, whenever I maximized a
> > window it just span to one monitor and it was great. Now, it seems to be
> > changed in KDE, because the xorg configuration file is exactly the same.
> > What's more, I installed XFCE4 to do some additional checks and it also
> > works fine there.
>
> >    I've read that it is necessary to get this behavior that the software
> > has been compiled using the xinerama flag. Do you know if the latest KDE
> > package has been compiled using this flag?
>
> Hello, do all the list member one last favor and don't top post.
>
> I had this issue with xinerama. It may depand on the card and driver you are
> using (ati and nvidia must be configured using their config tools)
>
> may be your xinerama configuration is for the local user, but I'ld bet it's
> because you're using ati or nvidia
>
> else I don't have anything in mind, that could help you.
>
> regards
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Do you have an ATI card?  My experience with the linux driver from
ati.amd.com is generally better than xorg out-of-the-box for dual
monitors.  Just remember to use aticoncfig, aticonfig -h really helps
with available options.

Good luck.
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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Chris Jones]

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:13:44AM EDT, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 04:57:29PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> > The method suggested by Doug would still not give you write access,
> > which you would need in order to change root's password.

> Well, once you're root (with init=/bin/sh), you remount / rw.  If you
> have a non-traditional / setup, one possibility is to run each of the
> initscripts in /etc/rcS.d with the "start" parameter, in numerical
> order, until / is mounted rw.

Shouldn't..

# mount

.. tell you all you need to know?

Or are you referring to something else?

CJ


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Re: status of backports?

[Jens Van Broeckhoven]

Ian Zimmerman wrote:

Is it just me, or is backports.org in trouble?

  

Did I miss something?
Why would it be "in trouble"?

Their website seems to be down (atm) but it's all still working for me.

Jens.


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Re: kde, dual monitor, maximize windows to the current monitor

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Antonio Diaz wrote:

>Sorry, now I configured my client not to post in html anymore.
> 
>The xinerama option is off.  I have also been posting to the KDE
> forum but I don't achieve to get it working. The point is that I haven't
> changed anything of my "xorg" configuration file. I just upgraded my
> system using the "safe-upgrade" option. So far, whenever I maximized a
> window it just span to one monitor and it was great. Now, it seems to be
> changed in KDE, because the xorg configuration file is exactly the same.
> What's more, I installed XFCE4 to do some additional checks and it also
> works fine there.
> 
>I've read that it is necessary to get this behavior that the software
> has been compiled using the xinerama flag. Do you know if the latest KDE
> package has been compiled using this flag?
> 
> 

Hello, do all the list member one last favor and don't top post.

I had this issue with xinerama. It may depand on the card and driver you are
using (ati and nvidia must be configured using their config tools)

may be your xinerama configuration is for the local user, but I'ld bet it's
because you're using ati or nvidia

else I don't have anything in mind, that could help you.

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Re: External USB HD showing up late in /dev

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Davide Mancusi wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:31:50 +0100
> Emanoil Kotsev  wrote:
>> Upto 2.6.26 I know there is a delay_use option for usb_storage.
>> It's set to 5sec by default. I didn't look for such an option in
>> 2.6.28, but as delay_use is doing nothing I assume it was either
>> removed or replaced.
>> 
>> What you describe sounds like this default is working for you.
>> 
>> Are you using 2.6.26 or similar.
>> 
>> try adding following somehwere in your /etc/modprobe.d/ files
>> 
>> options usb-storage delay_use=0
> 
> Hi Emanoil,
> 
> Yes, I'm using 2.6.26. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think
> usb-storage must be loaded from the initrd image, since filesystems are
> checked before / is mounted. If that's the case, I don't know how to
> pass it the delay_use parameter.

I don't remember the exact syntax. I think it was something like
usb_storage.delay_use=0 but rootdalay does the same. you can set it to 6 or
7 if you are unpatient.

> 
> For the moment, I have added a rootdelay=10 option to the
> kernel boot line, but I will try 2.6.28 as soon as it becomes available
> in sid. Thank you all for the feedback.
> 

It's not working in 2.6.28 because the delay_use option vanished I guess. So
may be you can stick to rootdelay

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Re: any tool to produce a report of bad sectors of my harddisk?

[Daniel Lannstrom]

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:23:26PM -0700, Jeff D wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, 明覺 wrote:
> 
> > As my machine crashed 2 times in the last 10 days, both caused by file
> > system issues, so I want to get a report of my harddisk to know
> > whether my harddisk is really in a very bad situation.(though
> > currently my harddisk works fine, but I'm afraid it will crash in a
> > few days.) What tool can tell me the situation of my harddisk? thanks.
> >
> >
> 
> badblocks should help you out a little with this, but I'd start looking
> into making sure you have everything backed up and get a new disk as it
> sounds like the one you have is on the way out.
> 
> Jeff

If the disk's internal block relocation scheme lets bad blocks through
to badblocks(8) then the disk is already really badly damaged. The disk
reports a relocation count through smart. See previous reply for how to
access this information. However your error does sound like something is
physically wrong with the disk.


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Re: screen multidisplay with terminals resized

[green]

green wrote at 2009-03-07 13:36 -0700:
> Kelly Clowers wrote at 2009-02-28_09:19 -0700:
> > As for the actual problem of resized terms (especially within screen),
> > I unfortunately don't know of a good solution. You could try on the
> > awesome mailing list or IRC.
> 
> Yeah, I will have to try the awesome mailing list and perhaps the screen list 
> too.
> 
> Thanks for the comments; perhaps I can find a solution in time.

I upgraded to awesome 3.2-1 now and though I still have the problem sometimes, 
it seems to be less often than before...

Just so it can be Googled, I had a problem with awesome
 E: awesome: main:428: cannot open display
that was caused by having an empty ~/.config/awesome/rc.lua file (only a 
comment for reference) which didn't break 2.3.3-1 but did the 3.2 versions 
(probably because of switching to lua for config).


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mysql server stopped and i cannot restart

[harland christofferson]

I am running  2.6.18-5-amd64 

For some reason, the mysql server stopped and I cannot restart it. I have not 
upgraded and the machine was running nominally otherwise for 120+ days.

$cat /var/log/messages | grep mysql

Mar 21 12:04:57 localhost mysqld_safe[7775]: started
Mar 21 12:04:57 localhost mysqld[7778]: ^G/usr/sbin/mysqld: File 
'/var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.index' not found (Errcode: 13)
Mar 21 12:04:57 localhost mysqld[7778]: 090321 12:04:57 [ERROR] Aborting
Mar 21 12:04:57 localhost mysqld[7778]:
Mar 21 12:04:57 localhost mysqld[7778]: 090321 12:04:57 [Note] 
/usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete
Mar 21 12:04:57 localhost mysqld[7778]:
Mar 21 12:04:57 localhost mysqld_safe[7780]: ended
Mar 21 12:05:12 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[7915]: 0 processes alive and 
'/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in
Mar 21 12:05:12 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[7915]: ^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin: 
connect to server at 'localhost' failed
Mar 21 12:05:12 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[7915]: error: 'Can't connect to 
local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
Mar 21 12:05:12 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[7915]: Check that mysqld is running 
and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
Mar 21 12:05:12 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[7915]:


I created a /var/log/mysql/mysql-bin.index file and gave ownership mysql:mysql. 
I have no idea if this previously existed or not, or, what information should 
be in this file.

Does anyone have suggestions? I've been reading all morning but haven't found 
anything helpful yet.

Harland

status of backports?

[Ian Zimmerman]

Is it just me, or is backports.org in trouble?

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Re: [long] UML hangs

[Angelin Lalev]

SOLVED! I forgot to do mkswap on the prizm.swapfs. Now everything works fine.


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Streaming Video from a Debian box

[Kent West]

Do I understand that there's no pre-packaged Debian solution for
streaming videos from the Debian/apache box to other clients, similar to
how YouTube streams videos?

I found Icecast, but the official site indicated it's an audio streamer
only, although I saw a reference or two elsewhere about it possibly
streaming theora files. (Which would work, if I can convert my
Mac-generated .mp4 file into theora. (I only used the Mac for its iMovie
app; openmovieeditor crashed on me, and seemed ... "weak".))

I also found Apple's Darwin, but that just seems .., tainted ,..
somehow, and I'm not sure it would work anyway.

So, what's the solution for setting up my own Youtube-like service on my
Debian box?

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[long] UML hangs

[Angelin Lalev]

Greetings,

I'm experimenting with UML on Debian 5.0. In the virtual machine I run
debian 5.0 too.
I managed to get it to work. Well, sort of, because after 1-2 minutes
after I log on with
ssh, the whole virtual machine hangs. I need help. I have appended
some details below.

I start the whole thing with:

# screen -d -m -S prizm su uml -c "linux root=/dev/ubda
ubd0=/images/prizm.rootfs ubd1=/images/prizm.swapfs mem=128M con0=pty
eth0=tuntap,,,192.168.1.6 umid=prizm"


# ls -la /images
...
-rw-r--r--  1 uml  uml-net 17338204160 2009-03-21 16:04 prizm.rootfs
-rw-r--r--  1 uml  uml-net  4294967296 2009-03-19 19:22 prizm.swapfs
...

(prizm.rootfs is "sparse", filesystem is ext3fs)




#cat /mnt/uml/var/log/dmesg  (after the crash, the rootfs
image is temporary mounted on /mnt/uml)
Linux version 2.6.26 (2.6.26) (r...@tadamune) (gcc version 4.3.1
(Debian 4.3.1-8) ) #2 Sat Aug 9 19:24:51 JST 2008
On node 0 totalpages: 35782
 Normal zone: 280 pages used for memmap
 Normal zone: 0 pages reserved
 Normal zone: 35502 pages, LIFO batch:7
 Movable zone: 0 pages used for memmap
Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 35502
Kernel command line: root=/dev/ubda ubd0=/images/prizm.rootfs
ubd1=/images/prizm.swapfs mem=128M con=/dev/tty8
eth0=tuntap,,,192.168.1.6
PID hash table entries: 1024 (order: 10, 4096 bytes)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Memory: 124884k available
SLUB: Genslabs=12, HWalign=128, Order=0-3, MinObjects=0, CPUs=1, Nodes=1
Calibrating delay loop... 3814.19 BogoMIPS (lpj=19070976)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
Checking for host processor cmov support...Yes
Checking that host ptys support output SIGIO...Yes
Checking that host ptys support SIGIO on close...No, enabling workaround
net_namespace: 652 bytes
Using 2.6 host AIO
NET: Registered protocol family 16
NET: Registered protocol family 2
Switched to high resolution mode on CPU 0
IP route cache hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192 bind 8192)
TCP reno registered
NET: Registered protocol family 1
mconsole (version 2) initialized on /home/uml/.uml/prizm/mconsole
Checking host MADV_REMOVE support...OK
Mapper v0.1
mmapper_init - find_iomem failed
UML Watchdog Timer
Host TLS support detected
Detected host type: i386 (GDT indexes 6 to 9)
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
JFS: nTxBlock = 976, nTxLock = 7814
SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, realtime, large block numbers,
no debug enabled
SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem
msgmni has been set to 244
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered (default)
SoftDog: cannot register miscdev on minor=130 (err=-16)
TCP cubic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Initialized stdio console driver
parse_chan_pair failed for device 0 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 1 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 2 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 3 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 4 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 5 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 6 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 7 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 8 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 9 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 10 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 11 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 12 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 13 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 14 : No match for configured backends
parse_chan_pair failed for device 15 : No match for configured backends
Console initialized on /dev/tty0
console [tty0] enabled
Initializing software serial port version 1
console [mc-1] enabled
 ubda: unknown partition table
 ubdb: unknown partition table
Choosing a random ethernet address for device eth0
Netdevice 0 (7e:21:a3:59:c5:9d) : <6>TUN/TAP backend - IP = 192.168.1.6
registered taskstats version 1
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly.
Failed to open console 0, err = -19
Warning: unable to open an initial console.
Failed to open console 0, err = -19
Failed to open console 0, err = -19
Failed to open console 0, err = -19
Unable to find swap-space signature
EXT3 FS on ubda, internal journal
Unable to find sw

Re: MagmaLinux 9.3 has benn released

[Daryl Styrk]

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

Cavit Cahit VURAL   said:

We are glad to anounce the release of MagmaLinux 9.3


A thought: maybe a link would be of assistance...

Cybe R. Wizard



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new hidden files

[Rick Pasotto]

This morning rkhunter found three new hidden files:

Warning: Hidden directory found: /etc/.java
Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.udev
Warning: Hidden directory found: /dev/.initramfs

Is this anything to worry about?

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Re: MagmaLinux 9.3 has benn released

[Cybe R. Wizard]

Cavit Cahit VURAL   said:
> We are glad to anounce the release of MagmaLinux 9.3

A thought: maybe a link would be of assistance...

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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Thorny]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:30:35 +, Lisi Reisz posted:

> On Saturday 21 March 2009 10:21:24 Thorny wrote:
>> If I remember correctly, Sarge security support ends at the end of
>> March, this year.
> 
> They announced that it had ended last year.  As I understand it, they took
> the repositories down this year and archived them.
> 

Yes, you are correct, I typed "this" instead of "last".



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Re: 64 vs 32 lenny

[Chris]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:22:58 +
Roger Leigh  wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 06:47:56PM -0500, Chris wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 03:50:50PM -0700, prad wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > i am running the 32bit version of lenny.
> > 
> > Interesting... If one has 32-bit installed, is there some sort of
> > upgrade / overwrite to the 64-bit version?
> 
> At present, i386 and amd64 are basically completely separate
> architectures.  This means you'll need to install amd64 from
> scratch, either dual-booting with or overwriting your existing
> i386 installation.
> 
> In the future, with multiarch, things might get a bit more
> flexible.
> 
> Since I built a new system (Core2 quad) which is a amd64 chip,
> there really wasn't any benefit to not using a 64 bit operating
> system, so I just installed amd64 Lenny on it.  If you really
> need to run 32 bit programs, you can install compatibility
> libraries or run a virtual 32bit i386 system in a chroot
> (check out my schroot package for an easy way to do that).
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Roger
> 

I went ahead and installed the 64 bit version. I'm actually very happy
at the performance. 

I see the difference while running Amarok, then loading up some pages
within IceW along with pulling in email and I don't get the audio
"studder" I did under the 32 bit version.

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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 04:57:29PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 20 March 2009 13:50:27 Jeffrey Cao wrote:
> > On 2009-03-20, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > > On Friday 20 March 2009 09:01:17 Sudev Barar wrote:
> > >> 2009/3/20 Jeffrey Cao :
 
> The method suggested by Doug would still not give you write access, which you 
> would need in order to change root's password.

Well, once you're root (with init=/bin/sh), you remount / rw.  If you
have a non-traditional / setup, one possibility is to run each of the
initscripts in /etc/rcS.d with the "start" parameter, in numerical
order, until / is mounted rw.


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MagmaLinux 9.3 has benn released

[Cavit Cahit VURAL]

We are glad to anounce the release of MagmaLinux 9.3


Magmalinux is / provides :

Prebuilt ISOs in 77 Languages (English, French, German, Italian,
Spanish, Russian, Turkish, Danish, Portuquese , ...)

Graphical and Very Simplified Installation

4 different Editions : OFFICE , HOME (OFFICE + games) , SERVER and DEVELOPER

Two architectures : 32 bit ( for OLD computers ) , 64 bit ( for NEW
computers )

New version every 2 months ( 9.3, 9.5, 9.7, ...)

It's pure Debian.





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different version on mirror

[Rick Pasotto]

This seems backwards to me:

apt-cache policy clive 
clive:
  Installed: 1.0.2-1
  Candidate: 2.1.6-1
  Version table:
 2.1.6-1 0
990 ftp://debian.uchicago.edu testing/main Packages
200 ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages
 *** 1.0.2-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Why would a package version be in 'testing' on the mirror yet still in
'unstable' on the main site?

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Re: Why is MythTV not in Debian?

[Paul van der Vlis]

Christofer C. Bell schreef:
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Paul van der Vlis  > wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Why is MythTV only in debian-multimedia? It has a GPL license.
> 
> What is good way to find out why a package is not in Debian main?
> I already searched debian-legal.
> 
> 
> Assuming that some piece of software is DFSG-Free, the only reason it
> would not be included is because no one has stepped up to maintain a
> package for it.  Again, assuming it's DSFG-Free, there would be no
> obstacle to it being a part of Debian other than lack of a maintainer.


from: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/163269 :
-
I'm a DD and would be happy to help out in this regard - I spoke to Matt
a while ago about the reasons behind not adding it to debian proper, and
as you say, it was down to licensing/legal issues.
-

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Re: kde, dual monitor, maximize windows to the current monitor

[Antonio Diaz]

   According to the following post, it seems to be a bug related to the 
latest kwin package:


http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2009/03/msg00139.html

   There is something broken with xinerama.

   Regards,



Antonio Diaz wrote:

  Sorry, now I configured my client not to post in html anymore.

  The xinerama option is off.  I have also been posting to the KDE
forum but I don't achieve to get it working. The point is that I haven't
changed anything of my "xorg" configuration file. I just upgraded my
system using the "safe-upgrade" option. So far, whenever I maximized a
window it just span to one monitor and it was great. Now, it seems to be
changed in KDE, because the xorg configuration file is exactly the same.
What's more, I installed XFCE4 to do some additional checks and it also
works fine there.

  I've read that it is necessary to get this behavior that the software
has been compiled using the xinerama flag. Do you know if the latest KDE
package has been compiled using this flag?


Emanoil Kotsev wrote:

Antonio Diaz wrote:
yes it's really odd to post in html

what you write sounds like you've xinerama enabled

check this
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Re: External USB HD showing up late in /dev

[Davide Mancusi]

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:31:50 +0100
Emanoil Kotsev  wrote:
> Upto 2.6.26 I know there is a delay_use option for usb_storage.
> It's set to 5sec by default. I didn't look for such an option in
> 2.6.28, but as delay_use is doing nothing I assume it was either
> removed or replaced.
> 
> What you describe sounds like this default is working for you.
> 
> Are you using 2.6.26 or similar.
> 
> try adding following somehwere in your /etc/modprobe.d/ files
> 
> options usb-storage delay_use=0

Hi Emanoil,

Yes, I'm using 2.6.26. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think
usb-storage must be loaded from the initrd image, since filesystems are
checked before / is mounted. If that's the case, I don't know how to
pass it the delay_use parameter.

For the moment, I have added a rootdelay=10 option to the
kernel boot line, but I will try 2.6.28 as soon as it becomes available
in sid. Thank you all for the feedback.

Cheers,
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Re: Why is MythTV not in Debian?

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:18 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Why is MythTV only in debian-multimedia? It has a GPL license.
>
> What is good way to find out why a package is not in Debian main?
> I already searched debian-legal.
>

Assuming that some piece of software is DFSG-Free, the only reason it would
not be included is because no one has stepped up to maintain a package for
it.  Again, assuming it's DSFG-Free, there would be no obstacle to it being
a part of Debian other than lack of a maintainer.

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Re: Update Applet not working

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Patrick Wiseman  wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:10 AM, JoeHill  wrote:
>>
>> All of a sudden-like, my update applet doesn't work properly. If I give it a
>> click, I am asked for the root pass as usual, but then nothing happens.
>>
>> Nothing.
>
> Open a root terminal and run 'update-manager' and I'll bet you'll see
> a GTK authorization error.  My workaround until it's fixed is to use
> the applet just to tell me when there are updates available and then
> to run aptitude!  (I realize that's totally unsatisfactory!)

After a recent upgrade, it's working again.

Patrick


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Re: kde, dual monitor, maximize windows to the current monitor

[Antonio Diaz]

  Sorry, now I configured my client not to post in html anymore.

  The xinerama option is off.  I have also been posting to the KDE
forum but I don't achieve to get it working. The point is that I haven't
changed anything of my "xorg" configuration file. I just upgraded my
system using the "safe-upgrade" option. So far, whenever I maximized a
window it just span to one monitor and it was great. Now, it seems to be
changed in KDE, because the xorg configuration file is exactly the same.
What's more, I installed XFCE4 to do some additional checks and it also
works fine there.

  I've read that it is necessary to get this behavior that the software
has been compiled using the xinerama flag. Do you know if the latest KDE
package has been compiled using this flag?


Emanoil Kotsev wrote:

Antonio Diaz wrote:
yes it's really odd to post in html

what you write sounds like you've xinerama enabled

check this 


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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Jeffrey Cao wrote:
> 
>> Boot into single user mode, and you are the root.
>> Then, you can change root password.
> 
> Says he, carefully snipping the admonition in the post he quoted about
> top posting. Priceless.

I don't actually think that he snipped it himself. My MUA snipps
signatures automagically.

Cheers,
Johannes


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Re: default kernel of 5.0 distribution

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Angelin Lalev wrote:
> How do I get (easy) the version of the kernel. It seems that the
> difference between both versions is not shown in
> 
> uname -a

Because they do have the same version. There are just some security
fixes backported to that version. To see which _package_ version is
installed on your system do

$ aptitude show ~ilinux-image

and look at the lines starting with 'Version'.

Cheers,
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Why is MythTV not in Debian?

[Paul van der Vlis]

Hello,

Why is MythTV only in debian-multimedia? It has a GPL license.

What is good way to find out why a package is not in Debian main?
I already searched debian-legal.

With regards,
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Re: kde, dual monitor, maximize windows to the current monitor

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Antonio Diaz wrote:
yes it's really odd to post in html

what you write sounds like you've xinerama enabled

check this 

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Re: Music Player With Variable Speed

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Mitja Podreka wrote:

> Hal Vaughan wrote:
>> Any suggestions or comments on easy of use on different playback
>> programs?  (Many of us have suggest Amarok make a plugin to do this,
>> but they don't want to do it, even though they've been told it would
>> likely be much more widely used than they think.)
> When searching for DJ software (for a friend I migrated to Linux) came
> across this three packages:

the most simple one is alsaplayer

sudo apt-get install alsaplayer-alsa

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Re: External USB HD showing up late in /dev

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Davide Mancusi wrote:

> Hi .*,
> 
> I have an external USB hard disk that I use for automated
> backups. I have written the following udev rules:
>   SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{serial}=="574341535530323537353839",
>   KERNEL=="sd?", SYMLINK+="exthd", GROUP="plugdev" SUBSYSTEMS=="usb",
>   ATTRS{serial}=="574341535530323537353839", KERNEL=="sd?1",
>   SYMLINK+="exthd1", GROUP="plugdev"
> to create symlinks to the right device and partition, and I have a
> fstab entry:
>   /dev/exthd1/mnt/exthdext3user,auto,errors=remount-ro   0   2
> to mount the backup partition automatically at boot time.
> 
> The problem is that sometimes, when init calls
> fsck, /dev/exthd1 has not appeared yet, fsck bombs and init drops me to
> an emergency shell. This happens about 50% of the times. Then I use the
> emergency prompt to check if /dev/exthd1 actually exists, and, again,
> 50% of the times it doesn't; the /dev/sd?1 file is always there,
> though. When /dev/exthd1 doesn't exist, a "udevadm trigger" will bring
> it up.
> 
> This looks like some kind of race condition between kernel and
> udev, but I don't really understand why udev doesn't pick on the new
> devices automatically, as soon as the kernel creates them. I have tried
> to add WAIT_FOR="/dev/exthd1" to my udev rule, but it didn't help.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Davide
> 

Upto 2.6.26 I know there is a delay_use option for usb_storage.
It's set to 5sec by default. I didn't look for such an option in 2.6.28, but
as delay_use is doing nothing I assume it was either removed or replaced.

What you describe sounds like this default is working for you.

Are you using 2.6.26 or similar.

try adding following somehwere in your /etc/modprobe.d/ files

options usb-storage delay_use=0

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Re: snd-hda-intel Codec: IDT 92HD73E1X5 support in lenny

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Alex Samad wrote:

>> what does it mean in human language?
> 
> m-a is part of the package module-assist - it assist in building modules
> that are connected/rely upon the kernel source/headers.
> 
> apt-get install module-assist
> m-a update prepare
> m-a -t build alsa
> 
> this will produce a alsa.deb file in /usr/src
> 
> 

Alex, thanks for explaining. I've never heard something about m-a - I'm not
that debianized. I installed it and build dummy debian packages just to
satisfy the package dependencies.

I can hear sound now. Thanks to your help and the help of the developers!

What I did is try the different switches and plug the jack in different
outputs. So I finally found the perfect combination.

Actually there are 5 outputs: 3 for (front/surround/subwoofer) + 1 lineout +
1 headphones.

I was expecting to get something on lineout. it turned to be the front
output + Analog loopback 1 should be muted (I think exactly this kept me
from hearing anything)

Now the only problem I have is that I must set volume (all master/pcm/front)
to 100% to hear anything on my old maranz amplifier. I've tried with
different inputs on the amp and different cable. I also have to increase
the volume on the amplifier to 50% to hear that loud as it is normally (or
with other input sources) at about 10%.

I have had the same problem when connecting the 2nd monitor to my notebook.
>From the notebook without 2nd monitor it sounds great, but with 2nd monitor
attached it sounds like 10% from what was before.
I have experienced this with kernel 2.6.26 on the notebook and on this PC
I'm using 2.6.28.8.

Hardware engineers said it's hard to find out what exactly is the problem
(they should disamble everything and measure the voltage and power to find
out). They said new snd devices have different impedance (whatever it may
mean) so it's expected to set all volume to almost max.

I'm thinking that it could be also a bug in the hda-intel/-hdmi driver. As
when I don't compile snd-usb-audio it sounds great (this I've tried with
2.6.20/24/26)

So, since I'm having this notebook and jumped to 2.6.2+ I hear music in bad
quality on an excellent amplifier and boxes only because my notebook and pc
have intel sound cards - should I throw them away or buy an additional
soundcard, or may be an extra mixer (preamp), or install windows? It's
really odd!

Is it the manufacturers pushing us to upgrade to new hardware, or is it just
a software somehow bug related to intel and may be additional snd-usb ?

I'll be greatfull for any useful answers!

Thanks


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Re: VMware

[Justin The Cynical]

Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:53 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2009-03-20 21:43 +0100, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:

The older gcc 4.1.3 is not available in debian.snapshot.net .

But it is available from the Debian mirrors in the gcc-4.1 package:

,
| % LANG=C gcc-4.1 --version
| gcc-4.1 (GCC) 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)
...

Please install gcc-4.1 and retry.


Ahh - but I do have gcc-4.1 installed.


If you still have problems, you may need to set "CC=gcc-4.1" for the
vmware modules build.


Did that and it solved the problem.  Thanks (again! ;-) ) a lot!


For those who may not know why this worked...

~$ ls -l /usr/bin/gcc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2009-02-18 01:03 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.3

~$ ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  7 2009-02-18 01:03 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.3
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  90712 2008-10-25 02:38 /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 226568 2009-01-18 10:44 /usr/bin/gcc-4.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 239000 2009-01-02 03:16 /usr/bin/gcc-4.3

Lenny AMD64

As I understand it, specifying CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.1 forces the build 
environment to use the chosen version of GCC, ignoring the default of 
/usr/bin/gcc.


This got me as well when I was experimenting with VMWare Server/Client 
Tools and Lenny, still does on occasion.  *grin*


One other thing, the client tools for VM 2.0... One of the more 
important modules won't compile with the kernel shipped with Lenny 
(vsock = VM communication interface socket).  Search around (I don't 
recall the exact URL where I found it, I think it was on the Ubuntu 
forums) for vmware-config.pl.patch and vmware-config-tools.pl.patch, you 
will need them to get that module compiled.  The VM will run without it, 
but it won't run as well.


And if you find a better way to access the server under Linux that that 
$%#$^%! web UI crap, please let me know!!!



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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Lisi Reisz]

On Saturday 21 March 2009 10:21:24 Thorny wrote:
> If I remember correctly, Sarge security support ends at the end
> of March, this year.

They announced that it had ended last year.  As I understand it, they took the 
repositories down this year and archived them.

Lisi


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Re: SOLVED Re: Lenny won't install on an old Pentium that used to run Etch. Try 2

[Thorny]

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:30:07 -0600, Robert Hodgins posted:

> On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 14:13 -0600, Robert Hodgins wrote:
>> Thank you to everyone who has offered suggestions. I'll keep fiddling
>> around with this computer. If something works, I'll let you know.
>> 
>> 
> Turns out the problem was likely hardware related. Over the weekend, I
> had noticed that SBM wasn't detecting the DVD/CD player all the time.
> Yesterday, the hard drive was undetectable. Given that both units
> function on other machines, I believe that the computer's drive
> controller was slowly dying while I was working with it and ultimately
> gave up the ghost Monday.
> 
> Thanks again to everyone who helped me with this.

Thanks to you for getting back to us.

Discussing this has inspired me to put another line on my hobby list, I
will eventually drag out an old P1 100MHz I have and try loading Lenny on
it. Or, maybe I shouldn't thank you for that, it's not like I don't
already have enough projects. 


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Re: Technical Inquiry

[Thorny]

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:17:28 -0700, hadi motamedi posted:

> Dear All
> Can you please do me favor and provide me with the answer for the
> following case at hand :
> "We have one HP t5725 server with Debian Linux 3.1 installed but the
> operator is getting the following message on the console port when trying
> to boot the server :
> "Unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually . give root password for
> maintenance or type ctrl-D to continue" Unfortunately, he has forgottten
> for the root password and pressing ctrl-D will just reboot the server to
> the above message again. Please let me know how we can overcome.
> Let me thank you in advance for your time and attention in the matter

With all the discussion going on about how to get in, no one seems to have
mentioned that you might want to consider upgrading from that Sarge
install. If I remember correctly, Sarge security support ends at the end
of March, this year.


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Re: Help! Grub is broken

[Thorny]

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:57:50 +0800, 明覺 posted:

> you are right,  it should not be a viruses, maybe it's because my harddisk
> is broken, how to check my harddisk? now I have installed a new system on
> it and it is working fine now, but I'm afraid it will be broken suddenly
> again after a few days, so I should know clear about the situation of my
> harddisk. is there any tool to check the health of my harddisk? thank you.
> 

Did you check it for badblocks?




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Re: Help! Grub is broken

[Thorny]

On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:09:13 +, Avi Greenbury posted:

>> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus#Threats

Good grief, since when has wikipedia become the ultimate resource. Do you
notice how many of the references are to anti-virus labs, who have a
vested interest in selling software?

Naturally any of this is opinion on both sides. It isn't really possible
for me to give data that shows something doesn't exist. And, you have
no reason to believe me or anyone else but will you please review this
article by Rick Moen, he makes a cogent argument.

http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus

If after reviewing it you still think you are correct, aside from possible
semantic differences about the definition of virus, cone back and I
suppose we can try to discuss further or agree to disagree. Otherwise, I
ask that people please stop stating that there are linux virus in the wild
in a thread that involves inexperienced users. The only people who have an
interest in the FUD are those who stand to profit by selling software for
Linux virus catching and removal and I am not accusing you of that. (Note
I didn't say not to run a virus checker on a mail server in a network with
Windows clients, our issue is with Linux virus.)

You will note that Rick's page is current, last modified 2009-02-16.
Naturally, current doesn't signify correctness but, in my opinion, it is
better than the page poster Celejar suggested which is from 2000 and I
don't remember any spread of "Bliss" since that time. 

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Re: VirtualBox on lenny

[Andrei Popescu]

On Tue,24.Feb.09, 06:12:14, Micha Feigin wrote:
 
> I tried installing that but for some reason after running windows in a box
> (which seems to be running rather nicely in initial tests) the color settings
> are messed up. Opening lyx for example, it runs using 4 colors and a messed up
> pallet. opening windows again makes it run with weird colors when in focus and
> correct colors when not in focus.

I know this is one month old, but, just in case you didn't figure it 
out, did you install the Guest Additions?

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Re: default kernel of 5.0 distribution

[Angelin Lalev]

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Angelin Lalev  wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Sven Joachim  wrote:
>> On 2009-03-21 10:02 +0100, Angelin Lalev wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, shouldn't the compilation date of default debian kernel be the
>>> same on all debian installations.
>>
>> Only if you use the same architecture and distribution.
>>
>>> I have machine which says 10 Jan 2009 and I have a machine which says 13 
>>> Mar.
>>> The both machines are P4 with 686 kernels.
>>
>> Looks like the one with the older kernel does not have security updates
>> enabled, or you have not rebooted since the kernel update.
>>
>> How do the respective /etc/apt/sources.list files look?
>>
>> Sven
>>
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> You are right. Yesterday, I performed manual update on my home server via
>
> aptitude update
> aptitude upgrade
>
> and haven't payed attention.
> As I was reading the reply to my message today, synaptic kicked in and
> downloaded list of updates, including the new kernel.
>

How do I get (easy) the version of the kernel. It seems that the
difference between both versions is not shown in

uname -a


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Re: default kernel of 5.0 distribution

[Angelin Lalev]

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> On 2009-03-21 10:02 +0100, Angelin Lalev wrote:
>
>> Hi, shouldn't the compilation date of default debian kernel be the
>> same on all debian installations.
>
> Only if you use the same architecture and distribution.
>
>> I have machine which says 10 Jan 2009 and I have a machine which says 13 Mar.
>> The both machines are P4 with 686 kernels.
>
> Looks like the one with the older kernel does not have security updates
> enabled, or you have not rebooted since the kernel update.
>
> How do the respective /etc/apt/sources.list files look?
>
> Sven
>
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You are right. Yesterday, I performed manual update on my home server via

aptitude update
aptitude upgrade

and haven't payed attention.
As I was reading the reply to my message today, synaptic kicked in and
downloaded list of updates, including the new kernel.


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Re: default kernel of 5.0 distribution

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-03-21 10:02 +0100, Angelin Lalev wrote:

> Hi, shouldn't the compilation date of default debian kernel be the
> same on all debian installations.

Only if you use the same architecture and distribution.

> I have machine which says 10 Jan 2009 and I have a machine which says 13 Mar.
> The both machines are P4 with 686 kernels.

Looks like the one with the older kernel does not have security updates
enabled, or you have not rebooted since the kernel update.

How do the respective /etc/apt/sources.list files look?

Sven


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default kernel of 5.0 distribution

[Angelin Lalev]

Hi, shouldn't the compilation date of default debian kernel be the
same on all debian installations.

I have machine which says 10 Jan 2009 and I have a machine which says 13 Mar.
The both machines are P4 with 686 kernels.


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Re: Lenny + Dell PE 2970 [solved]

[M. Lewis]

M. Lewis wrote:



Mark Goldshtein wrote:

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:40 PM, M. Lewis  wrote:

Thorny wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:58:32 -0500, M. Lewis posted:


I'm trying to install Lenny on a Dell Power Edge 2970 with little
success.
The problem I'm running into is installing grub. My .iso images check
with
md5sum correctly. With three different DVDs, I get the error:

Unable to install grub in (hd0)
Executing 'grub-install (hd0)' failed This is a fatal error.

[...]

Lets have a look at your /boot/grub/device.map


I didn't look at that, but now when I try to mount /dev/sda1 it's
telling me it is an invalid filesystem. Fdisk shows nothing now.

This gets more frustrating as it goes along.


Hey, man! Think positively :)
We are thinking about you!
It is Friday, have a beer :)

Maybe you should look for that partitioning utility on vendor web site?
Maybe the HDD should be pre-partitioned with that util before any OS
installation?



I've had several beers dealing with this thing already. A few more 
sounds good.


I'll try that Mark. Stranger things have happened.

Thanks,
Mike


It was defiantly the brewskis that did the trick. Lenny is finally 
installed along with GRUB.


In preparation to get the /boot/grub/device.map I could not mount the 
HD. I did an fdisk -l and didn't see anything abnormal. I started fdisk, 
and then I saw something different. I didn't document the exact message 
as I didn't know at the time that would be the cure. The message was 
something along the lines the drive could not be read as it did not have 
a valid partition table that fdisk recognized. I continued in fdisk and 
did 'o   create a new empty DOS partition table', wrote the changes and 
exited fdisk.


After this, I tried an amd64 netinst CD (previously I was using DVD #1).

The installation went as you would expect, including GRUB. No issues at all.

The only thing I can figure, is somehow the 'utility' partition that 
Dell had put on the HD made the HD partially inaccessible to the Debian 
Installer. Maybe it had some strange partition table, hidden or 
something. Again, I don't know for certain this was the case, but that 
is the only thing I did differently other than using the netinst which 
*shouldn't* have made any difference.


Thanks to all for your help. Hopefully if someone else runs into this, 
this might help them.


Thanks,
Mike

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